Method I need help with SN method.

[Watcher]

I've tried to find a business which sells S.Nitrite; but I only found S.Nitrate. I don't know why it was more easy to found SNitrate instead of nitrite. It's supposed that the Nitrite form is harmless than the nitrate. So I watched some videos about the S.Nitrate, it's more reactive. But the problem is, that the only way to convert it to a nitrite, is if the bacterias in your body make it, after you drink it. Someone knows, if I can convert the nitrate to a nitrite form? And I know it can produce cancer, or brain damage as the nitrite. Actually if I'm not wrong, the nitrate can be used as the same as the nitrite, but maybe I just need to reduce the dose. Just by one extra atom of oxygen, I'm not able to ctb. Or shure of trying... Someone knows if it can work?

Well, at least, it is cheap. I was thinking on to make some small bombs before. As I said before, it's very reactive and it can be used to make powerful fire reactions. It will be funny haha :/

Zarathustra (My pet mouse) approves it.

 

[No_more]

Watcher, who's going to look after your mouse if you ctb?

 

[JadedGray]

Cute little mouse. :)

I hope you have someone to look after it, if you go.

 

[Escaper Boy]

I couldn't help but squeal at the mouse.

Back on topic, according to pubchem, ingested nitrate will be converted into nitrite by bacteria in the body. And then, the nitrite will react with hemoglobin to create methemoglobin. From technical standpoint, sodium nitrate is still poisonous, at least. Whether it's effective or not, that's still unknown. You might need to increase the dose instead of decreasing it.

 

[spanishguy22]

Nitrate will be ineffective. You'd need to take a massive dose.

 

[Can'tStandAnymore]

That mouse is cute

 

[Watcher]

Cute little mouse. :)

I hope you have someone to look after it, if you go.

Yeah, where I live, is actually surrounded by a little forest. I was planing to leave him free before.

I couldn't help but squeal at the mouse.

Back on topic, according to pubchem, ingested nitrate will be converted into nitrite by bacteria in the body. And then, the nitrite will react with hemoglobin to create methemoglobin. From technical standpoint, sodium nitrate is still poisonous, at least. Whether it's effective or not, that's still unknown. You might need to increase the dose instead of decreasing it.

Why do I will need to increase it? I thought because of the extra Oxygen it would be more oxidative¿? Or what I need to increase is the nitrogen?

Nitrate will be ineffective. You'd need to take a massive dose.

How much do you think?

 

[No_more]

Will he be able to look after himself in the wild if he's domesticated? Isn't the mouse worth living for?

 

[Watcher]

That mouse is cute ❤

Thanks :3

 

[Watcher]

Will he be able to look after himself in the wild if he's domesticated? Isn't the mouse worth living for?

Maybe, is a "native" specie (supposed) from here. But, maybe, my brother or someone else could take of him after all.

I hope Zarathustra will convince you to try some more yet again to find sodium Nitrite instead

Yeah, I hope too. The problem is... I talked to the seller and she told me that every chemical related to nitrates is actually very difficult to introduce to the country. Because is elections season, so for its easy use on armament industry, nitrates are actually been retained. And it could take at least 6 months to introduce it legally. By the other way, only big butcher companies are allowed to stock Sodium Nitrite.

 

[No_more]

Your mouse loves you. He will miss you if you die.

 

[spanishguy22]

Your mouse loves you. He will miss you if you die.

You're no better than a pro lifer right now. Why are you guilt tripping him? Should he suffer so others won't miss him? Leave him be.

 

[No_more]

Sorry.

 

[Ruffian]

The mouse is adorable. It's funny how animals can give you a reason to go on.

 

[StoleYoWaifu]

I'm having the same issues that you have. I can easily find 1kg of nitrate but nitrite isn't available in my country. I would think that you need to raise the amount of nitrate compared to nitrite. The reactive part isn't that important. As you said what matters is that the nitrate can turn into nitrite and then the nitrite will produce methemoglobinemia.

We know for a fact that the nitrate isn't as effective as nitrite, but it can kill... Now, we need to find out if it hurts a lot or if it is kinda peaceful.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/24734306.2018.1467532 Here's a paper that talks about a suicide attempt involving sodium nitrate, I would take a look at it and you can research more if you want (Be careful because as a scientist I can tell you that the journal isn't the greatest, but hey... It's better than a BuzzFeed article lol)

 

[Rez_MbChB]

Yeah, where I live, is actually surrounded by a little forest. I was planing to leave him free before.

Why do I will need to increase it? I thought because of the extra Oxygen it would be more oxidative¿? Or what I need to increase is the nitrogen?

How much do you think?

not quite how it works unfortunately with oxidation, would definately suggest nitrite