hypothetically overcoming my fear of heroin

[SufferingInDenmark]

this is a pure hypothetical... but let's say someone had been researching suicide methods for almost 2 years, and the guaranteed ones are too hard to obtain...
or there's other problems with them, for example jumping. someone could hypothetically be worried about accidentally hurting others that are walking or standing under the jumping spot, and the jumper didn't notice them.
so anyway, hypothetically someone was always afraid to do heroin because that person didn't wanna be remembered as a junkie,
and it's not very honorable way to go out.
but maybe someone should just hypothetically get over that whole thing and just say fuck it, because there's a pretty high guarantee it would work.
only problem is that if it fails, then you might become a junkie.
but it would hypithetically need to be done in a high enough dosage.

 

[justbrowsingbutaliv]

Was thinking about this but didn't want my son to feel like I was a drug addict when I'm not when I go.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

Was thinking about this but didn't want my son to feel like I was a drug addict when I'm not when I go.

that's exactly my hypothetical problem with it also

 

[justbrowsingbutaliv]

that's exactly my hypothetical problem with it also

Ugh…. It's such a doubly terrible feeling to both leave someone behind and have to be discretionary because of that very same reason and person. Not because you feel selfish but because you actually care how they feel.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

Ugh…. It's such a doubly terrible feeling to both leave someone behind and have to be discretionary because of that very same reason and person. Not because you feel selfish but because you actually care how they feel.

yep.
i have a lot to comment, but i have always been very careful on this site to not say anything that could possible "convince" or persuasive someone in the wrong direction.
so i'll have to be silent.
but i guess long story short: it all depends on priorities, goods vs bads.

 

[Forever Sleep]

From what I've been told, my Mum was given heroin in the late stages of cancer in hospital. She wasn't into drugs at all. People are given fentanyl in hospital.

But yeah- the concern would be failing I imagine and ending up with cravings and possibly a criminal record if you were caught with a large amount.

There's also the risk of buying it to begin with in sufficient quantity/ quality. I doubt dealers hand over a lethal amount in one go. That wouldn't be good for business! Plus, I guess you'd need to know what to do with injecting it.

I wonder though really. Do people judge too heavily on the method of suicide? Obviously if it directly affects others- witnessing it etc. I wonder though- if they'd be more shocked at someone aquiring heroin over say something like SN. Maybe they would wonder if we had a secret drug problem but I imagine that would quickly be ruled out in the autopsy or police seeing the premesis.

I wonder if one really is more shocking than the other. I can vaguely imagine my family being shocked you can or- could buy stuff online to do it and that you can find out online what you need. I imagine more of them are pro-life than not.

It's kind of cruel though ultimately. Wouldn't it be a relief to know that at least their loved one maybe didn't suffer so much as via other methods? Would they really prefer that they hanged or jumped?

I remember a very brave bereaved Mum came on the forum once and felt at least slightly relieved that- hopefully her daughter hadn't suffered so much at the end. Of course we don't want our loved ones to die but, if they have- isn't it something of a relief to hope they didn't severely suffer?

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

From what I've been told, my Mum was given heroin in the late stages of cancer in hospital. She wasn't into drugs at all. People are given fentanyl in hospital.

But yeah- the concern would be failing I imagine and ending up with cravings and possibly a criminal record if you were caught with a large amount.

There's also the risk of buying it to begin with in sufficient quantity/ quality. I doubt dealers hand over a lethal amount in one go. That wouldn't be good for business! Plus, I guess you'd need to know what to do with injecting it.

I wonder though really. Do people judge too heavily on the method of suicide? Obviously if it directly affects others- witnessing it etc. I wonder though- if they'd be more shocked at someone aquiring heroin over say something like SN. Maybe they would wonder if we had a secret drug problem but I imagine that would quickly be ruled out in the autopsy or police seeing the premesis.

I wonder if one really is more shocking than the other. I can vaguely imagine my family being shocked you can or- could buy stuff online to do it and that you can find out online what you need. I imagine more of them are pro-life than not.

It's kind of cruel though ultimately. Wouldn't it be a relief to know that at least their loved one maybe didn't suffer so much as via other methods? Would they really prefer that they hanged or jumped?

I remember a very brave bereaved Mum came on the forum once and felt at least slightly relieved that- hopefully her daughter hadn't suffered so much at the end. Of course we don't want our loved ones to die but, if they have- isn't it something of a relief to hope they didn't severely suffer?

good points.
i think maybe , depending on the circumstance, that it would be very clear if someone only used such a drug once, to utilize it for suicide,
versus a situation where they were actual drug addicts.
especially something like heroin or fentanyl... if someone is addicted to that, it's extremely hard to hide.
so i think hypothetically, the loved ones would understand that it was only a one time thing but i'm not sure.

 

[Forever Sleep]

good points.
i think maybe , depending on the circumstance, that it would be very clear if someone only used such a drug once, to utilize it for suicide,
versus a situation where they were actual drug addicts.
especially something like heroin or fentanyl... if someone is addicted to that, it's extremely hard to hide.
so i think hypothetically, the loved ones would understand that it was only a one time thing but i'm not sure.

I suspect some families will become obsessive about whatever it was. So- with SN- how did they find out about it? Who sold them it? Why isn't more being done to prohibit it? If they jumped- How did they get access to the site? Why aren't there nets or more cameras up? Why didn't someone stop them? If it's drugs- how did they get them? Why isn't more stuff being done to stop them?

I suspect- if the suicide is especially distressing to them- they will likely focus on whatever the method was and blame everyone else, that it could have been prevented.

I guess we can also try to clear certain questions up in the notes we leave. Why we chose a certain method etc.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

I suspect some families will become obsessive about whatever it was. So- with SN- how did they find out about it? Who sold them it? Why isn't more being done to prohibit it? If they jumped- How did they get access to the site? Why aren't there nets or more cameras up? Why didn't someone stop them? If it's drugs- how did they get them? Why isn't more stuff being done to stop them?

I suspect- if the suicide is especially distressing to them- they will likely focus on whatever the method was and blame everyone else, that it could have been prevented.

I guess we can also try to clear certain questions up in the notes we leave. Why we chose a certain method etc.

right. hypothetically it would just be a good backup method to have, even if it might not be the very best.
and it's so easy to obtain.
i mean someone would need to hit some slimy neighborhoods probably...
or someone could pretend to only be looking for weed, and then buy a little weed,
and then you get to talk to the pusher, and i'm sure he or she could hypothetically point you in the direction of what you/someone would need.

 

[Forever Sleep]

right. hypothetically it would just be a good backup method to have, even if it might not be the very best.
and it's so easy to obtain.
i mean someone would need to hit some slimy neighborhoods probably...
or someone could pretend to only be looking for weed, and then buy a little weed,
and then you get to talk to the pusher, and i'm sure he or she could hypothetically point you in the direction of what you/someone would need.

I guess so. I'm way too square to know though. Drugs always scared me to be honest.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

I guess so. I'm way too square to know though. Drugs always scared me to be honest.

im sure i , hypothetically, would come across as an undercover cop if i went up to someobody to ask them for drugs lol.