(Idea) Standing my ground for 2nd Amendment

[TAW122]

I had an idea just recently: When I obtain a firearm (hopefully this month or before the end of 2018) if people around me give me shit/hell for it, perhaps I could defend my reasoning by using lines such as it's my constitutional right and this isn't something up for negotiating; I haven't done anything illegal or things that will prohibit me from owning a firearm, therefore I am entitled to own one; I'm standing up for my rights and I want to enjoy my freedom as well as recreation (target shooting and what not).

Sure, it's possible that I may lose friends and acquaintances, but those people wouldn't be real friends or people I'd want to be around anyways -- at least that's what I tell myself). However, I feel like I'm in a unique position here as I'm Asian American and AA's are the smallest minority group in the US (barring Native Americans), and most of the AA groups are generally anti-gun.

I'm mainly trying to distract and divert people's focus away from my mental health and stuff so that way I can discreetly ctb at my leisure. Also, if in the event that I consider recovery (not likely as of now), then I would have potential to advocate for gun rights as an AA minority. With that said, does anyone think this may be a good idea?

 

[weedoge]

Yeah... just adopt the attitude of other americans who think their strongest right is the one to carry a firearm! I sound sarcastic but I really mean it, need to fit in with the very people who might question you and then there'll be no issues. Good luck.

 

[TAW122]

Thanks, I just wanted to mainly get people IRL to fuck off of my business, though if I manage to also push for the rights of fellow citizens while I'm at it, then that's great, but mainly just want to buy myself some space and time.

 

[The Blackangel]

Don't be cocky about it when you go to get one. Be polite and professional. Also get one from a pawn shop. Don't go to a "dealer". They will charge you ten times what the gun is worth. Since you're not white you'll need to do some recon. Go to different shops and look over their guns, but while doing that take note of any looks or attitudes you get. If they act racist, they'll find fault in your paperwork to buy one even if there isn't any, just so they can deny you. Also don't settle. Don't get something just because it's $100. Get a quality brand, and a quality piece. You may have to put it on layaway (I did that for several), but you'll have your weapon soon.

 

[TAW122]

I have a question (just in case): If I do get denied, should I just move on with the denial (whether it's NICS or not) or appeal it? What about going to the media to try to paint myself as a victim of discrimination and being deprived of my constitutional rights (Note: I will NEVER mention anything about SS, but would say that I wanted to exercise my rights as an US citizen as well as get into the sport of firearms)? I don't live in an urban city, but I live in a small city with some rural areas around it. I'm in NC btw and while I haven't personally encountered overt racism, it does exist around me.

I will hope and assume that I will be able to obtain the firearm without any incident or hassle. Also, the firearm that I'm looking at is under $200, which is a Mossberg Maverick 88 12 Gauge shotgun. I will likely order it online (unless the firearm is already there at the store) and with a transfer fee to the pawn shop it will cost an additional $25-$30 depending on which pawn shop it is.

 

[Rose]

I have a question (just in case): If I do get denied, should I just move on with the denial (whether it's NICS or not) or appeal it? What about going to the media to try to paint myself as a victim of discrimination and being deprived of my constitutional rights (Note: I will NEVER mention anything about SS, but would say that I wanted to exercise my rights as an US citizen as well as get into the sport of firearms)?

Not sure about dealing with denial, but I would avoid going to the media about this. Given your potential end goal, it could introduce unnecessary risk by putting eyes on you. Especially with the internet, and lots of people enjoying prying into anyone's life they can.
Especially if you're for gun rights, using it as a method for CTB after making a big deal with the media might give people more of an argument against said rights down the road, since (sadly) the majority of people are against right-to-die as well.

One thing about denial is (depending on how it works, I have done no research whatsoever on gun processes) I'd always try to look at other options (vendors, pawn shops, etc.) after that first if possible, unless it's something easily fixed or you can't find anything else. If they're pulling reasons out of their asses, they're sure as hell to be stubborn about it. These people will not fight fair. Never tried with guns, but I've experienced & seen this many, many times with other issues.

Wishing you luck!

 

[TAW122]

Thanks, and I will be buying a firearm through the Internet and then transferring it to a FFL since it is cheaper than just outright buying from an FFL and also there isn't a guarantee that the specific firearm is in stock. I'd rather not cold call every gunshop to make sure they have what I want. I would however, need to pay a transfer fee so it does add to the cost, but it's still cheaper than the inflated price. I do recall that if there is a denial, then unless the shop holds the gun until the issue is resolved, I'd end up losing more money than I spent because the shop would have to ship it back to the place where I order it (shipping cost), and then I only get refunded what I paid for the firearm itself minus any processing fee and excluding the transfer fee.

Regarding the media, well it looks like I can't get any popular support given my end goal (which is CTB), which gives me very limited options should I run into a denial. The chance is very very low, but I have heard (rare but possible) cases where people with completely clean records (no felonies, DV charges, drug charges, not a fugitive from justice, not involuntarily committed/adjudged mentally incompetent, etc.) get denied due to a glitch or database error in the NICS background check. Appealing it and what not is too time consuming and costly, more likely more than the cost of the firearm itself. Do you know what recourse I have should that happen, since I don't have anyone to fall back to? I don't want to end up like this guy on reddit.

I know I'm overthinking and probably overanalyzing, but I'm the kind of person that doesn't like to leave things to chance and want to cover all my bases sufficiently.

 

[The Blackangel]

Rifles are not hard to get, and sometimes don't even require a background check. It just depends on the state. If they ask just say you're wanting to do some hunting. But check what's in season for the type of gun you're getting so they don't get suspicious. If there's nothing in season just say some kind of big game such as turkey or deer for next season.