Venting I hate how the word “recovery” is used so much in regards to wanting to die

[FuneralCry]

I hate when people continue to use that word because even know pro-lifers get offended by this, if one wants to die it's not an illness. Using the word "recovery" just comes across as so delusional to me as existence is the problem rather than the wish to be permanently free from it. There is nothing "ill" or "irrational" about wanting to prevent all future suffering through suicide, to me suicide is actually very logical because there is no limit as to how much one can suffer as long as they are enslaved in this futile, meaningless and pointless existence.

There is no "recovery" from the fact that existence could never be a desirable state, to me the ill ones are those who worship existence so much even know existence causes nothing but harm, unnecessary problems and suffering. To have the ability to exist is burdensome and it's like a virus how humans impose it onto others.

I don't understand how anyone could desire existence in the first place, I see existence as nothing more than an endless cycle of cruelty and suffering that so tragically continues to repeat once new life is forced here, existence is just an unnecessary harm and death means peace. I envy those who no longer exist as after all one cannot suffer from the absence of everything, I don't see any value in existing as a conscious being destined to deteriorate and decay from age, I find it terrifying how a human can potentially exist for so long.

 

[breezeboy]

A lot of people are capable of recovering though.
Recovery is not an evil or bad word at all and it's use is not exclusive to suicides lol

 

[dinosavr]

When ctb is a decision then of course there's nothing to recover from but let's remember suicidal thoughts and tendencies are symptoms of many mental illnesses and disorders, such as depression or schizophrenia or many many more that people here and everywhere else have to deal with. And millions of them have recovered so please remember there's your point of view and there's billions of different stories than yours and let people find death as something you'd rather avoid than chase. And I'm saying that as a person who dreams about dying with every cell of her brain.

You hate how society doesn't understand suicidal people, and I agree, it should be a choice. But at the very same time you also don't get their point at all. So please don't require any understanding if you're not willing to understand the other party either…

 

[skdjm]

Same feeling although not suicidal now.
Though not a native speaker, I think "recover" suggests "getting better" so it implies being suicidal is a bad thing. That's what I'd reject from the first.
For similar reason, I find the phrase "suicide prevention" strange.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

To me, my version of recovery is me being dead as early as possible. Death will be my recovery

 

[bishopxowiki]

When ctb is a decision then of course there's nothing to recover from but let's remember suicidal thoughts and tendencies are symptoms of many mental illnesses and disorders, such as depression or schizophrenia or many many more that people here and everywhere else have to deal with. And millions of them have recovered so please remember there's your point of view and there's billions of different stories than yours and let people find death as something you'd rather avoid than chase. And I'm saying that as a person who dreams about dying with every cell of her brain.

You hate how society doesn't understand suicidal people, and I agree, it should be a choice. But at the very same time you also don't get their point at all. So please don't require any understanding if you're not willing to understand the other party either…

Your brain is beautiful

 

[Rapière]

"Living person says death is the greatest thing ever" - The Onion

 

[divinemistress36]

I've tried almost every treatment out there to recover but brain damage is permanent. Some people can't recover and it's frustrating when people keep talking about recovery when it's not possible for some people

 

[just_a_guy]

Yup, "recovery" gives the impression that we're suffering from an illness. What they should say is that they want us to buy into the shared delusion of this life and world being a beautiful gift

 

[beelzebul]

Yup, "recovery" gives the impression that we're suffering from an illness. What they should say is that they want us to buy into the shared delusion of this life and world being a beautiful gift

But most of us ARE suffering from an illness. Depression is an illness. Wanting to die isn't normal. We ARE sick. There's nothing wrong with that, but let's not pull the wool over our own eyes here.

 

[zel]

But most of us ARE suffering from an illness. Depression is an illness. Wanting to die isn't normal. We ARE sick. There's nothing wrong with that, but let's not pull the wool over our own eyes here.

At the very least, from a strictly biological perspective, we are defective and unhealthy animals. The nature and proper functioning of any animal is to live, and to live long enough to reproduce. In many ways, I don't think humans are much different in the sense that we're showing signs of ill health and dysfunction in trying to actively end our own lives. Of course there are other considerations to be made re: quality of life, philosophical deliberation, but I perfectly understand why many would consider suicidality something which one may "recover" from.