I hate Sasu’s reputation in the media 😡

[TimetoGo!]

This site pretty much saved me from a huge mistake , and probably living as a vegetable right now. All I knew about suicide 2 years ago was what Id seen in movies.

I thought that maybe downing a load of painkillers was what I needed to do, but in reality that is probably the worst thing to do.

Seeing how we are all portrayed in the media is shocking……and I think this site has SAVED so many people's lives. It certainly saved mine.

Suicide is hot topic at the moment, in government and in the media. And Sanctioned Suicide is mentioned in so many articles I have read recently, in a negative way.

I have seen a few ridiculous posts on here, and you learn after two years to ignore the crap and focus on the positive side of it, but I rarely see any of us activity encouraging anyone else to take their lives, completely wrong for them to say that. The media have it wrong and I just wish they understood it from our perspective. We are in pain, and a site like this offers so much comfort to many of us, simply because its an anonymous place to vent, seek support without judgment and actually get the SUPPORT that we all need. From people who understand what we are going through, whatever the reason.

The media and public need to understand that this site is actually essential, and humans will always be suicidal for different reasons. We need a site like this, because I feel there would be so much more uneducated attempts if something like this didn't exist.

The families of people who have committed suicide are rightly upset, and they need someone to blame, so targeting the likes of Ken Law and Sanctioned Suicide is the obvious target……..Ken Law got greedy, he was making a tonne of cash out of this and he definitely had "disciples" pushing his products on here, I experienced it myself (I was minutes from ordering SN/and or gas kit off him before he was caught) but I feel he also probably saved so many of us from alot of pain and suffering by supplying it.

I wish someone could stand up for this community…….maybe do an interview or shed a positive light on it, because I personally have spoken to a few wonderful people on here who are just simply in pain, need help, need to open up and need genuine advice. I am one of those, and not one single person on here has encouraged me to CTB, in fact, the opposite.

I have been on here far too long, even classed as an "mage" (seasoned member) ……and I hate that because I should of been dead at least a year ago (4 attempts).

Im more determined than ever to CTB……and it will happen. But I just hope when I am gone this site continues and isn't "sanctioned " itself.

Much love to you all. Look after each other , thanks for reading

 

[Lulzacruel]

Getting an interview is impossible at this point.
I tried to complain to the BBC about the news it produced and i gave up because it crashed on me and it did not auto save
I am willing to speak up about it publicly. I am pretty much the last openly pro SS people on social media at this point. I do not believe that we will gain a good strong point or platform to defend ourselves

 

[TimetoGo!]

Getting an interview is impossible at this point.
I tried to complain to the BBC about the news it produced and i gave up because it crashed on me and it did not auto save
I am willing to speak up about it publicly. I am pretty much the last openly pro SS people on social media at this point. I do not believe that we will gain a good strong point or platform to defend ourselves

I still think its worth doing though.

My anxiety couldn't handle the backlash it may get, hence why I couldn't do it.

you are probably correct in what you say though

 

[ChoclateIsSweet]

SaSu isn't perfect, but god I would be dead without it.

 

[TimetoGo!]

SaSu isn't perfect, but god I would be dead without it.

Yeah 100%…….id like to think it does more good than bad though

 

[onyx559]

I think the reason so many people have an issue with the site stems from religion. Not fully but i'd stay a big chunk. Please don't take this the wrong way, I am not religious and I'm not at all going to bash religion. I was born in Germany to a samoan Catholic mother and a Christian father now living in America. So bear in mind this is coming from a usa perspective ( sorry :/ ) I don't know every single religion out there but the ones I have been in direct contact with or know about all view suicide as a bad thing. Since many countries are based off religious practices people grow up with the blind knowledge that suicide is inevitably bad, or a sin. Most people here will base a chunk of their arguments on that. Instead of trying to be there for people and providing help (if they want it) or doing things to where suicide will never even become a thought they turn to religion. "pray about it" "god is there for you" "trust in god" .

People who talk down about the site aren't ready to talk and importantly understand how a person can feel so alone then they seek comfort of strangers online who feel the say way. How they can come to people who won't tell them "you're going to hell if you do that" or that they're "weak". They don't want to admit to themselves that seeing suicide as a "sin" has pushed people away from them. They see the name of the site and run with this negative narrative they have in their head. I've tried to leave this world and still have the thoughts but i've found this site and knowing there are real people in real time that can understand and know what it feels like makes me feel a lot better. Knowing i'm not alone makes me feel better.

 

[throneofdispair03]

The government wants people to work and pay taxes and they can't get money from dead people. So, they slander sites like this or say "you're going to hell" if you have a thought of ending your suffering. Additionally, most of society hasn't experienced what it's like to have thoughts of ending your life, so they just imagine that if someone does they're insane cause they can't comprehend that someone can't find life enjoyable. It's a shame, really.

 

[ChoclateIsSweet]

Yeah 100%…….id like to think it does more good than bad though

I'm mostly hanging around off-topic and recovery but from the news sites and anti-SaSu coverage I've seen here are the reasons people are against it.

- Death of minors that have used this site/ minors even being on this site and having access to this methods is enough for most people to dismiss it as a horrible horrible place.
- 'anti-therapy/psychiatry' outlook, and hatred for the of hospitalisations.
- In the infamous Tantacrul video he makes it seem like we encourage each other to cut off support networks, if they were anti CTB.
- Although, these exist in every platform, people that prey on the vulnerable people in this website do not give SaSu a 'good' reputation.
- They think most post are encouraging people to CTB/ they ignore the other parts of the forum. Even if it was only 0.05% of the post, that's enough evidence for a lot of people.

I was a guest on this site for a few years when I was a teenager, all I knew about suicide then was hanging and jumping. I would've hanged or jumped. If someone is desperate enough to end themselves, they will. They don't need to know the methods here. However, until we can argue the above reasons, no one will listen to us. We will be continued to be viewed as both victims and enablers.

 

[deadbody]

Honestly, I don't understand why people have such a negative attitude towards suicide and those who have already chosen to leave this world. By condemning and trying to ban sites like SaSu, they only cut off people from the opportunity to speak out to others in a similar situation. Everyone needs support or someone to tell their story to.

 

[Lulzacruel]

Jeromy Vine Show BBC Radio 2
But in order to represent sasu you'd need to be reinstated as a moderator (not a simple sasu member) and probably promoted to the newly made rank of 'supreme moderator'. Also bear in mind that you'll probably be as hated by much of their captive audience as Putin is right now as they'll just see you as a defender of indirect murderers and all the other bs they associate with here. I hope you have broad shoulders

I am not british.
If stylometry was not such a problem then i would have considered volunteering to what you just said
the threat of stylometry make this very hard
I retired because i did not have time to help and i feel useless. I would consider becoming a global mod if i started using the site again lots.

 

[UKscotty]

The media leaves us alone except when we have a high profile member CTB. As bad as this sounds, usually some rich white kid who decides life isn't for them. Instead of going after the parents, the government, schools and social services, the media like to blame us. You get used to it after a while.

I don't believe we do anything here which is not already freely available on places like Wikipedia.

If you read through the posts, there are only a tiny handful of people who are pro-death, mostly people here are pro-choice.

 

[TimetoGo!]

I don't believe we do anything here which is not already freely available on places like Wikipedia.

ive never seen the in depth detail about methods on wikipedia…….thats where this site is good, every aspect is debated

 

[Linda]

The media gets a lot of things wrong, sometimes deliberately. I remember what they wrote about gay people 60 years ago. (The only reason they stopped doing that sort of thing was that trans people became an easier target.) I know what they write about muslims today. (I'm not muslim myself, but I have had staff and colleagues at work who were, and I lived for several years in a conservative islamic coutry, so I know that reality and what you sometimes read in the media are a million miles apart.) The media (or most of it, anyway) doesn't exist to tell the truth, or to promote human wellbeing; it exists to sell itself and make money, and creating fake outrage tends to do that very well. If there was money to be made by proclaiming that the earth is flat, or that 2 + 2 = 5, they would print that, and there would be millions of people who would believe it. Correct the misconceptions they promote when you get an opportunity to do so, but otherwise just ignore it.

 

[mortuarymary]

Jeromy Vine Show BBC Radio 2
But in order to represent sasu you'd need to be reinstated as a moderator (not a simple sasu member) and probably promoted to the newly made rank of 'supreme moderator'. Also bear in mind that you'll probably be as hated by much of their captive audience as Putin is right now as they'll just see you as a defender of indirect murderers and all the other bs they associate with here. I hope you have broad shoulders

I enjoy a bit of Jerermy.
How to defend it?
I think in the time I've been here I've seen some very loving, supportive posts. I mean that. I'm also concerned at the stupid ones getting in. Who have no clue what they are getting into.
This is a site for people that may or may not commit suicide. Bullying on Facebook and Inster causes people to CTB. You can't blame a website for someone's state of mind. I came here because I'm nosy and I had questions. I've decided to stay and messaged some great people. I'm in no hurry to leave this world, but it doesn't stop the aching but if I can help someone on here I will.

 

[NeverReallyHere]

The opposition to suicide from the mainstream media and the government is not coming from a genuine concern for people's physical and mental welfare, but from a desire to maintain their own power and social control. When looked at from this perspective it's easy to see why they would seek to deny people access to the tools and information they need to make an informed choice (as well as a crucial measure of support which many of them lack in their everyday lives), even at the cost of significantly worse outcomes for the individuals concerned.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

This site is seen as promoting a toxic idea. And a dangerous idea. That suicide is not really a legitimate choice for most people, and is a mistake in most cases. This is a biased and highly subjective view.

They make the mistake of thinking this site exists to promote that idea, when in fact the reverse is true.... this site exists because the idea/choice of suicide is a reality of life. And always has been.

It's also much easier to be angry at this site, because it's not socially acceptable to be angry at individuals who are actively considering suicide as a legitimate option. And obviously no point in venting towards a dead person either, that's not much use. So this site is a convenient target for all that anger and frustration.

And many people in society are still clinging to this foolish notion, that if you cover up suicide and try to hide it from view as much as possible... then it will just magically go away. Along with all the toxic positivity and useless suicide prevention/awareness campaigns, this is still the same old worn out playbook. Head in the sand stuff.

 

[Aim]

Not surprised.