Pookie

Pookie

Somebody you used to know.
Oct 18, 2020
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I've wondered how practical this would be as a method. There are so many variables and there's no way of knowing how long it would take you to die if you were to succeed.
Sure, you can take benzos or drink yourself into a stupor and hopefully fall asleep, but what if you wake up in the middle of it with hypothermia already setting in and then you'll still have to suffer.
 
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Bootleg Astolfo

Glorious Bean Plushie
Oct 12, 2020
656
There's always a few people around here who die each year from getting pass out drunk outside at -40C, they're usually found dead in a big snow pile in the morning. Can't tell if they suffered or not, but they seem to have just passed out and never woke up.
 
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whywere

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Jun 26, 2020
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I say NO to hypothermia as a method. Now I live in a cold climate, and back in 1982, yes I am OLD!, my very best friend in the world tried swiming across a small lake with ice still floating on the surface because if he did then a gal was going to have sex with him. I tried my everything to convince him not to do it, but he went ahead anyway. I CAN NOT swim, in fact water over my ankles freaks me out. About midway he stopped swimming, got as ridged as a steel pole and went under. He died, BUT when the medical looked at him afterwards they said he was still breathing as he went down and probably suffered greatly. Just my experience but 38 years later and I can still close my eyes and see it. HORRIBLE. Take care and remember that your family here loves and cares for you!
 
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StuFin

StuFin

Arcanist
Oct 21, 2020
450
Brrrrrrrr. But possibly a peaceful way to go, if you're blind drunk.
 
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Defenestration

Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
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hypothermia by kim carlsson: yes -)
for suicidal method: no
 
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greebo6

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Sep 11, 2020
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I think you get so far and then its not so uncomfortable because you do drift off into unconsciousness quite quickly and then there's no going back.
Its not the worst of worst ways to go by sounds of it.
But I'm no expert.
 
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NightmareTour

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May 13, 2020
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It does work. The first part where you still feel cold is pretty unpleasant, but you could definitely take something to get through that. Once you stop shivering though, you start to stop feeling the cold at all. (in fact, you'll probably start to feel a bit too warm, which is the point where people start taking coats off and things like that) Then you start to become less aware of your surroundings and eventually pass out. At that point, you're a goner unless someone finds you very quickly.

If you've taken alcohol and benzos and it's cold enough, you'll almost definitely skip all of the first stage, and probably all or most of the second stage. Best case scenario, your body temperature will drop enough that you don't wake up at all.

The main thing to worry about is frostbite, which is really unpleasant and can leave permanent, very serious damage if you fail. DEFINITELY start with a coat, good gloves and some warm socks/shoes. It might be slower, but you'll still lose body heat and you'll be unconscious by the time frostbite starts setting in.
 
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Panna

Panna

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Aug 31, 2020
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Hypothermia would be a wonderful way to go, the thing to remember is that you can be afflicted for quite a while and still be saved. The point to mention is if you are extremely far gone and then brought back, you would suffer from potentially devastating damage from frostbite and the like. That being said, if you are able to go to a place where no one is likely to go by for a while, after you get past the unpleasant shivering phase, its quite comfy. It's akin to falling asleep peacefully wrapped in warmth.
 
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NightmareTour

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May 13, 2020
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Hypothermia would be a wonderful way to go, the thing to remember is that you can be afflicted for quite a while and still be saved. The point to mention is if you are extremely far gone and then brought back, you would suffer from potentially devastating damage from frostbite and the like. That being said, if you are able to go to a place where no one is likely to go by for a while, after you get past the unpleasant shivering phase, its quite comfy. It's akin to falling asleep peacefully wrapped in warmth.
Being found is definitely a big issue that I didn't mention for some reason, it's actually why I'm still here. Location and planning is really important because of how long it takes.

Your description is really accurate, though. I remember laying down, warm and sleepy, looking at the lights reflecting off the wet ground while my peripheral vision slowly closed in. Probably the most peaceful moment of my entire life.
 
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Panna

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Being found is definitely a big issue that I didn't mention for some reason, it's actually why I'm still here. Location and planning is really important because of how long it takes.

Your description is really accurate, though. I remember laying down, warm and sleepy, looking at the lights reflecting off the wet ground. Probably the most peaceful moment of my entire life.
I'm jealous, not going to lie, regardless of how the end result was, that sounds so nice. Rather than something messy and stressful like being fully conscious and trying to get the urge up to pull the trigger, or to consciously struggle around in a noose, hypothermia is just so perfect. If only other folks wouldn't interfere.
 
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NightmareTour

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May 13, 2020
398
I'm jealous, not going to lie, regardless of how the end result was, that sounds so nice. Rather than something messy and stressful like being fully conscious and trying to get the urge up to pull the trigger, or to consciously struggle around in a noose, hypothermia is just so perfect. If only other folks wouldn't interfere.
It's probably weird to say this, but if I could go back to one moment in my life it would definitely be that one. Pretty angry at the people who found me though because warming up again is awful.
 
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Panna

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Aug 31, 2020
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It's probably weird to say this, but if I could go back to one moment in my life it would definitely be that one. Pretty angry at the people who found me though because warming up again is awful.
Nothing weird about it, if it's as peaceful and wonderful as you suggest, then I understand.
 
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Pookie

Somebody you used to know.
Oct 18, 2020
1,051
Interesting. Did you drink alcohol when you tried the hypothermia method? How long were you out there for before being discovered and what was the outside temperature?
Being found is definitely a big issue that I didn't mention for some reason, it's actually why I'm still here. Location and planning is really important because of how long it takes.

Your description is really accurate, though. I remember laying down, warm and sleepy, looking at the lights reflecting off the wet ground while my peripheral vision slowly closed in. Probably the most peaceful moment of my entire life.
Interesting. Did you drink alcohol when you tried the hypothermia method? How long were you out there for before being discovered and what was the outside temperature?
 
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NightmareTour

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May 13, 2020
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Interesting. Did you drink alcohol when you tried the hypothermia method? How long were you out there for before being discovered and what was the outside temperature?

Interesting. Did you drink alcohol when you tried the hypothermia method? How long were you out there for before being discovered and what was the outside temperature?
I originally intended to have alcohol but couldn't get any at the time, and it was actually originally planned to be a jump, with hypothermia as the plan B if I couldn't do it, which obviously I couldn't. Alcohol or alcohol and benzos would definitely make it a much smoother experience.

Id say I was probably there for about an hour, maybe an hour and a half. It looks like it was probably somewhere between 2 and 6 degrees celcius at the time, lower temperatures would be quicker, but also have a higher risk for frostbite.
 
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Pookie

Somebody you used to know.
Oct 18, 2020
1,051
I originally intended to have alcohol but couldn't get any at the time, and it was actually originally planned to be a jump, with hypothermia as the plan B if I couldn't do it, which obviously I couldn't. Alcohol or alcohol and benzos would definitely make it a much smoother experience.

Id say I was probably there for about an hour, maybe an hour and a half. It looks like it was probably somewhere between 2 and 6 degrees celcius at the time, lower temperatures would be quicker, but also have a higher risk for frostbite.

I've also considered jumping as an alternative but it'll have to be on impulse. I probably won't have the guts otherwise. Pity I don't live in a high rise building.
 
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NightmareTour

Specialist
May 13, 2020
398
I've also considered jumping as an alternative but it'll have to be on impulse. I probably won't have the guts otherwise. Pity I don't live in a high rise building.
I went to the top of one of those really tall multi-layered car parks. I picked a day when I was at my absolute worst and really worked myself up for it, but just getting myself over the barrier was far more difficult than I thought. The alcohol might have helped a little.
 
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Kat!

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Sep 30, 2020
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Imo I've thought this over a lot. And from what I know, get drunk, get seriously drunk, get so drunk that you can't walk straight. It's most likely going to be painless if you do so. There's something called paradoxical undressing, which is when your nerves are so fried that you start to feel the opposite, like needles all over your body, and so, as you die, you undress because of the heat. If you've been in the cold long enough, you probably have felt this effect in your toes before, but imagine that on your whole body.

Now in most cases where people are drunk, I don't think they undress, which could point to it not being felt by the person. And this is observable outside of death since tons of drunk people almost accidentally die in the cold, not knowing they were freezing.
 
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Pookie

Pookie

Somebody you used to know.
Oct 18, 2020
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Imo I've thought this over a lot. And from what I know, get drunk, get seriously drunk, get so drunk that you can't walk straight. It's most likely going to be painless if you do so. There's something called paradoxical undressing, which is when your nerves are so fried that you start to feel the opposite, like needles all over your body, and so, as you die, you undress because of the heat. If you've been in the cold long enough, you probably have felt this effect in your toes before, but imagine that on your whole body.

Now in most cases where people are drunk, I don't think they undress, which could point to it not being felt by the person. And this is observable outside of death since tons of drunk people almost accidentally die in the cold, not knowing they were freezing.
I suppose drunk people don't do the paradoxical undressing because they're already so numb/out of it from the alcohol. I've read of hypothermia cases where some victims are initially thought to be victims of rape due to the paradoxical undressing.
 
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