The only 'cycle' that 'needs to stop' is your apparent continuation of the argument from here as subsequent attacks on me elsewhere. I don't consider it remotely coincidental that your sudden multiple criticisms of me (1/2/3) have all occurred only after I challenged your arguments (and your feeling of academic superiority) on that thread. From my end, the argument there was fairly philosophical, dispassionate and unremarkable, but clearly it must have struck a chord with you to warrant this kind of ongoing reaction, both against me and now against any member who dares to support me.
I am sorry that you seem to have formed such an inaccurate opinion of me, and then chosen to pursue it in this manner. I'm not chosing to 'Ignore' (block) you at this point, but may well need to do so if your behaviour continues. My reason for being on this forum is the giving and recieving of relevant practical and factual advice. I'm not here for huge clashes, nor joining cliques, nor the need to win an argument at any cost. I really don't have anything to add beyond that.
I never claimed academic superiority but qualification. You are the one to tried to place me in a position of inferiority -- to PN.
@autumnal, it doesn't matter who goes againstwhat you say and do, nor how they approach it, nor how many people say the exact same things about how you treat others and entreat you to change your approach. It is generally your approach to respond that they misinterpret, or they are somehow as in need of correction as those they speak to defend. You are never, ever wrong, and even if you admit to
perhaps having been in error, someone else is still simultaneously wrong and/or you're still justified from a different stance.
I am not attacking you as a person. I am not coming at you with torches and pitchforks and saying to get the fuck off the forum. I am calling out repetitive, cyclic abusive actions, and evasive actions that, to you, support the rightness of every petty, demeaning, and belittling action directed at others.
I spoke out because I'm fed up with the behavior. I spoke out because when I see you smack down an undeserving other, it hurts and pisses me off to the point that I might as well be taking part in it if I don't speak up.
I have dealt with taking responsibility for my thoughts and emotions in response to how you act on this forum. Whatever mods allow, I have no control over. I cannot control you. I recognized I have two options. The first is to speak up and to step up. The second is to accept that this has had no effect, to accept, and to ignore for my own well-being. That second one is a challenge. Sure, I feel better if I don't see it happening, but lots of folks still feel like crap for getting treated so disdainfully, and for having witnessed the disdainful treatment of others. So I'll see about the second option.
I could give a flip if you ignore me. We don't PM. I publicly address your public actions. And you're not the only one I'm talking to when I do. What you don't hear -- what you acknowledge yet consistently shrug off in a variety of defense moves -- are the many different people who have all tried to get through to you, to respectfully ask you to stop treating others as you do, to appeal to your reason, to appeal to your compassion.
My opinion of you is inaccurate to you. I'm confident in my capability to accurately perceive and interpret your actions, I know derision and belittling when I encounter them. So don't feel sorry. I'm just fine in that regard.
I haven't given up hoping that someone will get through to you, or that you'll be willing to allow someone to. When and if I do give up, I likely won't give up on speaking out, because it benefits those who feel uncomfortable and aren't yet confident in their own assessment of discomfort. You act how you act. It is not kindness. You are not a victim here. You are the one victimizing. You have at every moment the choice and the opportunity to stop doing it. I hope you'll take that option. As I've said before, you have value, I'd like to be able to enjoy it free of things like post 6, and so many more aggressions nearly every day. I am not attacking you,
@autumnal, you attack others, just as you did on this thread,
with zero provocation, and I am repeatedly appealing to you -- with reason, not abasement -- to stop.
Edit: I'm willing to concede there is a gray area with regard to post 6. It's when taken in a larger context of consistent shaming and negation that it's difficult to believe you were intending to let off a little steam with some humor. Humor can be also used to shame, or to get someone back in line. I've done it myself. In the larger context of how you express yourself on the forum, it wasn't "I'm laughing with you," or "I'm laughing at all of us because we're so adorably serious," in this particular thread it was "I'm laughing at what you presented and even followed up by presenting the fear and intent behind it."
I've said many times I am not perfect. I know that criticism is a magnet for both deserved and undeserved criticism, rather than the constructive purpose I have at heart: a focus on consistently demeaning and negating treatment in the form of comments, graphics, and memes, with a goal for all of us to bring value to one another, which in many ways you can and do. (And sometimes humor is of great value, depending on both when and how it is presented.)
