How much searching do they do on your phone after a suicide?

[suicidal flapper]

I have a lot of stuff I need to clear if they actually dig through your stuff. Nothing bad just kind of personal. Though I'm still not clear on the limit of their diggings

 

[bloomingdark]

Probably everything,, specially your parents or close realtives, they would like to know everything that lead you to that.

 

[Foreverix]

Why not just back up your phone to a cloud and then reset to factory settings before ctb?

 

[brokeandbroken]

Probably depends on the person. For me none. No one cares. I'd just be another homeless guy who died. Probably just say "natural causes" or some shit so they didn't have to.

 

[sometimesoon]

I have a lot of stuff I need to clear if they actually dig through your stuff. Nothing bad just kind of personal. Though I'm still not clear on the limit of their diggings

It's a good question - I guess if it's a suicide, the police won't go through it unless there is suspicion of something more nefarious going on. As for your family, I'd only take out things that embarrass friends especially if you talked about CTB with others.

 

[needsomeoptions]

Can you not just put a passcode on your phone? Or are police able to get through that? I thought for Apple phones they couldn't

 

[Beyond_Repair]

Can you not just put a passcode on your phone? Or are police able to get through that? I thought for Apple phones they couldn't

I was wondering this too. If you have a code on your phone that nobody else knows, how would anybody be able to access it?

 

[MyTimeIsUp]

Why not just back up your phone to a cloud and then reset to factory settings before ctb?

Police can still get this info off the phone. Deleted info and everything. Completely pointless

 

[cryptoinvestor]

i'm throwing all my devices into the ocean before CTB

Police can still get this info off the phone. Deleted info and everything. Completely pointless

This is correct and can be done even when there is a password/passcode. They can brute-force in with special software.
Mobile device forensics involves the use of specialized tools and techniques to extract data from a mobile device, including both the device's memory and any external storage media, such as a SIM card or SD card. The extracted data can include text messages, call logs, contacts, photos, videos, and other types of digital evidence.

Mobile device forensics is often used in criminal investigations, as well as in civil and corporate cases, to uncover evidence related to cyber crimes, fraud, and other types of wrongdoing. It is also used to recover lost or deleted data, such as photos or text messages, for personal or business purposes.

 

[MyTimeIsUp]

Yes, they will look at absolutely everything on your phone, then it'll be handed back to whoever. Get a new phone if you're really set on doing it, and it bothers you that much.

I understand why you wouldn't want someone invading your privacy, because although I have hardly anything on my phone, over the years I have, and all that deleted shit they will see. I have reset my phone at least 5+ times in the last 3 years, but it will still be there. It always is

I've thought about this before, and I had an idea - reset, and give it to a homeless person far away, or chuck it in a river, bin, leave it somewhere etc.

 

[cryptoinvestor]

The Australian Border Force did a device search when I tried to enter, they literally went through everything on my phone. I felt so violated, I had naughty pics/videos with ex-boyfriends. It was quite traumatising

 

[returntothevoid]

i'm throwing all my devices into the ocean before CTB

This is correct and can be done even when there is a password/passcode. They can brute-force in with special software.
Mobile device forensics involves the use of specialized tools and techniques to extract data from a mobile device, including both the device's memory and any external storage media, such as a SIM card or SD card. The extracted data can include text messages, call logs, contacts, photos, videos, and other types of digital evidence.

Mobile device forensics is often used in criminal investigations, as well as in civil and corporate cases, to uncover evidence related to cyber crimes, fraud, and other types of wrongdoing. It is also used to recover lost or deleted data, such as photos or text messages, for personal or business purposes.

Will just chucking my phone somewhere random do the trick? Does it have to be water boarded? What if no one ever finds it?

 

[Cress]

Police can still get this info off the phone. Deleted info and everything. Completely pointless

They can still clone the phone and get through even if it's password protected. Depending on the provider of phone that you have they might give everything over to law enforcement and unlock the phone using admin privileges when the police come with a warrant.

If you're wondering why they would go to the trouble of looking through your phone if it's obvious that you self deleted to catch the bus. They want to make sure that no one encouraged or contributed to you catching the bus. Aka something similar to Michelle Carter That happened a few years ago. If someone did encourage you to see tb they want to discover That.

However I should say they're probably not going to dig very far. They will look through probably all of your text messages and maybe some social media like Facebook To see who you've been in contact with around the point of your death. They are unlikely to look through absolutely everything On your device however if it doesn't seem relevant. They are not going to check every website you've ever visited Or thoroughly check every file so there's something that they will miss.

 

[Wistful]

Would they look at your internet history too?

 

[Cress]

Would they look at your internet history too?

So when they clone your device they have the ability to look at all of your recent searches. Your device's collectively specific data On everything that you've been doing recently. They will look at all of that but they're unlikely to go back years if that's what you worried about. They have the ability to look at certain keywords that you might have typed as well.

When someone goes to trial for Poisoning their spouse and they look at their device and there's Google searches for "How long does x poison take to kill someone?" or " Is x poison detectable in the bloodstream at autopsy?. They ultimately end up using all of that as evidence for building their case. They will likely do the same for you and see what you've been recently searching and who you've been talking to. Yes they're also likely to see that you've been on sanctioned suicide.

If you could tell us specifically what you're worried about them seeing it might give us more insight if they will take a look at it? If it's your Hidden hentai collection they probably won't care.

 

[Wistful]

So when they clone your device they have the ability to look at all of your recent searches. Your device's collectively specific data On everything that you've been doing recently. They will look at all of that but they're unlikely to go back years if that's what you worried about. They have the ability to look at certain keywords that you might have typed as well.

When someone goes to trial for Poisoning their spouse and they look at their device and there's Google searches for "How long does x poison take to kill someone?" or " Is x poison detectable in the bloodstream at autopsy?. They ultimately end up using all of that as evidence for building their case. They will likely do the same for you and see what you've been recently searching and who you've been talking to. Yes they're also likely to see that you've been on sanctioned suicide.

If you could tell us specifically what you're worried about them seeing it might give us more insight if they will take a look at it? If it's your Hidden hentai collection they probably won't care.

Ah my bad, I meant IP/Router history but I guess the same thing applies right?

 

[SMmetalhead36]

Excellent question!

 

[Cress]

Ah my bad, I meant IP/Router history but I guess the same thing applies right?

Yeah your router has some sort of rudimentary search history of the websites that you visit. People use routers to block traffic from various sources all the time and if it doesn't know where you're visiting how can it know what to block. Law enforcement can always request your information from Google or your Internet service provider.

However everything is going to be way more obfuscated and difficult to put together if your devices aren't available to them. It depends on how much of a pain you make it for them to put it together. If you're sure you're not coming back after your attempt and you really want To be anonymous and cover everything the best thing you can do is to take your router modem and your devices and drop them in a lake.

There is going to be some suspicion surrounding your death but it's going to be pretty evident that you self deleted it's not going to be a Homicide they aren't going to send divers combing the river looking for your devices.

Unfortunately even with that we live in a digital age where almost every website on the Internet collects gratuitous amounts of information about you. Even things like incognito mode And using a vpn to practically nothing for confusing Google on who you are. There's all sorts of clues that they can use to Track your identity.

 

[Ash]

...so don't drop your devices in the sea or lakes and rivers and contribute to pollution and the growing problem of lithium shortage. At least send them off to be reused or recycled.

 

[cryptoinvestor]

...so don't drop your devices in the sea or lakes and rivers and contribute to pollution and the growing problem of lithium shortage. At least send them off to be reused or recycled.

good idea, apple recycles 4 free

 

[Not A Fan]

This is correct and can be done even when there is a password/passcode. They can brute-force in with special software.
Mobile device forensics involves the use of specialized tools and techniques to extract data from a mobile device, including both the device's memory and any external storage media, such as a SIM card or SD card. The extracted data can include text messages, call logs, contacts, photos, videos, and other types of digital evidence.

Mobile device forensics is often used in criminal investigations, as well as in civil and corporate cases, to uncover evidence related to cyber crimes, fraud, and other types of wrongdoing. It is also used to recover lost or deleted data, such as photos or text messages, for personal or business purposes.

I, too believed that having a PIN on my phone, set to delete everything after X number of failed attempts, provided some level of protection.

After being arrested a year ago, I found out I was wrong. I don't know exactly what they use to get in, but if they want to, nothing can stop them. In my case, I think they were disappointed with what they found (or didn't find.)

Amazingly, many people are still unaware how easy it is for the cops to break into any phone.

 

[pulleditnearlyoff]

Why do you care if your dead?

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

I, too believed that having a PIN on my phone, set to delete everything after X number of failed attempts, provided some level of protection.

After being arrested a year ago, I found out I was wrong. I don't know exactly what they use to get in, but if they want to, nothing can stop them. In my case, I think they were disappointed with what they found (or didn't find.)

Amazingly, many people are still unaware how easy it is for the cops to break into any phone.

I've got a Pixel which is set up by default to encrypt memory, so in theory that would be very difficult to decrypt (don't use fingerprint or face recognition of course). They could ask Google for help. (?) Maybe they could still retrieve my internet history though. I'm not sure about data retention laws atm.

 

[fleetingnight]

I honestly wish they wouldn't. I guess I understand why, but I don't want to have to delete everything just to have privacy.

 

[Not A Fan]

I've got a Pixel which is set up by default to encrypt memory, so in theory that would be very difficult to decrypt (don't use fingerprint or face recognition of course). They could ask Google for help. (?) Maybe they could still retrieve my internet history though. I'm not sure about data retention laws atm.

Not sure what google's policy is. Apparently some government or police organizations tried to get Apple to build a "back door" for them and Apple refused; so even though I strongly dislike Apple for just being overrated, I thought using an iPhone was safer for privacy purposes.

There is a feature that is supposed to catastrophically erase the phone's contents after a certain number of consecutive, failed login attempts. But whatever the cops use to break into the phones, it must completely bypass the PIN, somehow. I feel stupid for being caught off guard by it, to be honest... of course they were going to figure out how to break them eventually, even without Apple's blessing... really should have seen that one coming. Damn.

I actually just let my number get disconnected after that and stopped using my phone entirely. It 9 months and a lot of convincing for me to pick up a phone again after that experience.

 

[dtkdave87]

I wouldn't care if I'm gone what they can get out at that point, I'll be gone.

 

[Goghni]

As far as I'm aware, if you have an iPhone, the passcode on that is enough to prevent everyone gaining access outside of secret intelligence services possibly having a bypass they have been able to keep secret from Apple and the public. Just make your passcode is not guessable. Happy to be told I'm wrong! Android is probably a lot more vulnerable.

If your device is connected to Google accounts with your search history then it won't really matter.

• You'll either need to delete the Google account,
• have never shared the account name with anyone,
• possibly have used only a VPN to access the account,
• and hope Google don't share the information upon request somehow else.

Really depends what exactly you were aiming to keep private in the first place. I don't know their exact policy, just guessing what could happen if they wanted answers strongly enough. As other posts have mentioned if they have admin access to your router or contact the ISP for logs they could dig further that way on websites you've visited and possibly find your account on a forum like this using some detective skills.

If they have access to your hard drives and you don't dispose of those, the phone won't really matter to be honest. You probably have all your logins automated.

Most of us don't have the willpower to go through the hassle of living "off-the-online-grid". Only cybersecurity experts bother to maintain a separate profile online outside their necessary identifiable activities.

 

[acey]

The Australian Border Force did a device search when I tried to enter, they literally went through everything on my phone. I felt so violated, I had naughty pics/videos with ex-boyfriends. It was quite traumatising

You said tried to enter, did they turn you back?
Also that's messed up as hell. What prompted them to do that? I guess I'll make sure to back up everything to a cloud before traveling next time..

 

[cryptoinvestor]

You said tried to enter, did they turn you back?
Also that's messed up as hell. What prompted them to do that? I guess I'll make sure to back up everything to a cloud before traveling next time..

They deported me and banned for three years. Searches can be random but they suspected I would engage in sex work while on a tourist visa. Sometimes they look for child porn, usually the suspects are middle aged white men travelling from poor asian countries, they have profiles/patterns to watch out for

 

[restingplace]

I have a lot of stuff I need to clear if they actually dig through your stuff. Nothing bad just kind of personal. Though I'm still not clear on the limit of their diggings

When someone close to me passed from suicide (they were still a teenager when it happened) I was told briefly that the police had gone through all of their devices and searched through recently deleted files,messages,photos etc.

This can be case specific since they were young and this was in the UK however most places carry out the same precautions