Discussion I might be paranoid but take a moment to read this and give your opinion.. Please. Method-SN

[-FrozenRobot-]

I have been on this forum for a long time now. During 2020, we used to obsess over SN...SN this, SN that...
That's when deaths due to SN peaked and the media fu**rs started publicizing it which led to discontinuing their production from most commonly accessible sites. Families of the ones who CTB'D successfully are angry and they want this site to be shut down.


Don't think I am going on a angry rant but, some of these families didn't respect the choice of one of them. Do you think they will respect our choice? They just want us to suffer. No offence.

You see where I'm getting at?
I went through the accounts of failed SN posts. Strange pattern I noticed was that- SN was mentioned from the start and the only topic being discussed about on their account was FAILED SN.

I call it bullshit.
I am a student of medicine. Let me say...Any poison which reaches the blood stream in the correct lethal dose and if the purity is correct- There is almost 0 chance that you're going to make out of it.

Reasons SN fail:
1. You didn't follow the protocol.
2. The SN was underdosed
3. You puked.
4. Intervention
5. Too much dilution
The objective is simple.
Get SN with purity above 95%.
Get some anti emetics.
KEEP THE SN IN THE STOMACH FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
I had a good friend who introduced me to SS. I was 17 by then. My first attempt was OD too. These were his words
"No matter what you do- Do not puke."
But I did puke for 2 entire days. I survived Paracetamol OD without hospitalization. I ingested 65 grams at 17 years old.

SN does not fail if you do everything properly. Just make sure it's purity is above 95 %.
People are scaring us that SN will lead to failure because it's the easiest way out there. It's accessible, economic and you can do it at ease. They wanted me to chicken out. No. I'm not going to do that. I'll be CTB-ing in a few weeks. I'll log in every detail from my attempt and give live updates.


Don't believe everything people say. I went through a lot of accounts and a particular one contained posts purely about SN failure.

Peace
Anyone who thinks they're going to just pass out, wake up and continue with their day after ingestion of SN has no knowledge of science and highly illiterate. You don't go on with your day after ingesting that's capable of dealing fatal damage.

You're going to experience shortness of breath untill methylene blue is administered. Your blood pressure will be low. Hypoxia is no joke. I've been there. Trust me
Don't trust anyone who says "Yeah, I did SN last night. It' didn't work. I just woke up and feel my head ache badly" They're lying.
Now this is for the people who spread the misinformation intentionally:
It's over. I understand that you lost someone whom you cared about but please don't mess with other people's choices. Choosing to CTB is a choice I make as much as I make a choice about being VEGAN or going on a carnivore diet.

 

[STTP]

I wonder how frequently these posts all come up as (disproportionately) new users - might be onto something, aha

 

[hardtruth]

The issue most who post about their experiences are young and reckless people who do not plan and take the time to follow the necessary steps. So that's why so many misses lately.

Usually the more matured and centered people are the quieter ones on this site.

My observation.

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

The issue most who post about their experiences are young and reckless people who do not plan and take the time to follow the necessary steps. So that's why so many misses lately.

Usually the more matured and centered people are the quieter ones on this site.

My observation.

True. True.

 

[AshesofSadness]

This potentially wouldn't tell much because of the inherent nature of popularity boosts, but i wonder how much they would line up with these moments of increased social media presence

 

[Huggs]

SN is my method in a few weeks, as well as CO potentially. The post is reassuring, at the same time I'm not sure. SN can fail like any method, and many people throw up with it, I believe many failure posts are legitimate. I'll still be using it regardless. It's a decent method. Even if I throw up I won't call EMS until hours later as there have been some successes after the individual threw up. I don't think it's an automatic fail, but it's essential to have backup glasses.

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

SN is my method in a few weeks, as well as CO potentially. The post is reassuring, at the same time I'm not sure. SN can fail like any method, and many people throw up with it, I believe many failure posts are legitimate. I'll still be using it regardless. It's a decent method. Even if I throw up I won't call EMS until hours later as there have been some successes after the individual threw up.

That's certainly true. I'm just going to keep doing it all day until I'm gone. I won't call the emergency service.

 

[SomewhatLoved]

Hey man, I'm studying paramedicine -- appreciate your medical insight into SN poisoning.

Something I've always wondered about is if it would be possible to inject SN in any way since it's water soluble so you could even just mix it with saline and, as you said, once something is in your bloodstream it's almost impossible to get it out and you're basically done for. The only complication I imagine is that it might be painful in some way or that getting enough of it into your body through an IV might pose a challenge and require some venipuncture skills that a lot of people might not really have. Although as a lot of people (like myself) lack access to beta-blocking antiemetics or other recommended medications to help make ingesting the poison effective, I could see this in some way hopefully being a better and less-reversible way of doing CTB by poison.

 

[Huggs]

That's certainly true. I'm just going to keep doing it all day until I'm gone. I won't call the emergency service.

Yeah, waking up again after is my worst nightmare and what truly terrifies me about CTB…if I do I'll try to use the remaining SN or go for CO. CO especially you can try again day of failure. The setup isn't too bad. If you haven't already maybe try looking into it and if you think worst case like me you could have that set up before taking SN.

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

Hey man, I'm studying paramedicine -- appreciate your medical insight into SN poisoning.

Something I've always wondered about is if it would be possible to inject SN in any way since it's water soluble so you could even just mix it with saline and, as you said, once something is in your bloodstream it's almost impossible to get it out and you're basically done for. The only complication I imagine is that it might be painful in some way or that getting enough of it into your body through an IV might pose a challenge and require some venipuncture skills that a lot of people might not really have. Although as a lot of people (like myself) lack access to beta-blocking antiemetics or other recommended medications to help make ingesting the poison effective, I could see this in some way hopefully being a better and less-reversible way of doing CTB by poison.

Not sure about injecting it. I probably should spend some time thinking about the mechanisms and stuff.
But there is a high probability that if you are going to add it to saline that its going to be filtered out before the entire dose enters the body. Injecting it through veins might be...quite painful and feel like fire is running through you considering that it's a salt

 

[SomewhatLoved]

Not sure about injecting it. I probably should spend some time thinking about the mechanisms and stuff.
But there is a high probability that if you are going to add it to saline that its going to be filtered out before the entire dose enters the body. Injecting it through veins might be...quite painful and feel like fire is running through you considering that it's a salt

Fuck, really thought maybe I was onto something lol. Injected poisoning seems really appealing to me because once you push it there's basically no way for your body to get it out, but it's not easy to come by a reliable source of barbiturates or opioids and there aren't many other options for painless ways to OD in a reliable and irreversible way.

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

Fuck, really thought maybe I was onto something lol. Injected poisoning seems really appealing to me because once you push it there's basically no way for your body to get it out, but it's not easy to come by a reliable source of barbiturates or opioids and there aren't many other options for painless ways to OD in a reliable and irreversible way.

The US devised a great way to CTB but now....I don't think its in practice. It involves freezing your heart beat

 

[haibane]

I too saw a lot of post like that, but tbh i wasn't confident to say its fake since idk shit about how it work tbh. Ty to spread the reality cause im sure that some people trusted that sn was unreliable and had to tried anything else.

 

[Meditation guide]

I really do not recall anyone saying they vomited and then were alive after drinking SN, unless they went to the hospital and got the antidote. 95% vomit and still succeed.

EDIT:
Ok I found an account of someone who DID vomit and survived and am posting it for general information so people can make up their minds:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/search/1365699/?c[users]=Silasruin&o=date

Here is one of the posts from Silasruin who was posting about vomiting and surviving SN:

I took a pretty heavy dose in water last year, and while I did not follow everything to a T I did have domperidone for an anti emetic and I can tell you didn't do fuck all.

Maybe meto is far more effective but even with domperidone and such you probably vomit and violently. When that shit hits your stomach your body knows what's up. It's just evacuation evacuation evacuation. I see people talking about all you do is redose which sounds fine in theory. But when your body is rejecting a substance to that degree it'll come straight back up.

I don't know how much tasting it was a factor to me. I'm not someone who can drink hard liquor straight as it is, but this stuff was strong and "burned" for lack of a better word. If you have meto and you can drink liquor straight maybe it'll go easier for you.

^^^ This sounds like an honest account of what happens when you take SN for some people. He did take more than suggested along with more water though.

 

[ThisIsLife]

I do believe SN works as intended, i too think failing with SN is a rare occurence that only happens to people who don't follow the protocol; i'm not 100% sure about the painlessness though, i still have doubts.

TBH SN isn't my favorite method because i take into consideration how my body will look like when i'll be dead and i don't like the idea of leaving this world with a probability of vomiting, but i respect the method because it does the job pretty well, doesn't require anything than a little bit of water, making it very easy to succeed.

What i wonder about is how much time does it take to blackout with SN; that's what matters the most to me.
I don't care if a method takes X hours to kill me as long as i get knocked out very quickly from the start.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I was terrified of waking up after drinking SN but I think as long as it's the quality it is (99.5%) then the chances of me waking up but in a bad way is very slim plus with Meto and Benzos, it should be the end of it although since cardiovascular issues do exacerbate SN, I think I'm as good as gone at that point and I'm from a part of the world where SN is still a very unknown method.

I think people freak out because of the vomit as maybe some are emetiphobic and also add in a faster heartbeat and well...most people call for help at that point and I wouldn't blame them, a million thoughts are running through your mind, believing that you've more than likely failed so if you don't get help, you could end up really sick so they panic in that moment which again, I don't blame them for.

I think failure threads that don't stray into some form of exaggeration of the common ways people fail sn is fine, those that do have always been in question for me.

I'll be CTB-ing in a few weeks. I'll log in every detail from my attempt and give live updates.

It'll be interesting if you do this because I haven't seen someone log their ctb attempt in detail in a while and yes, I do remember looking through some of the stats for death by SN, 2020-21 was high and since those were the Covid years, this site caught a bit more attention as a result.

 

[Obliviate]

You're going to experience shortness of breath untill methylene blue is administered.

There will be shortness of breath but no suffocation correct? No hypercapnia alarm since CO2 will still be expelled

 

[dizzdesi]

I have been on this forum for a long time now. During 2020, we used to obsess over SN...SN this, SN that...
That's when deaths due to SN peaked and the media fu**rs started publicizing it which led to discontinuing their production from most commonly accessible sites. Families of the ones who CTB'D successfully are angry and they want this site to be shut down.


Don't think I am going on a angry rant but, some of these families didn't respect the choice of one of them. Do you think they will respect our choice? They just want us to suffer. No offence.

You see where I'm getting at?
I went through the accounts of failed SN posts. Strange pattern I noticed was that- SN was mentioned from the start and the only topic being discussed about on their account was FAILED SN.

I call it bullshit.
I am a student of medicine. Let me say...Any poison which reaches the blood stream in the correct lethal dose and if the purity is correct- There is almost 0 chance that you're going to make out of it.

Reasons SN fail:
1. You didn't follow the protocol.
2. The SN was underdosed
3. You puked.
4. Intervention
5. Too much dilution
The objective is simple.
Get SN with purity above 95%.
Get some anti emetics.
KEEP THE SN IN THE STOMACH FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
I had a good friend who introduced me to SS. I was 17 by then. My first attempt was OD too. These were his words
"No matter what you do- Do not puke."
But I did puke for 2 entire days. I survived Paracetamol OD without hospitalization. I ingested 65 grams at 17 years old.

SN does not fail if you do everything properly. Just make sure it's purity is above 95 %.
People are scaring us that SN will lead to failure because it's the easiest way out there. It's accessible, economic and you can do it at ease. They wanted me to chicken out. No. I'm not going to do that. I'll be CTB-ing in a few weeks. I'll log in every detail from my attempt and give live updates.


Don't believe everything people say. I went through a lot of accounts and a particular one contained posts purely about SN failure.

Peace
Anyone who thinks they're going to just pass out, wake up and continue with their day after ingestion of SN has no knowledge of science and highly illiterate. You don't go on with your day after ingesting that's capable of dealing fatal damage.

You're going to experience shortness of breath untill methylene blue is administered. Your blood pressure will be low. Hypoxia is no joke. I've been there. Trust me
Don't trust anyone who says "Yeah, I did SN last night. It' didn't work. I just woke up and feel my head ache badly" They're lying.
Now this is for the people who spread the misinformation intentionally:
It's over. I understand that you lost someone whom you cared about but please don't mess with other people's choices. Choosing to CTB is a choice I make as much as I make a choice about being VEGAN or going on a carnivore diet.

hello, firstly I can tell you're very educated and informed on medicine. I'm glad that my suspicions about SN "recovery" were true…I couldn't understand how something so dangerous could make a failed attempt feel as if it never happened

 

[DreamEnd]

SN is a good method if followed correctly from the protocol.

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

There will be shortness of breath but no suffocation correct? No hypercapnia alarm since CO2 will still be expelled

No suffocation. You're not actually suffocating. It's just that...your cells can't use the oxygen you're inhaling.

It'll be interesting if you do this because I haven't seen someone log their ctb attempt in detail in a while and yes, I do remember looking through some of the stats for death by SN, 2020-21 was high and since those were the Covid years, this site caught a bit more attention as a result.

2019 to 2021 was the golden era of SN

 

[AllCatsAreGrey]

No suffocation. You're not actually suffocating. It's just that...your cells can't use the oxygen you're inhaling.

It's that good ol' "happy hypoxia" they talk about in PPH. It seems the suffocating feeling comes when the CO2 isn't removed. Since the hypoxia (lack of oxygen intake) is happening in the blood with SN, the lungs can still do the work of removing CO2.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

2019 to 2021 was the golden era of SN

When you mean Golden-Era, do you mean the discussion around it on this forum or the rate of which people were taking it and ctb?
I don't want to assume it means anything that it doesn't from my perspective.

I mean, you've been around since 2020 which was a time where I did notice a lot of people take it when I searched through the forum.

 

[cosifantutti]

I have been on this forum for a long time now. During 2020, we used to obsess over SN...SN this, SN that...
That's when deaths due to SN peaked and the media fu**rs started publicizing it which led to discontinuing their production from most commonly accessible sites. Families of the ones who CTB'D successfully are angry and they want this site to be shut down.


Don't think I am going on a angry rant but, some of these families didn't respect the choice of one of them. Do you think they will respect our choice? They just want us to suffer. No offence.

You see where I'm getting at?
I went through the accounts of failed SN posts. Strange pattern I noticed was that- SN was mentioned from the start and the only topic being discussed about on their account was FAILED SN.

I call it bullshit.
I am a student of medicine. Let me say...Any poison which reaches the blood stream in the correct lethal dose and if the purity is correct- There is almost 0 chance that you're going to make out of it.

Reasons SN fail:
1. You didn't follow the protocol.
2. The SN was underdosed
3. You puked.
4. Intervention
5. Too much dilution
The objective is simple.
Get SN with purity above 95%.
Get some anti emetics.
KEEP THE SN IN THE STOMACH FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
I had a good friend who introduced me to SS. I was 17 by then. My first attempt was OD too. These were his words
"No matter what you do- Do not puke."
But I did puke for 2 entire days. I survived Paracetamol OD without hospitalization. I ingested 65 grams at 17 years old.

SN does not fail if you do everything properly. Just make sure it's purity is above 95 %.
People are scaring us that SN will lead to failure because it's the easiest way out there. It's accessible, economic and you can do it at ease. They wanted me to chicken out. No. I'm not going to do that. I'll be CTB-ing in a few weeks. I'll log in every detail from my attempt and give live updates.


Don't believe everything people say. I went through a lot of accounts and a particular one contained posts purely about SN failure.

Peace
Anyone who thinks they're going to just pass out, wake up and continue with their day after ingestion of SN has no knowledge of science and highly illiterate. You don't go on with your day after ingesting that's capable of dealing fatal damage.

You're going to experience shortness of breath untill methylene blue is administered. Your blood pressure will be low. Hypoxia is no joke. I've been there. Trust me
Don't trust anyone who says "Yeah, I did SN last night. It' didn't work. I just woke up and feel my head ache badly" They're lying.
Now this is for the people who spread the misinformation intentionally:
It's over. I understand that you lost someone whom you cared about but please don't mess with other people's choices. Choosing to CTB is a choice I make as much as I make a choice about being VEGAN or going on a carnivore diet.

How many tablets is 65g?cos it sounds like a lot.

What do you mean by the US having a method by freezing the heart?

Wishing you well.

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

How many tablets is 65g?cos it sounds like a lot.

What do you mean by the US having a method by freezing the heart?

Wishing you well.

I meant the chemical method. The one will clinical setting and the warden of the jail initiating the "ending" mechanism. In short, it's just chemical method where they use chemicals to slow down your heart and eventually stop it. All after sedating you.

65 grams is like 100 pills.

When you mean Golden-Era, do you mean the discussion around it on this forum or the rate of which people were taking it and ctb?
I don't want to assume it means anything that it doesn't from my perspective.

I mean, you've been around since 2020 which was a time where I did notice a lot of people take it when I searched through the forum.

Many people managed to use sn successfully. That's what i meant.
Yep. A lot of discussions went on about perfecting SN and many managed to CTB with it. Kids these days on this forum are making sn seem useless. It's definitely useless if you aren't following the protocol.

 

[MG_39]

I call it bullshit.
I am a student of medicine. Let me say...Any poison which reaches the blood stream in the correct lethal dose and if the purity is correct- There is almost 0 chance that you're going to make out of it.

Reasons SN fail:
1. You didn't follow the protocol.
2. The SN was underdosed
3. You puked.
4. Intervention
5. Too much dilution
The objective is simple.
Get SN with purity above 95%.
Get some anti emetics.
KEEP THE SN IN THE STOMACH FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
I had a good friend who introduced me to SS. I was 17 by then. My first attempt was OD too. These were his words
"No matter what you do- Do not puke."
But I did puke for 2 entire days. I survived Paracetamol OD without hospitalization. I ingested 65 grams at 17 years old.

SN does not fail if you do everything properly. Just make sure it's purity is above 95 %.
People are scaring us that SN will lead to failure because it's the easiest way out there. It's accessible, economic and you can do it at ease. They wanted me to chicken out. No. I'm not going to do that. I'll be CTB-ing in a few weeks. I'll log in every detail from my attempt and give live updates.

But doing everything properly means taking an AE (D2-antagonist) to avoid puking, but at least from what I've seen it's very common to puke even with AE. And that applies to both failed attempts and successful attempts. I don't write this to fear monger, believe me I wish I had a certain way out, but is your statement "SN does not fail if you do everything properly." really correct? I'm not trying to say that you are wrong, but can you elaborate your thoughts behind that a little further in correlation to throwing up?

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

But doing everything properly means taking an AE (D2-antagonist) to avoid puking, but at least from what I've seen it's very common to puke even with AE. And that applies to both failed attempts and successful attempts. I don't write this to fear monger, believe me I wish I had a certain way out, but is your statement "SN does not fail if you do everything properly." really correct? I'm not trying to say that you are wrong, but can you elaborate your thoughts behind that a little further in correlation to throwing up?

I don't think I am knowledgeable enough to answer this question since it all boils down to the individual.

"Not a fear monger" ? yeah. got it.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Many people managed to use sn successfully. That's what i meant.
Yep. A lot of discussions went on about perfecting SN and many managed to CTB with it. Kids these days on this forum are making sn seem useless. It's definitely useless if you aren't following the protocol.

I mostly agree due to the fact that more people back during those years did use it according to the way it was supposed which means following the regimen to the latter so it was more likely to be successful back then.

I suppose the more errors being made these days by an individual makes people think SN is utterly useless and should be entirely avoided because it is unreliable from the start. I plan to fully implement protocol to the best of my ability in order to maximize the possibility of ctb rather surviving.

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

I suppose the more errors being made these days by an individual makes people think SN is utterly useless and should be entirely avoided because it is unreliable from the start. I plan to fully implement protocol to the best of my ability in order to maximize the possibility of ctb rather surviving.

Hello there :)
Can I PM you?

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Hello there :)
Can I PM you?

Why?
Go ahead anyway

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

I really do not recall anyone saying they vomited and then were alive after drinking SN, unless they went to the hospital and got the antidote. 95% vomit and still succeed.

EDIT:
Ok I found an account of someone who DID vomit and survived and am posting it for general information so people can make up their minds:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/search/1365699/?c[users]=Silasruin&o=date

Here is one of the posts from Silasruin who was posting about vomiting and surviving SN:

I took a pretty heavy dose in water last year, and while I did not follow everything to a T I did have domperidone for an anti emetic and I can tell you didn't do fuck all.

Maybe meto is far more effective but even with domperidone and such you probably vomit and violently. When that shit hits your stomach your body knows what's up. It's just evacuation evacuation evacuation. I see people talking about all you do is redose which sounds fine in theory. But when your body is rejecting a substance to that degree it'll come straight back up.

I don't know how much tasting it was a factor to me. I'm not someone who can drink hard liquor straight as it is, but this stuff was strong and "burned" for lack of a better word. If you have meto and you can drink liquor straight maybe it'll go easier for you.

^^^ This sounds like an honest account of what happens when you take SN for some people. He did take more than suggested along with more water though.

Thank you so much for sharing this. I really needed to read that. I did a little bit of digging...sourcing more from the mentioned account and wow...