I will never understand how people with extremely stressful jobs like surgeons can cope with the pressure

[noname223]

I am quite vulnerable and fragile. Sometimes making decision even minor ones can be a big problem for me. The pressure I am doing to myself is insane.

I am stunned when I read what for example pilots or (brain) surgeons have to challenge.

I mean one mistake as a brain surgeon and you will be in prison for the next several years. Or at least you get sued. Having to deal with the guilt that someone died because of you. Or the person is now disabled forever.

When I was young I wanted to be a powerful politician. I collapsed at a very very early stage. Now I am overburdened even by regular, average jobs.

I am stunned how other people can cope with pressure. I think it can get even worse. Imagine being the surgeon of Kim-Jong Un in North Korea. And if you fail they probably torture you till you die in a very cruel way.

I have respect for such people. But usually they are paid very-well and are quite resilient.

 

[jodes2]

Yeah I can't even decide what to have for breakfast. Get stressed at the drop of a hat, literally

 

[Sakura94]

Some people enjoy pressure, it makes them feel more alive. I do too a little bit. Maybe living in moment with intense thought and concentration means they do not dwell on the worst elements of life more.

 

[Littlewittlelight]

I am quite vulnerable and fragile. Sometimes making decision even minor ones can be a big problem for me. The pressure I am doing to myself is insane.

I am stunned when I read what for example pilots or (brain) surgeons have to challenge.

I mean one mistake as a brain surgeon and you will be in prison for the next several years. Or at least you get sued. Having to deal with the guilt that someone died because of you. Or the person is now disabled forever.

When I was young I wanted to be a powerful politician. I collapsed at a very very early stage. Now I am overburdened even by regular, average jobs.

I am stunned how other people can cope with pressure. I think it can get even worse. Imagine being the surgeon of Kim-Jong Un in North Korea. And if you fail they probably torture you till you die in a very cruel way.

I have respect for such people. But usually they are paid very-well and are quite resilient.

I think human brain is wired differently they don't get fed shit for their life tbh not making an excuse but if someone is successful or normal then they would have had normal life and they would be normal because they didn't even see shit or had to deal with it I wouldn't agree all of our problems are as bad and everyone goes through the same thing not everyone is a surgeon clearly but who are I kinda have seen or read about them so I think it seems from the childhood and they overlook things sometimes for good they don't just keep thinking about cbt I think we are blessed in this sense we are the new thinkers. The advanced machines in the end what matters? cbt or dead by daylight? I think I kinda find myself have this question cus I have seen those people just do things in a sequence they aren't superhumans or are they maybe they got good intellect for sure and good skills which I would never deny but they just don't they go on living like how a normal human would according to psychologists but that's too far for me when I am thinking after doing something and not being able to do anything for some reason so already loosing our chances?

 

[Someone123]

Typically it's because they had a stable, caring home environment that allowed them to flourish- thesee things become routine. though it takes more time to develop these skills. A healthy home environment, in which kids are treated in a caring way on a daily basis, is like magic for human potential.

 

[Littlewittlelight]

Really true i said the same and they didn't grow up like freaks we aren't same man I wouldn't want to feel bad looking at surgeon they are also delusional maybe life is good but it's still an illusion what the fuck would they do if their partners or kids started racing up and down or ran away I can just think as long as it stays in control things are good and no human is a super human however strong they are once the breaking point is reached they would probably snap and when pain is greater than happiness that's when they would think more like anyone who is kinda getting depressed for real. Ups and downs are good I don't know who qualifies for this.

Typically it's bcause they had a stable, caring home environment that allowed them to flourish- thesee things become routine. though it takes more time to develop these skills. A healthy home environment, in which kids are treated in a caring way on a daily basis, is like magic for human potential.

 

[hungry_ghost]

A lot of doctors are emotionless, almost psychopathic in a way.

I don't mean the negative stereotypes of a psychopath like what we see on TV, but just a person who is more stoic to extreme situations or dealing with the human body.

A lot of people know how to practice "mind over matter" as well, and are naturally mentally tough.

 

[Obliviate]

As someone who wanted to become a doctor/surgeon and have been doing lots of research with medical malpractice and intense corruption/racism/sexism in the health care field.....it's disgusting........there are MANY horrible doctors/nurses out there that well are there just for the status and could care less about patients. My dream to become a doctor is crushed because just thinking about the abuse you have to endure in med school/residency makes me sick. There have been extreme cases of med students being belittled/degraded and no one can do anything about it/report it due to power imbalance. I am disgusted and knowing my luck these things WILL happen to me no doubt. It's sad because I honestly think I could have been a caring brilliant doctor but people have treated me so badly that I no longer want to help. I'll just gatekeep my brain to my self.

 

[CowsAreCool]

Surgeons usually have excellent malpractice insurance. They won't go to jail if they make an honest mistake.

I love the House MD episode where he talks about doctors being told "it's not your fault". His point was that to be a good doctor, you have to accept responsibility for what you do. It is your fault. But everyone makes mistakes

Stress and nerves is something you can disconnect yourself from. At least temporarily. I learned that when I was an athlete and when I was involved in marksmanship competitions. Being nervous will destroy your ability to shoot accurately. To overcome it, you have to essentially play a character, like an actor. Trick yourself into overcoming anxiety for a short period of time. It got to the point where I could psychologically control my heart rate in competitions. Mindfulness.

 

[Julgran]

I am quite vulnerable and fragile. Sometimes making decision even minor ones can be a big problem for me. The pressure I am doing to myself is insane.

I am stunned when I read what for example pilots or (brain) surgeons have to challenge.

I mean one mistake as a brain surgeon and you will be in prison for the next several years. Or at least you get sued. Having to deal with the guilt that someone died because of you. Or the person is now disabled forever.

When I was young I wanted to be a powerful politician. I collapsed at a very very early stage. Now I am overburdened even by regular, average jobs.

I am stunned how other people can cope with pressure. I think it can get even worse. Imagine being the surgeon of Kim-Jong Un in North Korea. And if you fail they probably torture you till you die in a very cruel way.

I have respect for such people. But usually they are paid very-well and are quite resilient.

Some people are simply driven by money, but when or if the pressure becomes too great, such people may break down, which gets us back to your description of said people.

 

[hamvil]

I used to be like that in a certain way. I would work 80 hours per week without even noticing. I would go to be with my laptop, fall asleep, then wake up in the middle of the night and start answering emails. I volunteered to all possible trips to be the face of the company in public events. I neglected friends, wifi, kids (making them I mean) on account of my job. I was sort of fuelled by adrenaline. It is funny how now I am not able to work more than a couple of hours per day, i am always tired and even catching a bus is a big travel for me. Karma is a bitch...

 

[Dead Ghost]

As someone who wanted to become a doctor/surgeon and have been doing lots of research with medical malpractice and intense corruption/racism/sexism in the health care field.....it's disgusting........there are MANY horrible doctors/nurses out there that well are there just for the status and could care less about patients. My dream to become a doctor is crushed because just thinking about the abuse you have to endure in med school/residency makes me sick. There have been extreme cases of med students being belittled/degraded and no one can do anything about it/report it due to power imbalance. I am disgusted and knowing my luck these things WILL happen to me no doubt. It's sad because I honestly think I could have been a caring brilliant doctor but people have treated me so badly that I no longer want to help. I'll just gatekeep my brain to my self.

And can't you try to study medicine somewhere else? where I live there are many faculties everywhere. Maybe you could move somewhere else that you know will generate more trust with the people around you.
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I no pots mirar d'estudiar medicina a un altre lloc? on jo visc hi han moltes facultats arreu. Potser podries traslladar-te a algún altre lloc que sapiguessis que et generarà més confiança amb la gent del teu entorn.

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I did not take into account the economic aspect, sorry if this is an impediment in your case.
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No he tingut en compte l'aspecte econòmic, perdò si això resulta un impediment en el teu cas.

 

[Obliviate]

And can't you try to study medicine somewhere else? where I live there are many faculties everywhere. Maybe you could move somewhere else that you know will generate more trust with the people around you.
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I no pots mirar d'estudiar medicina a un altre lloc? on jo visc hi han moltes facultats arreu. Potser podries traslladar-te a algún altre lloc que sapiguessis que et generarà més confiança amb la gent del teu entorn.

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I did not take into account the economic aspect, sorry if this is an impediment in your case.
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No he tingut en compte l'aspecte econòmic, perdò si això resulta un impediment en el teu cas.

Unfortunately, racism/sexism/abuse is getting worse and it is EVERYWHERE. You cant run from it. it is inevitable. Canada is the only country I can think of that is the most progressed and modern for equality and it still has a lot of flaws. And also yes I am poor soooo

 

[jane]

i wouldnt be suprised if these people who have high stress jobs have addiction or mental health issues after a while. or maybe they just have a healthy way of coping w stress already. i know i could never do that though...

 

[hopeless302]

Many of them don't, unfortunately. Physicians have higher suicide rates relative to other professions due to a variety of factors, tbh.
Some links:

Suicide among doctors - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Factors Influencing US Physician and Surgeon Suicide Rates 2003-2017: Analysis of the CDC-National Violent Death Reporting System - PubMed

The prevalence of physician suicide increased over the 2003 to 2017 time-frame with over a third of deaths occurring from 2015 to 2017. Among surgeons, orthopedics has the highest prevalence of reported suicide. Risk factors for surgeon suicide include Asian/Pacific Islander race/ethnicity...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Doctors' Suicide Rate Highest of Any Profession

Doctors who die by suicide often have untreated or undertreated depression or other mental illnesses, a fact that underscores the need for early diagnosis and treatment.

www.webmd.com