Venting I don’t understand the people who act like wanting to die is something to “recover” from

[FuneralCry]

Because existence itself is the problem rather than the wish to permanently be relieved from it, it's not some kind of "illness" or irrational mindset if one wishes to escape from all future harms in this existence they never even consented to in the first place. It doesn't make sense to me when people use the word "recovery" as what even is there to recover from, there's no recovery from how existence itself is very much undesirable and is the true problem, seeing existence in such a way is simply just being aware. The true absurd thing to me would be actually wishing to delay the inevitable, continuing to exist is just prolonging suffering.

To me wanting suicide is all that makes sense as it's the way to find peace from this futile and burdensome existence filled with risks and endless potential for suffering. All that existence does is create problems and needs that were all completely unnecessary in the first place, it's something so harmful to be a slave to the flesh prison that is the human body as there is no limit as to how much it can torment us.

No matter what I'd always see a dreamless and eternal sleep as preferable to decaying and deteriorating from age, I don't get how one could ever see existence as desirable in the first place. Existence is nothing more than an unnecessary harm that I see as best avoided and I see suicide as the rational solution to find permanent safety from suffering, only the thought of eternally ceasing to exist comforts me.

 

[jbear824]

I really would love to stop existing

 

[struggles_inc]

I want to recover not because I think wanting to die is a sickness. I've been there, it's a logical response for people in many situations. I'm just done with feeling bad. With missing out on things I KNOW I would enjoy if it wasn't for the suicidal thoughts.
My life still sucks in many ways and always will in some, like past trauma that I cannot overcome, but I'm just done being depressed and apathetic to things that I still subconsciously enjoy.
I want to work out, eat good food, follow my hobbies and have interests.
I remember you wrote a comment on my post about cutting wrists. I really appreciate it btw. But after that post I just understood that for me it's not about death, but about escape.

 

[Rhizomorph1]

BBecause existence itself is the problem rather than the wish to permanently be relieved from it, it's not some kind of "illness" or irrational mindset if one wishes to escape from all future harms in this existence they never even consented to in the first place. It doesn't make sense to me when people use the word "recovery" as what even is there to recover from, there's no recovery from how existence itself is very much undesirable and is the true problem, seeing existence in such a way is simply just being aware. The true absurd thing to me would be actually wishing to delay the inevitable, continuing to exist is just prolonging suffering.

To me wanting suicide is all that makes sense as it's the way to find peace from this futile and burdensome existence filled with risks and endless potential for suffering. All that existence does is create problems and needs that were all completely unnecessary in the first place, it's something so harmful to be a slave to the flesh prison that is the human body as there is no limit as to how much it can torment us.

No matter what I'd always see a dreamless and eternal sleep as preferable to decaying and deteriorating from age, I don't get how one could ever see existence as desirable in the first place. Existence is nothing more than an unnecessary harm that I see as best avoided and I see suicide as the rational solution to find permanent safety from suffering, only the thought of eternally ceasing to exist comforts me.

Because my life was awesome before my illness

If my illness goes away and I truly want to leave everything behind il just go live as an ascetic, who are measurably some of the most peaceful, happy, and content people, with virtually no suffering.

 

[Tears in Rain]

Because my life was awesome before my illness

If my illness goes away and I truly want to leave everything behind il just go live as an ascetic, who are measurably some of the most peaceful, happy, and content people, with virtually no suffering.

Live as an ascetic? What does that involve, going off to a monastery for the rest of your life?

 

[exiled]

I've often referenced "recovery" for myself but it never truly was regarding suicide. It was more toward the illnesses that I face on a regular basis that cause me to be suicidal. I would definitely have a greater chance of wanting to exist if my mental and physical illnesses vanished. Those are things I am always going to be seeking recovery from until the day I decide to catch the bus, or the day the bus catches me.

I don't think my wanting to die is what needs recovery. But, if I'm forced into this cruel existence because of my fear of death and lack of resources, recovery is the only other choice to focus on.

 

[Ashu]

It's not that hard to imagine their point of view. It's what we ourselves ask of the normtards, isn't it, that they just try to exercise a little sympathetic imagination.

 

[walkingdead2023]

Because existence itself is the problem rather than the wish to permanently be relieved from it, it's not some kind of "illness" or irrational mindset if one wishes to escape from all future harms in this existence they never even consented to in the first place. It doesn't make sense to me when people use the word "recovery" as what even is there to recover from, there's no recovery from how existence itself is very much undesirable and is the true problem, seeing existence in such a way is simply just being aware. The true absurd thing to me would be actually wishing to delay the inevitable, continuing to exist is just prolonging suffering.

To me wanting suicide is all that makes sense as it's the way to find peace from this futile and burdensome existence filled with risks and endless potential for suffering. All that existence does is create problems and needs that were all completely unnecessary in the first place, it's something so harmful to be a slave to the flesh prison that is the human body as there is no limit as to how much it can torment us.

No matter what I'd always see a dreamless and eternal sleep as preferable to decaying and deteriorating from age, I don't get how one could ever see existence as desirable in the first place. Existence is nothing more than an unnecessary harm that I see as best avoided and I see suicide as the rational solution to find permanent safety from suffering, only the thought of eternally ceasing to exist comforts me.

Psychologically speaking, suicidal thoughts are temporary and can be treated if it's due to mental illness. I have depression but that's not why I want to die. I want to kms because I feel like I don't want to get older and ugly where I'm dependent. I want to kms because I hate life whatever I do I'm not happy and it's not because of depression. I was in grad school where I have no time to even live but I managed to have time to think about death. I wanna know what's after this life I have nothing to lose we work hard to get money, you struggle to find a faithful partner and you eat and sleep. What's in life? To me nothing.

 

[Rhizomorph1]

Live as an ascetic? What does that involve, going off to a monastery for the rest of your life?

That's one way.

Any form of renouncing worldly pleasures (vanity, materialism, status, etc.) for extended periods would count as asceticism.

It can be religious (e.g., Buddhism), or secular.

 

[awaitinglove]

Personally, recovery for me is not about getting rid of suicidal thoughts, it's about not wanting to feel emotional pain to an extreme. I have bpd so (for me) every time something goes slightly wrong my whole world collapses and I lose physical and emotional control. I've been in and out of therapy and can say that having suicidal thoughts will always be part of me. At the highest and lowest points in my life I think about suicide. It may not be consistent every time but they're still there. The suicidal thoughts never bother me, it's just the feeling of having no control over my emotions that gets me. I find comfort in suicide and always will, "recovered" or not.