Venting I fear that this website won’t last in this anti choice society.

[FuneralCry]

I just hate how this society seems to be becoming more anti suicide with people so cruelly wishing to restrict any reliable suicide method so that people will have no choice but to resort to brutal and risky methods to free themselves from the hell that is existing. And sadly I cannot imagine this website staying here for much longer, it's true that everything must end, I just hope that there will always be somewhere for people to at least read about suicide methods so they don't end up being tortured more by attempting an obviously risky method that is pretty much guaranteed to fail.

Suicidal people deserve to have a reliable way to exit this world and it's really cruel and inhumane to wish to censor that further in a society that already is so anti suicide, this world where people cannot pass away in peace really disgusts me but it's unfortunately the reality. The society needs slaves after all, and so many in this world wish to make us all prisoners to this existence. But it's true that delusional pro life people only ever create more suffering, it would be different if something happened to them to make them want to die, anybody can end up in the most extreme torture possible in this world and existing can get much more unbearable for anyone at any moment so pro lifers should think of this before they try to remove suicide method options and information. No matter what nobody should be obligated to exist and the right to die will always be a basic human right. Pro lifers are really just pro torture.

 

[pharmacoepia]

I agree with your general sentiment, but I think people are "anti-choice" not because of malicious reasons, but because they legitimately think they were doing a good thing. Unfortunately, those people don't understand the ingenuity of the human spirit if it is really dedicated to something.

As for website issues, all I have to say is that sasu will always rise up. I'm currently one of the few users approved by the admins to use Tor and VPN's on sign-up and for daily use for the website since I live in aus, which blocks sasu. Even if the clearnet options get eliminated by whoever, the .onion domain will always be a fast and always available way to access sasu from anywhere in the world.

What I'm saying is that I heavily doubt that sasu will ever be taken down "for good." Sure, maybe FixThe26 might actually win some day and get the hosters to boot us off. But then, we can just find another hoster or make our own telegram or whatever. It will massively decrease the convenience of the site, but it won't be dead.

 

[yive]

it's absolutely disgusting what they do to us and it shouldn't be considered "acceptable" at all. to take away methods means to torture people, and it's really a cruel crime. people need to protest and defend their right to die, to keep spreading the word about the methods, not just put up with being deprived of their rights and forced to be slaves to society. we also need to spread efilistic/antinatalistic views to eliminate people's misconceptions about life being good, "a gift" and to widen the overton window.

if you don't agree with this terrible status quo it's always better to say something than to say nothing. life is a war that never ends anyway. it's such a misfortune to be born in this damn cesspool. and despite their efforts and their numbers, i don't think they can shut us up anyway. you can't just hide the truth from people. if life really were something good, there would be no need to force someone to stay in it and lock them in a cage. people need to wake up and realize that they are not free. life != freedom

 

[NambaSutra]

You're probably right. Eventually the site owners will get sued and that will probably be the end.

The internet as a whole isn't what it used to be, 10-15 years ago there were blogs and forums everywhere but now it's mostly concentrated into a few mega corporations and everything else is dying.

 

[Patrick Basedman]

You're right suicide should be a human right.People don't see anything wrong with some Africans or animals dying against their will when they want to live, but refuse to accept someone who wants to erase themselves voluntarily. It seems like the more you want something nowadays the less likely you are to get it from other people. You want love ? Well toughen up buttercup you ain't getting it so soon. You want other people's approval? HAHA keep trying

 

[pharmacoepia]

it's absolutely disgusting what they do to us and it shouldn't be considered "acceptable" at all. to take away methods means to torture people, and it's really a cruel crime. people need to protest and defend their right to die, to keep spreading the word about the methods, not just put up with being deprived of their rights and forced to be slaves to society. we also need to spread efilistic/antinatalistic views to eliminate people's misconceptions about life being good, "a gift" and to widen the overton window.

if you don't agree with this terrible status quo it's always better to say something than to say nothing. life is a war that never ends anyway. it's such a misfortune to be born in this damn cesspool. and despite their efforts and their numbers, i don't think they can shut us up anyway. you can't just hide the truth from people. if life really were something good, there would be no need to force someone to stay in it and lock them in a cage. people need to wake up and realize that they are not free. life != freedom

Eh, antinatalism and misanthropy is only for those that truly regret living. The truth is that most people are content will living happy lives. The issue is when somebody doesn't want to live, and treatment doesn't help. I feel like in that case, we should allow somebody to CTB if they are legitimately locked in a brain that is resistant to treatment and doesn't want to budge.

I get the idea that you've been suffering for a long time man. Hope you will find a way out, CTB or otherwise.

 

[OceanBlue]

I mostly don't want all the goodbye stories to disappear and there are so many great discussions on various topics, especially euthanasia and antinatalism.

I still have hope this website can be an educational place for those who are undecided about having children (don't do it).

Eh, antinatalism and misanthropy is only for those that truly regret living.

It's for people with empathy. What many Antinatalists will tell you it's not about them even if they suffered.

 

[Aisley]

Every time I load this site, I half expect it to not be there. Understanding the harm they could do, I would still advocate to have a few token pro lifers on here, for the purpose of legitimizing this place.

 

[SilentSadness]

I don't think you're right, @FuneralCry. I think this site is well-managed and won't be going down any time soon. However, suicidal people do of course deserve better than the treatment they're getting, you are right about that. The way people are trying to take down this site is also delusional and disgusting.

 

[ThisIsLife]

If you think about it, by attacking SaSu pro-lifers pretend to save suicidal people by trying to prevent them from talking to each other. It means they want each one of them to be alone. You see the irony here ?

From the moment you understand that there is absolutely nothing rational in their thinking, and that they lie (mostly to themselves) you get to just laugh at it and ignore it.

I agree with your general sentiment, but I think people are "anti-choice" not because of malicious reasons, but because they legitimately think they were doing a good thing.

People legitimately thinking they were doing the good thing have always been the people that have hurt me and others the most and made my life so much worse. Beyond my own experience, history has proven multiple times that such people always do the opposite and destroy everything they don't understand.

Like i said in multiple comments, they're not into a good vs bad philosophy, they hide behind it: it's in fact an ego matter, the hero complex.

 

[Rogue Proxy]

Like i said in multiple comments, they're not into a good vs bad philosophy, they hide behind it: it's in fact an ego matter, the hero complex.

Precisely! Everything in life, including ever single human interaction and relationship, comes at a cost. Remove all the rewards humans gain from preserving life (e.g. social approval, social connections, social status, ego, self-worth, self-esteem, purpose in life, positive emotions, ect.), and they will never bat an eyelash over engaging in these behaviors. There's no such thing as pure altruism.

 

[Twiceler]

Suicidal people are dying. That's the pure logic. Those who isn't dead yet, may be harming themselves in some ways. Most of them don't even want fighting, for their rights or anything. They are fated/doomed in long term, as a fellowship.

Non suicidal people are free to do what they want. The more a person want to live, the more power, autority and ligitimacy he has in THIS world we're living in (there is a correlation I think), especially in relation to those people who is openly saying suicide is may be an option.

I can only wish luck to every user here personally. In particular, the administrator and moderators.