How to overcome ones fear of what, if anything; comes after we end it all.

[Daryl72]

Basically I know it's a matter of time before I HAVE t end it as all my options have been exhausted and I'm just trying to beat the clock before I wind up facing life on the streets or what could even be worse on the streets. Anyway, anyone here hesitate because they still are concerned about what may be an afterlife? Is it possible, from all I've seen and read, science can't prove it exists. It's just one small thing keeping me thinking will I have a whole new hell on e I'm dead? I really don't think so, but can anyone be completely sure?

 

[card1nal]

I'm still wondering myself! That's one of the big things holding me back. All the possibilities- utopia, dystopia, being suspended in nothingness, reincarnation, ceasing to exist- they're all so intimidating and terrifying. I believe that people's near-death experiences where they see some sort of afterlife aren't reliable. Your brain goes through weird things in the process of dying, so I think a lot of those anecdotes are influenced by an individual's beliefs about the afterlife. What truly comes after, if anything at all, is unknown. If you're concerned specifically about experiencing something hell-like and aren't worried about the other possibilities, I'd say just try to do nice, altruistic things with what time you believe you have left.

I try to get through my day by being as kind as possible to others and trying to be as kind as possible to myself. That's all we can do. In my eyes, forgiveness and kindness are enough to get into the "good" afterlife, if there is such a thing. As for getting rid of the fear, I don't know how.

 

[AbsentMindedHuman]

I dont believe there is anything after. Maybe this is because im not religious, but I am of the belief that It will be just like sleeping. You go to sleep, and there is nothing until you wake up. This will be the exact same except you never wake up. Simple and easy.

 

[davidtorez]

Eternal sleep. Nothing before I was born, nothing when I'm gone.

 

[Artemisia]

I have no idea, I've always been an atheist and I'm sure there's nothing after we die. Afterlife is just copium for people who think they're so important there has to be something more than this life, because how could they turn to nothing? Nowadays, because many people care about animals, they also started believing there may be an afterlife for dogs and cats and maybe other pets. Do fleas also have an afterlife? How about amoebas? Why do you think you matter in the grand scheme of things? When did the afterlife evolve? Somewhere when single cell organisms became multicelular? When aquatic creatures evolved to walk on land? When the first mammals appeared? Or is it just humans? It makes absolutely no sense! It's just a creation, wishful thinking for people who think they're anything special in this huge, infinite universe!

So, don't worry! Chances are your fears are absolutely unfounded!

 

[Tony24]

I don't think there's an afterlife. There's no consciousness, similar to before one's birth.

 

[doneforlife]

I have no idea, I've always been an atheist and I'm sure there's nothing after we die. Afterlife is just copium for people who think they're so important there has to be something more than this life, because how could they turn to nothing? Nowadays, because many people care about animals, they also started believing there may be an afterlife for dogs and cats and maybe other pets. Do fleas also have an afterlife? How about amoebas? Why do you think you matter in the grand scheme of things? When did the afterlife evolve? Somewhere when single cell organisms became multicelular? When aquatic creatures evolved to walk on land? When the first mammals appeared? Or is it just humans? It makes absolutely no sense! It's just a creation, wishful thinking for people who think they're anything special in this huge, infinite universe!

So, don't worry! Chances are your fears are absolutely unfounded!

I have been thinking on similar lines. But may be it depends on consciousness? The higher the consciousness, the more strong the picture of an after life. May be there is an afterlife for amoeba as well, but if amoeba is not conscious enough to perceive the world in this form, how can it perceive after life? Or may be we are too imaginary beings. Mind can't comprehend it's total and full destruction..

 

[Daryl72]

I have no idea, I've always been an atheist and I'm sure there's nothing after we die. Afterlife is just copium for people who think they're so important there has to be something more than this life, because how could they turn to nothing? Nowadays, because many people care about animals, they also started believing there may be an afterlife for dogs and cats and maybe other pets. Do fleas also have an afterlife? How about amoebas? Why do you think you matter in the grand scheme of things? When did the afterlife evolve? Somewhere when single cell organisms became multicelular? When aquatic creatures evolved to walk on land? When the first mammals appeared? Or is it just humans? It makes absolutely no sense! It's just a creation, wishful thinking for people who think they're anything special in this huge, infinite universe!

So, don't worry! Chances are your fears are absolutely unfounded!

Thank you, I was thinking along those lines. It just makes it more clear when you hear it from someone else

 

[Artemisia]

I have been thinking on similar lines. But may be it depends on consciousness? The higher the consciousness, the more strong the picture of an after life. May be there is an afterlife for amoeba as well, but if amoeba is not conscious enough to perceive the world in this form, how can it perceive after life? Or may be we are too imaginary beings. Mind can't comprehend it's total and full destruction..

That's a really interesting concept, but tbh it still seems to me it's just a superior enough conscience, like our human conscience, trying to justify something that has no scientific base at all. I still don't see a purpose for an afterlife (except it's useful to control people by making them believe in either eternal reward or punishment). There are billions of galaxies out there, with millions or billions of stars each, with countless planets around many stars... why would whatever you do in life matter compared to that? And since morals are something only humans are aware of (animals have them too, for instance, most species won't hunt/kill/eat their own kind, because the effort and possible danger is too big and not worth it, that's where humans morals came from), what's the point of an after life for a dog or cat or amoeba? Is there a hell for bad dogs and bad amoebas? Is there a point for a heaven for good dogs and good amoebas? And then there are other human ciivilizations... The ones who believe in reincarnation... The Greeks who saw the afterlife like this sort of gloomy repetition of life... The Chinese who conceive the afterlife like an extremely bureaucratic reflexion of our own world... For me that's the greatest proof that it all comes from our minds, each civilization has a different flavour of it.

 

[Daryl72]

That's a really interesting concept, but tbh it still seems to me it's just a superior enough conscience, like our human conscience, trying to justify something that has no scientific base at all. I still don't see a purpose for an afterlife (except it's useful to control people by making them believe in either eternal reward or punishment). There are billions of galaxies out there, with millions or billions of stars each, with countless planets around many stars... why would whatever you do in life matter compared to that? And since morals are something only humans are aware of (animals have them too, for instance, most species won't hunt/kill/eat their own kind, because the effort and possible danger is too big and not worth it, that's where humans morals came from), what's the point of an after life for a dog or cat or amoeba? Is there a hell for bad dogs and bad amoebas? Is there a point for a heaven for good dogs and good amoebas? And then there are other human ciivilizations... The ones who believe in reincarnation... The Greeks who saw the afterlife like this sort of gloomy repetition of life... The Chinese who conceive the afterlife like an extremely bureaucratic reflexion of our own world... For me that's the greatest proof that it all comes from our minds, each civilization has a different flavour of it.

Very good points, and it does make me feel as if it's more just in our minds

 

[doneforlife]

That's a really interesting concept, but tbh it still seems to me it's just a superior enough conscience, like our human conscience, trying to justify something that has no scientific base at all. I still don't see a purpose for an afterlife (except it's useful to control people by making them believe in either eternal reward or punishment). There are billions of galaxies out there, with millions or billions of stars each, with countless planets around many stars... why would whatever you do in life matter compared to that? And since morals are something only humans are aware of (animals have them too, for instance, most species won't hunt/kill/eat their own kind, because the effort and possible danger is too big and not worth it, that's where humans morals came from), what's the point of an after life for a dog or cat or amoeba? Is there a hell for bad dogs and bad amoebas? Is there a point for a heaven for good dogs and good amoebas? And then there are other human ciivilizations... The ones who believe in reincarnation... The Greeks who saw the afterlife like this sort of gloomy repetition of life... The Chinese who conceive the afterlife like an extremely bureaucratic reflexion of our own world... For me that's the greatest proof that it all comes from our minds, each civilization has a different flavour of it.

Yes. The best thing is to leave it at that. Since there has been no communication established from the other side of the world and no tech available which can do that , it makes sense not to have conjectures. May be science, one day , will be able to break that wall and we can see through the other side. Remember when hearing your loved ones from another part of the world or seeing a live event in another corner of the world was a miracle?

 

[DeIetedUser4739]

Most likely complete nothingness, it's the reason why I can't ctb was hoping there's something better after this life.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I have no idea, I've always been an atheist and I'm sure there's nothing after we die. Afterlife is just copium for people who think they're so important there has to be something more than this life, because how could they turn to nothing? Nowadays, because many people care about animals, they also started believing there may be an afterlife for dogs and cats and maybe other pets. Do fleas also have an afterlife? How about amoebas? Why do you think you matter in the grand scheme of things? When did the afterlife evolve? Somewhere when single cell organisms became multicelular? When aquatic creatures evolved to walk on land? When the first mammals appeared? Or is it just humans? It makes absolutely no sense! It's just a creation, wishful thinking for people who think they're anything special in this huge, infinite universe!

So, don't worry! Chances are your fears are absolutely unfounded!

I thought the exact same thing. Good post

Aso if u read about cells biology molecular cell biology u see their is no difference between cells of different animals or between humans and other animals

For example a brain cell in a fly , mouse or human is basically the exact same thing s neuron is a nueron.

There is no afterlife, reincarnation, , soul god magic none of that

Consciousness is only a temporary illusion created only by the brain of that animal. But its horrible beyond imagining because u can feel the unbearable pain because of this abominable consciousness and sentience . But they constantly tell us the is so beautiful and important the ability to suffer to unlimited lengths

 

[Linda]

Basically I know it's a matter of time before I HAVE t end it as all my options have been exhausted and I'm just trying to beat the clock before I wind up facing life on the streets or what could even be worse on the streets. Anyway, anyone here hesitate because they still are concerned about what may be an afterlife? Is it possible, from all I've seen and read, science can't prove it exists. It's just one small thing keeping me thinking will I have a whole new hell on e I'm dead? I really don't think so, but can anyone be completely sure?

I have ever seen any evidence for an afterlife, so I don't believe there is any afterlife. (Or reincarnation either.) I think the idea was invented by some people who couldn't accept the idea that they will not last forever. They wanted immortality, and since they obviously won't get that here on earth they invented a fantasy world in which they could get it.

 

[Daryl72]

I have ever seen any evidence for an afterlife, so I don't believe there is any afterlife. (Or reincarnation either.) I thik the idea was invented by some people who couldn't accept the idea that they will not last forever. They wanted immortality, and since they obviously won't get that here on earth they invented a fantasy world in which they could get it.

yes that makes sense. All this makes me less concerned about any afterlife when I go, which for my circumstances needs to be soon

 

[iloverachel]

I am sorry you are suffering so much friend

 

[Daryl72]

I am sorry you are suffering so much friend.

I am sorry you are suffering so much friend

Thank you m It's truly sad when all hope feels lost and there isn't anyone who understands the real pain in suffering from. Well except maybe some on here that is.

 

[Coffeandamug]

I have a strong opinion that there is nothing after we die. All these reports about NDEs allegedly point to a continuation of the soul. Firstly we don't fully understand brains but we know it can produce incredible hallucinations. We can't say for sure that the brain was inactive during their "deaths". We can say for sure the brain has an immense capacity to hallucinate. Secondly, suppose there was a continuation of the soul beyond physicality...How do you explain cases of brain deterioration and damage leading to a change in sense of self and behavior in many people? How do you explain the frontal cortex being responsible for a lot of human behavior? Dementia, amnesia and more... I suggest you look up cases of someone completely changing their personality after a frontal cortex accident. Consciousness is a physical phenomenon and nothing else.

 

[Kismet]

I hear you on this, just a matter of time before i'm on the streets as well and maybe that's the trigger I need to make it happen. As for what's after, I love to sleep so I hope its a dream state. Sleeping is the best way to escape (without spending money), so i hope it's something like that, but it's likely going to be nothing at all. Just a bunch of matter being re re re re cycled just like it's always been and always will be

 

[Daryl72]

I hear you on this, just a matter of time before i'm on the streets as well and maybe that's the trigger I need to make it happen. As for what's after, I love to sleep so I hope its a dream state. Sleeping is the best way to escape (without spending money), so i hope it's something like that, but it's likely going to be nothing at all. Just a bunch of matter being re re re re cycled just like it's always been and always will be

Thank you, it's nice to know I'm not alone in my situation It certainly has motivated me to find a way to end it all ASAP, but as I've said many times that's not easy when you have no means and are suffering from may severe metal illnesses like OCD and the worst a form of Agoraphobia.

 

[Kismet]

Thank you, it's nice to know I'm not alone in my situation It certainly has motivated me to find a way to end it all ASAP, but as I've said many times that's not easy when you have no means and are suffering from may severe metal illnesses like OCD and the worst a form of Agoraphobia.

You're very welcome my friend. I too suffer from ocd, but i'm self diagnosed and based on what many have told me over the years. I quit my job and now i find myself terrified to go outside, so I'm sure that is some type of illness as well. I think I'm searching for a reason to end it. I know the method im using is going to be night night, its painless and fast, and cheap. I tried partial hanging once, it was unpleasant and i walked around with a red ring on my neck for a few weeks. Not interested in attempting that again anytime soon. If there was a trophy for failure by procrastination, I would own it. What method have you thought about? I'm in ohio btw, it only helps the depression and fuels the self pity being here.

 

[Daryl72]

You're very welcome my friend. I too suffer from ocd, but i'm self diagnosed and based on what many have told me over the years. I quit my job and now i find myself terrified to go outside, so I'm sure that is some type of illness as well. I think I'm searching for a reason to end it. I know the method im using is going to be night night, its painless and fast, and cheap. I tried partial hanging once, it was unpleasant and i walked around with a red ring on my neck for a few weeks. Not interested in attempting that again anytime soon. If there was a trophy for failure by procrastination, I would own it. What method have you thought about? I'm in ohio btw, it only helps the depression and fuels the self pity being here.

I'm in Maryland. I have no money or resources so my options are very limited. I keep racking my brain and searching online for what everyone in our position wants, a painless and pain free method. I know it doesn't really exist, but because I'm desoerate, I keep searching. I have severe OCD and Major depression. I have self diagnosed myself with the Agoraphobia, seeing as I haven't been able to leave this area for a long time. I have gone outside, just haven't been able to anywhere off the property in a vehicle. This may be more to shame and embarrassment due to my physical appearnce which has really fallen off due to lack of self care over a long period of time. I know we as humans have a survival instinct which will kick in as we make an attempt on our lives as that's another barrier that has kept me from trying. When it comes. down to it, I don't really have many options. There is. large amount of prescription pills here, not mine, but I know the odds of an successful of is very slim I would likely just vomit them up and become violently ill. It seems I'm. destined to suffer no matter what or how I try. I've reached out to the suicide hotline and while I know they have tried to help me with local mobile crisis workers, it seems there still isn't much hope seeing as I'm facing homelessness very soon. I would rather die by my own hands, than just die from heat exhaustion out in the elements. Seem.destined to die one way or the other, as does many here.