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redisblue

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"cut me clean, till i can't think anymore."
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Last week, I was considering ctb with ibuprofen, but after lots of research, I was unsure whether or not it would work. I can't seem to find a straight answer to any of my questions, so I may as well ask here.

Can ibuprofen even kill you?
If so, how much?
Is it painful?
How quick is it?
Will there be any damage if I survive?

By the way, I'm not planning to do this with SN. I don't know any painless, easy and quick methods, so if this isn't any good, can anybody give me some suggestions?
 
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I dunno about Ibuprofen, I know you can with Paracetamol but I'd never recommend that. You'll experience up to 2 weeks of extreme pain then you pass away due to liver failure. I imagine Ibuprofen would be similar if not the same.

Sadly almost if not all painless methods are not easy to obtain/perform so I can't give you any recommendations atm sorry. I've been trying myself for the past month now with no success.
 
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Ibuprofen is an unreliable method and horrible to the body. You're far more likely to end up with organ damage than ctb. How old are you, by the way?
 
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redisblue

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"cut me clean, till i can't think anymore."
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I dunno about Ibuprofen, I know you can with Paracetamol but I'd never recommend that. You'll experience up to 2 weeks of extreme pain then you pass away due to liver failure. I imagine Ibuprofen would be similar if not the same.

Sadly almost if not all painless methods are not easy to obtain/perform so I can't give you any recommendations atm sorry. I've been trying myself for the past month now with no success.
Ohh okay :( Thank you anyways :)
Ibuprofen is an unreliable method and horrible to the body. You're far more likely to end up with organ damage than ctb. How old are you, by the way?
Oh shit okay- thank you :(
Also I'm 19
 
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notwhereIbelong

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Feb 12, 2023
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I knew a couple people who tried to CTB with ibuprofen and other OTC medications; it just sent them to a psych ward, so not the best method
Prob why they sell them OTC, doubt they would if they were a reliable method of suicide
 
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Ohh okay :( Thank you anyways :)

Oh shit okay- thank you :(
Also I'm 19
You're very young. Try to push through as much of your 20s as you can. I understand the pain might feel unbearable and that's very real for you, but for some people simply going through their adulthood is enough to heal. A lot changes in your 20s. Just speaking as a lifelong suicidal person who's approaching 30.
 
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I knew a couple people who tried to CTB with ibuprofen and other OTC medications; it just sent them to a psych ward, so not the best method
Prob why they sell them OTC, doubt they would if they were a reliable method of suicide
Very true, nothing OTC is reliable to CTB with.
 
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You're very young. Try to push through as much of your 20s as you can. I understand the pain might feel unbearable and that's very real for you, but for some people simply going through their adulthood is enough to heal. A lot changes in your 20s. Just speaking as a lifelong suicidal person who's approaching 30.
Thank you, I really appreciate that :)
 
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Find a different method. OTC painkillers such as paracetamol and ibuprofen are very difficult to ctb with. They cause organ damage, and it is painful and slow. This might be a good post to do some research on- there are a few pro-lifers in there, but some good information to find nonetheless.
 
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You're very young. Try to push through as much of your 20s as you can. I understand the pain might feel unbearable and that's very real for you, but for some people simply going through their adulthood is enough to heal. A lot changes in your 20s. Just speaking as a lifelong suicidal person who's approaching 30.
I second this! Your 20s can be the best time of your life, give it a chance ❤️ definitely don't do ibuprofen, not a nice way to go. But try and fix things in your life one at a time. Dying isn't easy, sometimes it's better and easier to put the effort into living! I'm sure you have people who will miss you dearly. We'll miss you!
 
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redisblue

"cut me clean, till i can't think anymore."
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I second this! Your 20s can be the best time of your life, give it a chance ❤️ definitely don't do ibuprofen, not a nice way to go. But try and fix things in your life one at a time. Dying isn't easy, sometimes it's better and easier to put the effort into living! I'm sure you have people who will miss you dearly. We'll miss you!
Thank you! You're all so sweet :heart:;-;
 
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nozomu

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Thank you, I really appreciate that :)
We are here for you! Really mean that. Talk with us about your feelings any time, and stick with us as long as you can!
 
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redisblue

redisblue

"cut me clean, till i can't think anymore."
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We are here for you! Really mean that. Talk with us about your feelings any time, and stick with us as long as you can!
Aaah thank you, that means a lot to me! Really glad I joined this place, you're all so lovely :,)
 
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Ramy

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sorry it doesn't work
 
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Other people already answered you, but I want to add on to what they said.

*Any* drug can kill you, if it can't kill you then it's not a drug. However, overdosing with any over the counter drug will be very hard to successfully pull off and will also be very costly. Naturally, the problem with overdosing is largely not the cost however but the 'lethal dose', all drugs (or all drugs I can think of at least) have a very huge difference in their dosage. In other words, if you have a wide difference between a low dose and a lethal dose, you have to take a huge amount before you reach the lethal dose. Again, any drug can kill you however, every drug has a basic dosage, an intoxicating dosage, and a lethal dosage.



Generally for all methods of overdosing you want to take the pills equal to your body weight. Like if you weight 60 kg you should take 600 pills, but this is only a guideline, some say you should take double the dose like instead of 600 maybe try 800. I should also note this is based off old info, drugs are getting less and less toxic nowadays, so they're harder to die from and this should be taken into account when thinking about the lethal dosage.



Also, yes, overdosing on ibuprofen will be very painful. I can't say more than that, it'll just be painful. I can't say I recommend it. If you survive you can suffer from very bad organ damage as well which could fuck you over for life and make you go into debt if you need surgery for it which transplants are generally very expensive
 
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Shadowlord900

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I'd also like to add that the result in overdosing on most drugs will likely be due to liver failure (I know this can happen with paracetamol overdose). Death by liver failure is incredibly painful and lasts for roughly 2 weeks before you finally pass away.
 
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AboutBlank

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It is really, really hard to OD on Ibuprofen end even then whats most likely is that youre just gonna have horrible heartburn
 
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This is from the ASHWiki. NSAID is short for Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs, which are drugs with analgetic, antipyretic and anti-inflammatory properties. Well-known members of this class of drugs are aspirin, acetaminophen (i.e. paracetamol) and Ibuprofen. All of these drugs are completely out of the question as far as achieving a peaceful death is concerned. The interactions of these drugs with the body are complicated, and if they cause death at all, it can take weeks or even months for that to happen.
Particularly acetaminophen is bad, because it kills the liver - but slowly, causing patients to suffer agonising pain for several months before they finally do die of liver failure.
 
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twitchymouse

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Feb 19, 2023
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chances are you 1) wont die and 2) will be in excruciating pain
 
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redisblue

"cut me clean, till i can't think anymore."
Feb 12, 2023
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Thank you all for the information and advice on this! I really appreciate it; it's safe to say that my method of ctb will not be ibuprofen or anything of the sort.
 
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umbra_

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I'd also like to add that the result in overdosing on most drugs will likely be due to liver failure (I know this can happen with paracetamol overdose). Death by liver failure is incredibly painful and lasts for roughly 2 weeks before you finally pass away.

Quoting to add my own experience -- Liver failure and chronic liver illness due to two attempts in my past with acetaminophen. I would have died more quickly than weeks, but I was saved, stomach pumped, loaded with fluids and antiemetic, and had surgery on part of my liver to save my life.

It's an incredibly unpleasant way to go. I was in and out of consciousness for hours before I was found and paramedics called. I was intermittently and violently vomiting a clear green-blue water-like substance that after some research is due to the reaction of acetaminophen in the stomach acid. My ears were ringing louder than any coherent thought, and never fully went away. My heart was racing, hovering between 100-160 while lying down. It also caused incredible abdominal pain, headache for DAYS after that you can't take pain medication for, for obvious reasons. I was jaundiced. My heart did almost stop.

I ended up with weeks of painful recovery, a surgical scar, chronic ears ringing/tinnitus, and a sensitivity to acetaminophen due to my weakened liver.
 
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I ended up with weeks of painful recovery, a surgical scar, chronic ears ringing/tinnitus, and a sensitivity to acetaminophen due to my weakened liver.
I'm so sorry... Sending hugs and love :((
 
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Ohh okay :( Thank you anyways :)

Oh shit okay- thank you :(
Also I'm 19
Don't try it, with any OTC, especially Ibufrofen or Tylenol. It will be a miserable, extremely two-week long ordeal, with horrible pain. And it won't kill you. Just give you liver and stomach damage.
Thank you all for the information and advice on this! I really appreciate it; it's safe to say that my method of ctb will not be ibuprofen or anything of the sort.
Good for you! I do wish you'd spend some more time, living your life, and possibly reconsidering it. Things could may well get better. In the meantime, no OTCs.
I'm so sorry... Sending hugs and love :((
My brother, who is six years older than me, had a friend who overdosed on 600 aspirins. In Junior High School! He thought that would do the trick. It most certainly did not do the trick. It made him sick as fuck, though. He turned out to be a great guy, though. I was still in elementary school at the time, and there was an assembly called, about this kid. This was in the 70s. But he was in the hospital for weeks. His heart went nuts, and we all went outside for recess, with Coach Marco. Crying our eyes out. Coach Marco gave us an extra 30 minutes to run that shit off.
 
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"cut me clean, till i can't think anymore."
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Good for you! I do wish you'd spend some more time, living your life, and possibly reconsidering it. Things could may well get better. In the meantime, no OTCs.

My brother, who is six years older than me, had a friend who overdosed on 600 aspirins. In Junior High School! He thought that would do the trick. It most certainly did not do the trick. It made him sick as fuck, though. He turned out to be a great guy, though. I was still in elementary school at the time, and there was an assembly called, about this kid. This was in the 70s. But he was in the hospital for weeks. His heart went nuts, and we all went outside for recess, with Coach Marco. Crying our eyes out. Coach Marco gave us an extra 30 minutes to run that shit off.
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to use any OTCs, it sounds painful and like it doesn't work - I want a peaceful death, one that works too! Also, thank you for the advice and information! I also wish I would spend more time living my life, I'm just stuck in a depressive episode and have been for so long, I know I'm young but I don't know what else to do. I'm trying really hard though, I can promise you that :( I hope that your brother's friend is doing okay now, that sounds really traumatic...
 
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Next-to-Nil

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OBLIGATORY "I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFFESSIONAL", BUT;
If it's abused and taken in large quantities over a short period of time it can cause water build up in the brain or swelling of the brain, potentially leading to death. Ibuprofen is similar to Asprin or antisialic acid (ASA) in that 5 times the dosage at one time is medically threatening. You may experience nausea, returning headaches (yes excessive headache medicine can bring on headaches much worse), increased threat of brain hemmorage or stroke. So short answer; yes, it MAY kill you, but it's pretty much a coin toss and it's gonne be a horrible time.
 
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lessthanperfect

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Hey, same question but a little more specific.

If I'm okay with pain and time and have a large supply of ibuprofen (for chronic migraines), does anyone know how much it would take?

Female, 140lbs (64kg), 5'7" (170cm) if that matters. If I could figure out the lethal dose, I'd probably take 5x or 10x that to ensure it works.

Google says 40,704mg (like 200 200mg pills; less than half of a medium bottle (500 200mg pills)) is the lethal dose for someone my weight. Can anyone corroborate or disagree with this value?

This isn't my top choice (a gun, N, nitrogen in an exit bag, or SN), but it would be nice to have an accessible backup plan regardless of how excruciatingly painful it might be.

And good luck OP with whatever method you choose to use when the time comes.


[I once tried with 8,000mg of Tylenol (acetaminophen; 40 200mg pills). My stomach (liver) felt odd for a few hours but not in pain. After that, one day, in a panic where I wasn't thinking straight, I tried with 2,000mg of Ibuprofen (10 200mg pills) and nothing happened, which would sort of make sense if the lethal dose is 20x that much. I do agree that it was stupid and that I shouldn't have been able to die when I wasn't prepared, so I'm mildly thankful, but I do sort of wish I had died then since my life has only gotten worse. At that point, I was much younger than I am now and didn't think to research what the lethal dose would be before trying it and I definitely wouldn't have been prepared to deal with the pain of acute liver failure, etc., but now I would be. I don't know if any of this matters at all but I felt like sharing more is better than sharing less so sorry if I rambled about stuff that isn't relevant.]

Edit: Also, sorry if this is a stupid question, do any other pain medications (Tylenol, etc.) help with pain med overdose? I think I would still do it without that possibility but as much information as possible is good.
 
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