Hypothermia

[Salvacion]

What do you think the parameters for this maybe? Length of time required for exposure? Temperature required? As we are nearing some below zero temperatures I amwondering if this may be an option.

 

[Mixk009]

Get some booze, opiates, and maybe benzos and find a secluded spot in the forest. Drench yourself in water and then lay down somewhere and pass out. Unless you sleep walk or saved it should be relatively quick. Temperatures needed are anything below 40F. Lower the better.

And hi all. I didn't die yet. But I'm going to find h and OD on that.

 

[dysfunctional]

Would have to find a way to beat SI, cuz subconsious may take over. Maybe nordic ski way out in the winter woods, then break yout skis so you can't get back regardless.

 

[AveryConure]

I've tried it in -10 degree midwestern weather and fucked it up. My SI was too strong.

 

[Salvacion]

I've tried it in -10 degree midwestern weather and fucked it up. My SI was too strong.

What happened? Were you unable to stay outside?

 

[AveryConure]

What happened? Were you unable to stay outside?

I was drunk but not really drunk enough, and I got extremely paranoid cause I thought I saw a car patrolling the park I was planning to ctb in, so I ended up trying to walk the mile or so back home.

i violently shivered for a while when i got back but after that i didn't get pneumonia or anything and didn't tell my family where i was in all that time.

 

[21Neberg]

Haven't you considered other methods yet? Hypothermia seems to be very hard in terms of overcoming your survival instinct, as @AveryConure said. Why put yourself through all that suffering when hanging may also do the trick?

 

[meowcat]

I would'nt use hypothermia as a single method to ctb.We see too many stories of people who have survived hypotermia even in super cold places like Mount Everest.

 

[Ldog9]

as others have said si would probably kick in. best bet would be to jump into freezing body of water, river or ocean. that would end it minutes.

 

[Sickman75]

My friends friend's mom died this way- hypothermia. Basically drink as much as you possibly can and go pass out in the ditch somewhere. But you have to be really drunk. Probably need to drink alcohol that makes your body warm. Something with cinnamon flavor or something. You want to be warm inside but cold outside. You have to trick the body but you need to pass out from the excessive amount of alcohol you drank. Just get obliterated and lay down go to sleep. That's how it's done.

 

[creationisdeath]

Haven't you considered other methods yet? Hypothermia seems to be very hard in terms of overcoming your survival instinct, as @AveryConure said. Why put yourself through all that suffering when hanging may also do the trick?

I'm strongly leaning towards it because it's so easy. The hard part in my opinion is falling asleep. I'm trying to find a reliable way to induce deep sleep.

On the other hand: god knows how many thousands of party people die peacefully every year. I don't drink, but I wonder how easy it would be to just get absolutely wasted and pass out.

The single risk I can see here is being found. The location has to be really far off. Preferably at night too - it also helps with temperatures.

I'm also thinking about wearing extremely warm gloves and shoes (and underwear) so in case anything happens you don't get frostbite in those sensitive regions. Other than that just taking off your jacket should be more than enough. People really don't stand cold very well. The initial pain seems to be the only problem so being unconscious is necessary. After the first stage of hypothermia you fall unconscious anyway but you have to make it until that point.

 

[creationisdeath]

Yeah I wonder if OTC sleep aids like diphenhydramine would put you in a deep enough sleep to not notice you are freezing...

I made a thread about that if you're interested. I didn't get much response yet, but a person suggested Clonazepam instead of Diazepam like I intended.

But I seriously consider alcohol. People collapse all the time and if you want to die anyway you could just drink a couple of bottles of wine in 5mins. I read that's how most people who pass out did it - they go too fast before they feel the effects and then when they do it's lights out.

 

[21Neberg]

he hard part in my opinion is falling asleep. I'm trying to find a reliable way to induce deep sleep

That's not too hard! Your local pharmacist will probably sell you sleeping pills without a presciption.

 

[Salvacion]

I made a thread about that if you're interested. I didn't get much response yet, but a person suggested Clonazepam instead of Diazepam like I intended.

But I seriously consider alcohol. People collapse all the time and if you want to die anyway you could just drink a couple of bottles of wine in 5mins. I read that's how most people who pass out did it - they go too fast before they feel the effects and then when they do it's lights out.

Where is the thread?

 

[Salvacion]

Do you think it needs to be below zero temperatures or just below freezing to have an actual chance of working.?

 

[Othermind]

Do you think it needs to be below zero temperatures or just below freezing to have an actual chance of working.?

Not necessarily, but it would be advisable.
You basically want to cool your body by keeping wet clothes on, which is miserable, but if you manage to pass out for a few hours you should go into hypothermia even if it's a few degrees without freezing.
I'd say don't bother if the air temperature is above 4 C°

 

[Arak]

@Salvacion ,

There are sources about this, not (just) on this website. I think I did read about this somewhere on the internet. There are lots of variables. Little clothing, extremely low temperature, not being able to call for help/walk to a 'safe' place. I question the advice about wet clothes. Anyway, if you wanted to do this I'd read up on the subject.

I once considered this but learned that the issue of 'remote' (no people within a great distance) and extremely low temperatures was an obstacle. And yes, it can be brutal.

 

[Jiva]

What do you think the parameters for this maybe? Length of time required for exposure? Temperature required? As we are nearing some below zero temperatures I amwondering if this may be an option.

In cold water around zero degrees of celsius human die in cca ten minutes (like on Titanic). (Water kills faster than air). But i like warmness and i hate cold. It is not a way for me.

 

[Sickman75]

I don't know if Titanic was accurate. Look at deadliest catch...they only have seconds and it's over. It has to be very very cold out. Probably below zero temps in order for this to work like you think it should. Otherwise you'll end up with putting black patches of skin from frostbite damage. Like another poster said it is brutal. One of the most brutal ways to go out.

 

[creationisdeath]

@Salvacion ,

There are sources about this, not (just) on this website. I think I did read about this somewhere on the internet. There are lots of variables. Little clothing, extremely low temperature, not being able to call for help/walk to a 'safe' place. I question the advice about wet clothes. Anyway, if you wanted to do this I'd read up on the subject.

I once considered this but learned that the issue of 'remote' (no people within a great distance) and extremely low temperatures was an obstacle. And yes, it can be brutal.

That is true. Humans spread like a virus. It's hard to find a place truly remote. It's possible though.

I've also considered a deep freezer. Last time I got sleeping pills I was out in minutes - so that should be easy.

As for temperatures: From what I've researched you can even (easily) die above 0C, like 4-5C, but the time required to die decreases rapidly with temperature so I'd target anything below 0C.

I don't think wearing wet clothes is helpful. That only hurts you before you fall asleep. Once you fall asleep it doesn't matter that you're dry.

That's not too hard! Your local pharmacist will probably sell you sleeping pills without a presciption.

I'm bad at talking to people but I might give that a shot. I would expect OTC pills to be relatively harmless though? I've had Diazepam before and that knocked me out quickly but it's prescription only.

 

[21Neberg]

@creationisdeath I'm sure he'll sell you some sleeping pills. If he doesn't, simply fake a sleeping problem with your doctor and he will probably give you the prescription. I'm bad at talking to people too, but even I managed to it yesterday at the doctors office. Good luck!

 

[creationisdeath]

@creationisdeath I'm sure he'll sell you some sleeping pills. If he doesn't, simply fake a sleeping problem with your doctor and he will probably give you the prescription. I'm bad at talking to people too, but even I managed to it yesterday at the doctors office. Good luck!

I have an extensive psychiatric record, they're not giving me anything useful. I can get an infinite supply of pills that will destroy your body and mind though! But they don't knock you out, or at least not as reliable.

They are easily available on deepweb markets though. That's another thought I had: Some of these sleeping pills have "death" listed as side effects and seem easy to overdose on. And since some people use them recreationally they are very easy to buy in any amount you want.

 

[Salvacion]

The news broadcast today that hypothermia can occur within 15 minutes of below zero temperatures. I'm sure this is really a scare tactic, but 15 minutes would be a blessing

 

[Redt2go]

The news broadcast today that hypothermia can occur within 15 minutes of below zero temperatures. I'm sure this is really a scare tactic, but 15 minutes would be a blessing

If you're in the water yeah.

 

[creationisdeath]

The news broadcast today that hypothermia can occur within 15 minutes of below zero temperatures. I'm sure this is really a scare tactic, but 15 minutes would be a blessing

F or C?

For the record:
0 F = -18C
0 C = 32F