IchijouRirika

IchijouRirika

Burial - Untrue
Dec 24, 2023
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I've said a few times before that, the only thing that keeps me going sometimes is to get revenge against the people that abused me and make them suffer worse than I did but, I don't even think this is being enough of motivation anymore to keep me going.
as much as I just wanna be gone already I also want that everyone that abused me suffers worse than I ever did. And no, CTB would not make them suffer at all, they wouldn't even give a shit.
 
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Mirrory Me

"Life's a mirror, but 'whose' mirror?"
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It's sad how it has affected you as a person. it came to my mind when I once heard a TV series talk about revenge fantasizing. That is, when a bitter person would like to magically put the evil-doer in a dark hole to suffer as a punishment, and keep them there under his power in the dark. It may seem satisfying, but nobody really has this kind of power, and so the only person who ends up having to stay there is the one who wishes it on others. The only way to get out of there is to somehow recover or let go of those people.
 
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IchijouRirika

IchijouRirika

Burial - Untrue
Dec 24, 2023
32
It's sad how it has affected you as a person. it came to my mind when I once heard a TV series talk about revenge fantasizing. That is, when a bitter person would like to magically put the evil-doer in a dark hole to suffer as a punishment, and keep them there under his power in the dark. It may seem satisfying, but nobody really has this kind of power, and so the only person who ends up having to stay there is the one who wishes it on others. The only way to get out of there is to somehow recover or let go of those people.
so I should just CTB without looking back?
 
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todienomore

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Yea processing the introject or whatever of the abuser is critical for you but revenge is also good in some cases.

Just keep in mind that 'time to discovery' is a critical strategy. An ideal method is where the distance between the act and the discovery is long. Its also good to wait long enough that you are not a suspect. The actual act can also imply a motive (random theft/vandalism vs personal vendetta). A lot to think about.

Honestly you should think about the psychology of this. For example you might have borderline personality disorder and be going into secondary psychopathy (watch sam vaknin).
 
Fulminare

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I'm not sure why revenge is seen as something bad by most people - you're really only letting abusers get away with what they've done without any consequences. Plus they most likely will do it again to other people.

I see revenge as a public service at this point, especially when the police doesn't care about what happened. You don't need to be a goddamn authority in order to make justice happen imo.

I'm not sweet talking homicide here, there are limits, but there are so many other creative ways to do it. Personally, the day I got my revenge on my abuser was absolutely freeing. I was able to start healing from my trauma.

Stand up for yourself and don't let people treat you like a play-toy. You're so much more than that.
 
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oneeyed

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Oct 11, 2022
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Do they believe in ghosts/spirits by chance? If you do ctb and leave a note they may see, state you will relentlessly haunt them. You'll be playing with their mind, any time something feels off with them they'll think it's your doing. Would be great if someone were to write "boo" on their mirror when they take a shower, like in the movies lol.
 
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UKscotty

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Please don't CTB just to get revenge. Trust me, people won't care, if they love or us hate us, we will soon be but a distant memory.
 
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Argo

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I've had experiences with malicious people, and the best thing you can do for your own health but also for others, is to recognize that they are unlucky. You already know how bad these people made you feel, you know how bad the effect their actions/words had on your life. So you must know, that if you were to do what they did, you would be filled with disgust at yourself, right? This should be obvious. Just consider, what is their mind like for them to act that way? Are they someone who is secure, or are they someone who needs to put others down to feel good about themselves? (sadist) Or, are they someone who just lacks any capacity to care about others, because they are so self-absorbed? (callous egomaniac) In either case, what if someone offered you a drug to turn you into such a person? Would you take the drug? I'm again going to assume you would say no. That would be a horrible idea, right? You don't want to be like them, you don't want to do what they did. If someone forced you to take that drug, that would be seen as a punishment. You would be unlucky, to become such a person.

From here, you can see that their life, the life they were born into, which would slowly transform them into a bad person, from conditions like: 1) Where they were born 2) What parents/peers/upbringing they had, 3) What genes they had, 4) What events in life they had, all these things, would transform them into this unfortunate person who would cause others misery. Notice how they don't control any of this, they didn't pick this. They were thrown into that life helplessly just like all of us are thrown into our lives helplessly, just like a tiger is thrown into a Tiger's life helplessly. If you were a Tiger, you would do tiger things, including sometimes harming people. If you were a bully, you would bully people helplessly-- that's just what they do.

Aren't they just unlucky? They are a victim, just like the victims they harm. What if this person was you, wouldn't you say you would be unlucky to be them? Now imagine another drug: Imagine we had a cure to their bad luck. Imagine this drug, once they took it, would cause them to suddenly turn into a person who could process shame, and guilt, and regret, and had good intentions towards others. The drug acted instantly, and the moment they were exposed to it, they fell to their knees and started sobbing. They would beg you for forgiveness because the shame would be that intense in the first few minutes, and after those first moments, things would calm down and they would be motivated to try to be better in the future and make up for what they did.

Again imagine this unlucky person is you. Imagine we have the cure-- and we can give it to you, should we do it? It will save the future victims you would prey on, but it would also save you, who is just another victim of bad luck, stuck inside the consciousness of a monster. Would you say thank you to someone who gave you the antidote? They would be a hero for you and others, no?

But... what if someone were to take revenge on you for the bad things you did, would that be good? What if they took revenge, by saying: "Fuck you, I'm not giving you the cure, to punish you for being such a bad person" <-- Would that make sense? Or would that just be more bad intention, the same kind of attitude the bad people have?

The point of all of this, is when you see people who hurt you are simply unlucky, the attitude changes based on what is true, based on a clear examination of what the facts are. Revenge no longer makes sense because for revenge to make sense, you must assume that this person could be different. But they can't-- they are just unlucky, and they are just a victim. Once you see that, you can feel sorry for them. And feeling sorry for them, versus hating them, means hatred does not eat you alive. Because the hatred that you feel , that fuels your revenge? That is like an infection from the hatred of the person who hurt you-- and who hurt them, to turn them into the monster they are. It lived in them, and then it went into you, to poison you for as long as you hold this hatred in you. Once you overcome this hatred, you are free, and you win.
 
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Aim

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I've said a few times before that, the only thing that keeps me going sometimes is to get revenge against the people that abused me and make them suffer worse than I did but, I don't even think this is being enough of motivation anymore to keep me going.
as much as I just wanna be gone already I also want that everyone that abused me suffers worse than I ever did. And no, CTB would not make them suffer at all, they wouldn't even give a shit.
You can sue abusive people. There is law enforcement consequences for abusers.
However, you would need to look into the different laws of your country.
 
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aloneomen

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Aug 31, 2022
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I feel this a lot too. I get all these violent thoughts if I'm being honest. (not sure if I can say this?)
I'd rather just CTB as ultimately, when I exhaust this particularly thought process I mostly always end up coming to the conclusion that it's not worth it. But I struggle with anger at times, and I worry that instead of just CTB, I'll inflict the pain I feel onto someone else physically before going out, or even worse just causing damage and not going out at all.
 
IchijouRirika

IchijouRirika

Burial - Untrue
Dec 24, 2023
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I'm not sweet talking homicide here, there are limits, but there are so many other creative ways to do it. Personally, the day I got my revenge on my abuser was absolutely freeing. I was able to start healing from my trauma.
yeah, I wouldn't go to the point of homicide honestly, or even to the point of actual physical harm but I do wanna make them suffer. Also, would you mind sharing your story?
Please don't CTB just to get revenge
I won't, they literally wouldn't care less if I killed myself lol
 
Fulminare

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yeah, I wouldn't go to the point of homicide honestly, or even to the point of actual physical harm but I do wanna make them suffer. Also, would you mind sharing your story?
I can't share my story. But I wish you good luck with whatever you decide to do!!
 
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I'm not sure why revenge is seen as something bad by most people - you're really only letting abusers get away with what they've done without any consequences. Plus they most likely will do it again to other people.

I see revenge as a public service at this point, especially when the police doesn't care about what happened. You don't need to be a goddamn authority in order to make justice happen imo.

I'm not sweet talking homicide here, there are limits, but there are so many other creative ways to do it. Personally, the day I got my revenge on my abuser was absolutely freeing. I was able to start healing from my trauma.

Stand up for yourself and don't let people treat you like a play-toy. You're so much more than that.
i personally believe that when you already have one aspect of you hurting, left with insecurities and a shattered dignity.. you should rather understand yourself and caress for your own needs instead of holding the past for too long or chasing parts of it. i am not writing it for just the sake of writing it, that i understand, being abused is a very very awful thing to take place in one's life and it hurts and hurts realizing that nowhere was it your own fault. but, the more you think of undoing it, the worse it gets inside of your head. i do believe that one should "never- ever" forget their past, but, you should know how to tackle the bad thoughts that come with it. and honestly if you know abuse is a bad shit, it isn't your style of payback, right ? their are other means and one can try to do those but i just wanted to say that it's more important to care for yourself in those moments and stand their for your own needs, get a better mental state.. and then maybe, maybe, if the thoughts about a payback persist, you can take necessary actions ( that the real you would prefer taking ). i am sorry if my thoughts were anyhow upsetting, i didn't mean to. even correct me at places i am wrong maybe, i would love to talk !
 
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i personally believe that when you already have one aspect of you hurting, left with insecurities and a shattered dignity.. you should rather understand yourself and caress for your own needs instead of holding the past for too long or chasing parts of it. i am not writing it for just the sake of writing it, that i understand, being abused is a very very awful thing to take place in one's life and it hurts and hurts realizing that nowhere was it your own fault. but, the more you think of undoing it, the worse it gets inside of your head. i do believe that one should "never- ever" forget their past, but, you should know how to tackle the bad thoughts that come with it. and honestly if you know abuse is a bad shit, it isn't your style of payback, right ? their are other means and one can try to do those but i just wanted to say that it's more important to care for yourself in those moments and stand their for your own needs, get a better mental state.. and then maybe, maybe, if the thoughts about a payback persist, you can take necessary actions ( that the real you would prefer taking ). i am sorry if my thoughts were anyhow upsetting, i didn't mean to. even correct me at places i am wrong maybe, i would love to talk !
The way I retaliated against my abuser was self-care in itself. I started to heal after it and now I'm above what happened.

Now, I'm not saying this would be the same outcome for everyone else who decides to seek out revenge, but what I'm trying to say is that you should not let others treat you like human trash and let them get away with it.

Truth is, they (the abusers) will undoubtedly continue if they do not face any consequences. That's why the police, or authorities in general, exist. Problem is, authorities most often do not care.

You're being stalked? Oh, we need tons of evidence and if the culprit hasn't harmed you then too bad, there's no case. You were sexually harassed? Go back to where it happened, maybe you will find the molester yourself! (Yes, an officer actually told me that).
I could go on and on about their incompetence and lack of empathy.

I agree with your points though. You should take everything into consideration before you make a move. Save revenge for the people who really deserve it. Go about it with a clear mind. Know when to stop. All crucial yet difficult factors to manage.

I could talk for hours about this because it's so controversial, although it's been around since the dawn of humanity.
 
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