Discussion How do you know if you wanna truly kill yourself when you're depressed?

[rs929]

Since depression affects your cognition, how do you know if you're suicidal because you really find suicide a rational choice, or it is a symptom of depression speaking?
I know there is a subgroup of people that aren't depressed but still want to die, so this is aimed to depression sufferers (which I suspect is the majority of suicidal people)

 

[offbalance]

For me I just think of the rational reasons I want to kill myself and I don't think they can all be characterized by depression. For example, I think despair is a natural response to this world. If the feelings match the facts is it really an illness?