Discussion [Hypothetical] What if an apocalyptic event happened widescale and we were right in CTB?

[TAW122]

This is a hypothetical scenario and isn't likely but something that I pondered about.

I am wondering what if an apocalyptic event happened that drastically affected about 90% of the population that caused them to consider CTB and things either continue to get worse, doesn't improve in the foreseeable future. It's a large scale event/or even a chain of events that lead to it. For example, wide scale social problems (riots, civil unrest, famine, natural disasters, and more) that led a country to ruin with already existing problems (poverty, wealth gap, social issues, and more; all compounded) and lead many people to die and/or want to CTB. Or maybe like a nuclear war or other mass scale, horrible event. But we are ahead of the curve and the people who have CTB'd long before everything goes down to shit and are at peace.

What would happen to the people who are still around during an apocalyptic era and they know that the people who CTB'd (before the apocalypse hit) in advance were correct? Would they change their view on life (e.g. "Oh yes, Person ABC was right and ABC has found peace. He/she is lucky to not have to endure this.")? How would society (if it still exists, depending on the apocalypse and many other variables) react towards it?

I know this is unlikely, but it is something that is interesting to think about. What are your thoughts that if something like this happened?

 

[Sensei]

This makes me think of On the Beach, in which the last remnant of humanity waits for the deadly radiation to reach Australia after a nuclear war. Interestingly, the Australian government distributes cyanide pills to the whole population who knows that the only alternative is to die slowly from radiation sickness. One of the bleakest novels I've ever read.

I think most people simply would refuse to accept that they will die and thus not commit suicide. Inmates in extermination camps like Auschwitz and Treblinka knew that they probably wouldn't survive and that they would suffer terribly until they died, but the suicide rate was still not very high. As they say, hope is the last thing that dies in man.

 

[Chalken]

I think such situation would certainly change and affect how people think. Just like people who haven't experienced depression or mental illness can't comprehend how someone would consider suicide, that would most likely change if such a catastrophic situation occurred.

Though humans still tend to cling to life, so many would probably continue on living, but that thought might cross their minds.

 

[BPD Barbie]

It would be a wake up call to so many.

 

[goomsoom]

I think physical pain could make many people overcome their SI and choose ctb.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

That's OVERKILL

 

[jgm63]

My spiritual teacher stated that there will be a monumental wipeout on such a major scale that it will literally transform the human psyche in a deep way. This will eventually allow a new consciousness on this earth....

Spoiler: statements/end

Barry Long Foundation International

(runs over several pages..... hit "Continues" links at end of each page)

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Those in areas apt to get nuked, but not where they'd be so lucky as to get vaporized without even noticing the flash should keep a fast acting ticket in arms reach. "break brainstem in case of emergency"

note: I doubt there's gonna be a nuclear apocalypse, but if you're even more anxious than I am ...

 

[issyishere]

Man id love to be vaporized by a nuke. anyone know where they dropping them?

 

[ctbUniquectb]

They're not but you could go live in a tent in Lopnor China or an apartment in Arlington Virginia

 

[Nnana]

I think suicide could rise. But I think that even in an apocalyptic scenario many people would still cling to life. Not only that, but would keep bringing kids to the world regardless of the horrors. We can't forget that humans are animals programmed to survive and breed no matter what. The enlightened ones are antinatalists/suicidal.

 

[TAW122]

Good responses and yes, I think there will still be some people who choose to survive and try to cling onto (false) hope that things will get better. It's also a part of human nature and instinct to have hope even in the most dire times. Though yes, the people who are gone no longer suffer and whether the world gets worse or better (or much worse before it starts to improve), they are unaffected by it as they are no longer in existence.

 

[ctbUniquectb]

A big piece here is there are a lot of safe assumptions about a person's logistics bring fairly decent even if they're not living in opulent luxury, if they're capable of posting on the internet. The majority of humans live horrifying lives. So, following that logic along, yes things could (almost definitely will) take a (very sharp) downturn. There's a very good chance all that means is the very very low class grows and the very rich class shrinks, and that the class that serves the rich and maintains its position by being kept in fear of absolutely dire poverty becomes miniscule in size.

This class structure was not uncommon throughout "modern" -- recorded -- history and remains in the impoverished states.