Idea for suicide ambivalence syndrome

[Disappointered]

I believe most people who are often suicidal are stuck in a syndrome of ambivalence that prevents them from resolving their unresolvable problems with suicide. Even if you rationally know that you have little to live for or even if you genuinely feel like dying, the fear of the unknown combined with innate survival instincts and immature hope simultaneously exist to create hesitation thereby prolonging your misery. I thought of a potential solution to the problem that I don't recommend but that I thought, for entertainment and discussion purposes, I would share on this forum. Apologies if this or a very similar idea has already been discussed in another thread.

Imagine if you could obtain a poisoned jelly bean with a perfect poison that is quick and painless. I read somewhere that after coming close to death many people suddenly experience euphoria or new appreciation for life and I believe that this was stated as a motivation for author Graham Greene to have attempted suicide once by playing Russian roulette. Now getting back to the jelly bean, it would be easier to create a jelly bean roulette with a giant bowl of jelly beans that than to play actual Russian roulette with a gun. So what about, if said jelly bean could be created and obtained, creating a giant bowl of jelly bean roulette that one could play every day. Pick a jelly bean from a bowl of beans that contains one poison bean. If you live you might find the rest of your day goes better. If you don't then, considering you need to play this game in the first place, good riddance. Either way you win. And it's preferable to a revolver because it seems more fun and you could overcome fear and ambivalence (which might just be a product of the fear that, ironically, that keeps the suffering aka life going yet is itself part of the reason your life = suffering) more easily by minimizing the odds of landing on the bullet since the bowl of jelly beans could be as big as you want with just the one indiscernible poison pill among hundreds of regular beans. Would anyone here play the game? I think some people might think it's a lot of nonsense to avoid something and would rather just get a suicide kit. Besides, I don't know if a "perfect poison" exists and if it does whether it could ever be obtained, let alone legally. But sometimes I think that if I could create such a jelly bean that I'd probably do it. I'd have a pretty big bowl full of beans but I'd probably have it in front of me with my breakfast everyday.

 

[NeverGoodEnuff]

What an interesting scenario... I think I would play, if for no other reason than I like jelly beans. Btw, what kind of jelly beans? The exotic flavors? Yum.

 

[262653]

Thanks, that was very entertaining to read. I can imagine myself taking one jelly bean out of a big bowl, say, of thousand beans, with a relative ease. It does sound a lot like lifting weights with a gradual increase in equipment weight. (Chances get higher as you empty the bowl.) I wonder if a jelly bean eater would grow accustomed to an ever increasing danger?

 

[RealHumanBean]

Are we allowed to take handfuls?

 

[NeverGoodEnuff]

Omg. I was obese most of my adult life. Snickers bars, queso and chips, pizza, and..jelly beans. I changed all that and lost the weight, 70 lbs. By not allowing those things. Still don't.

A bowl of jelly beans? Step away peeps. MINE!!!!

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

I'd want to play... but the idea of a fat boy like me limiting myself to one jellybean a day is pretty radical. I'd likely just eat them all in half an hour.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Sounds interesting, but the only way to truly be unable to tell which jellybean is the poison one is if you either a) don't know what the original poison one looked like or b) made sure that every jellybean is exactly identical which could be difficult depending on the color and pattern of the original poisoned bean. I imagine that on days where I feel good I would also avoid it for sure.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I'd want to play... but the idea of a fat boy like me limiting myself to one jellybean a day is pretty radical. I'd likely just eat them all in half an hour.

This reminds me of one of my favorite memes.

Spoiler

 

[Mixo]

I wonder if this would strengthen or weak survival instinct. Knowing the fatass I am, I'd probably just stop paying attention to the fact that one of the beans could kill me and just become desensitized after enjoying so many.

 

[262653]

I wonder if this would strengthen or weak survival instinct. Knowing the fatass I am, I'd probably just stop paying attention to the fact that one of the beans could kill me and just become desensitized after enjoying so many.

Yeah, me wonders too. With the pressure of SI dissolving across the time, to the point where it can be contested. Think about Speed x Mass = Force. It would be easier to stop something that is lighter or moves at a lower velocity.

 

[Disappointered]

Just rereading my original post I realize I should have written it out better but I'm glad people suffered through the long sentences and got the gist of the idea.

Re increased chances with each bean eaten, I think I'd automatically throw in a new bean every time I eat one to ensure the odds remain the same. Also, the poison jelly bean would indeed, as Dr Iron Arc points out, need to be indistinguishable from the regular beans but I think it is conceivable to find a poison that could be added as clear coating and doesn't leave the lucky bean with any telltale visual signs of having been tampered with. Then you just shuffle the beans in the jar and let family members place bets on how many days on the calendar you'll live to see. Although, I probably would tell them I'm doing that.

Just have to make sure no one gets into your Special Bowl of jelly beans...imagine the mixed emotions of guilt and jealousy should someone other than you accidentally land on the lucky bean!
And yeah, I guess jelly beans could also complicate things if your suicidal depression leads you to stuff candy into your mouth as it often does in my case. Maybe it would work better with bland tasting breath mints. But on the other hand, if you do end up stuffing your face the odds just went up that much that you ate the lucky bean so...high five, right?

 

[Ghost2211]

Adding a new non poison bean each day a good bean is eaten is a great idea to prevent anxiety as the number of beans decreases. With my luck I would be staring at a bowl with only two beans left, and then the next day there would be the last poison bean trolling me.

 

[HadEnough1974]

I believe most people who are often suicidal are stuck in a syndrome of ambivalence that prevents them from resolving their unresolvable problems with suicide. Even if you rationally know that you have little to live for or even if you genuinely feel like dying, the fear of the unknown combined with innate survival instincts and immature hope simultaneously exist to create hesitation thereby prolonging your misery. I thought of a potential solution to the problem that I don't recommend but that I thought, for entertainment and discussion purposes, I would share on this forum. Apologies if this or a very similar idea has already been discussed in another thread.

Imagine if you could obtain a poisoned jelly bean with a perfect poison that is quick and painless. I read somewhere that after coming close to death many people suddenly experience euphoria or new appreciation for life and I believe that this was stated as a motivation for author Graham Greene to have attempted suicide once by playing Russian roulette. Now getting back to the jelly bean, it would be easier to create a jelly bean roulette with a giant bowl of jelly beans that than to play actual Russian roulette with a gun. So what about, if said jelly bean could be created and obtained, creating a giant bowl of jelly bean roulette that one could play every day. Pick a jelly bean from a bowl of beans that contains one poison bean. If you live you might find the rest of your day goes better. If you don't then, considering you need to play this game in the first place, good riddance. Either way you win. And it's preferable to a revolver because it seems more fun and you could overcome fear and ambivalence (which might just be a product of the fear that, ironically, that keeps the suffering aka life going yet is itself part of the reason your life = suffering) more easily by minimizing the odds of landing on the bullet since the bowl of jelly beans could be as big as you want with just the one indiscernible poison pill among hundreds of regular beans. Would anyone here play the game? I think some people might think it's a lot of nonsense to avoid something and would rather just get a suicide kit. Besides, I don't know if a "perfect poison" exists and if it does whether it could ever be obtained, let alone legally. But sometimes I think that if I could create such a jelly bean that I'd probably do it. I'd have a pretty big bowl full of beans but I'd probably have it in front of me with my breakfast everyday.

1 - Does the colour of the jelly beans matter?

2 - Can they all be one colour or do they need to be mixed colours?

3 - what if you're a white supremacist and you don't like your jelly beans mixing?

4 - How about gummy bears instead of jelly beans?

I try to be funny, emphasis on try...

 

[Disappointered]

1 - Does the colour of the jelly beans matter?

2 - Can they all be one colour or do they need to be mixed colours?

3 - what if you're a white supremacist and you don't like your jelly beans mixing?

4 - How about gummy bears instead of jelly beans?

I try to be funny, emphasis on try...

1. Hey now, don't be racist!

2. Well, since the Kalergi Plan is partly to blame for the increase in mental illness that may lead to the giant bowl to begin with, perhaps it's only fitting that they be mixed colours.

3. If you're a white supremacist and have OCD this could be a problem...maybe create a segregated autonomous bowl for each colour of bean.

4. Gummy bears could also work, especially if they're winking and holding up a little gummy fist with a tiny thumbs up as if to say "Go for it!".

 

[Lady_Loveless]

If this ever becomes a thing sign me up!

 

[Disappointered]

Has anyone ever thought of creating an intentional community for suicidal people? At least we wouldn't have to worry about how to generate productivity or income since our membership would shrink to zero in little to no time.

 

[Lordsudbury]

I'd eat the whole bowl

 

[FatalSystemError591]

I would. I think it would be a great way to die without worrying about an obvious method.

 

[decafcoffee]

What an interesting scenario... I think I would play, if for no other reason than I like jelly beans. Btw, what kind of jelly beans? The exotic flavors? Yum.

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