TragedyBornCrimson

TragedyBornCrimson

I accept my eternal punishment
Oct 19, 2023
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I have always been interested in the spiritual world and the afterlife, more so than reality. I was also raised Christian so part of me is terrified that God won't forgive me for Ctb, based on how the bible says he will judge.

However as I have looked through near death experiences, majority of them seem positive where the experiencer feels more love than they have ever felt in their lives and they obtain an understanding of everything. A common theme I see is that our souls chose to come to earth to fulfill a purpose and that souls go through many different life times. I am terrified that those who ctb will be sent to hell or be forced to reincarnate to learn whatever our souls wanted to learn. I find it hard to believe that I would chose to be in the situation I am in, many other people would agree. Usually I would over look peoples stories about seeing God or the after life but the similarities between stories make it hard to deny imo.

What is your opinion on nde's and what do you expect to see when you ctb?
If given the choice to reincarnate would you?
If God does exist what questions would you ask him?
 
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TANETS

TANETS

Droplets of rain rest on the faces like tears
Nov 11, 2024
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A lot of nde stories are hoaxes for religious grifting (like the heaven is for real book kid.) but as for the ones that are real, they vary from culture to culture . I recommend researching this because it is fascinating. For example, in India, ndes more commonly revolve around Hindu mythology rather than Christian. So instead of seeing Jesus, they report seeing Yamraj and other Hindu deities. https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual...oads/sites/360/2017/01/STE22NDEs-in-India.pdf

It's an example of culture bound syndromes (very fascinating topic.) so I wouldn't get paranoid about hell actually existing over ndes.

If I had choice to reincarnated, maybe I would. But in a very very long time from now.
If god exists I wouldn't ask him anything. Because clearly he was just bored when making this shit show called earth lol
 
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divinemistress36

Illuminated
Jan 1, 2024
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My friend had an nde and said it was all love . I like watching ndes on youtube. Nobody reports there is a Hell this is made up by Abrahamic religions. Apparently our higher selves dont have an ego so we chose to reincarnate to learn different lessons for soul growth. Those that commit suicide feel bad about it when they have a life review but they move on its just checkin out early on their soul contract or whatever no judgement from source. Not saying this is true just what is reported
 
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Marco77

Marco77

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Aug 18, 2024
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Which are always life experiences.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
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I think NDEs are absolutely stupid and don't conclude anything. I have no idea as to how people believe in NDEs. There's so many flaws with it and one major flaw of it is that the NDE happens to coincidentally align with whatever they believe in
 
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CantDoIt

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Jul 18, 2024
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I think it's hard to say, but I choose to believe. They're said to be realer than real, just like waking up from a dream is realer than than the dream. It's easy for us to tell the difference and I trust people with NDEs can tell the difference between here and a higher reality.

As for hellish experiences, I think a lot of those are concocted for the purpose of conversion. For those that aren't, I believe mindset at death matters and one can call for help to be released from a bad mindset.

I will probably regret it I ctb but I think my ego bit off too much.

Also, I think the "soul" usually chooses to reincarnate when one dies prematurely but I don't think it's a punishment or that it's necessarily harder than before. I don't know that I would ask God anything.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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What is your opinion on nde's and what do you expect to see when you ctb?
NDE's could very well be a result of chemical reactions in our brains when we die. Nobody ever came back after they really crossed the line to the "other side".

Whatever "conscious life" is - we don't know what makes certain combinations of atoms conscious. Mass = energy and energy = mass. Everything is being recycled over and over again on earth and in the universe and one day everything will die even the universe. Death can't be sth bad it's evolution.

If given the choice to reincarnate would you?
No.

If God does exist what questions would you ask him?
Why do you create me if you already know that I will commit suicide? Why did you not interfere and let me succeed in life? Why did you not let me die in my sleep if you already knew I would suffer even more the next day?

Well, if a god existed at all and if this being was almighty it would create a world that is perfect for him not a world that is hell and pushed people to suicide just to enjoy them suffering even more in hell ... what a sadistic god that is.
 
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Schmopo

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Mar 5, 2024
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A common theme I see is that our souls chose to come to earth to fulfill a purpose and that souls go through many different life times. I am terrified that those who ctb will be sent to hell or be forced to reincarnate to learn whatever our souls wanted to learn.

What I find with this thought is reincarnation as a means of punishment for failing to learn collapses in of itself. Is the soul independent of the person or are they one together? If so, what if that person's personality changes? What if the person deduced what they learned living life and they were equally pragmatic between good/evil, love/hate etc but the soul failed to learn, is that the fault of the soul or the person? And even if to reincarnate, how can the soul learn anything by going into somebody else entirely that is ultimately a reset of progress? Why suffer and burden the person and/or soul with repeated exposures to the worst (or even the best) things in life to atone and anoint the soul successfully learning something to then ascend?

Billions upon billions of souls walked the earth in humanity's existence, what else is there to learn that the rest have not? Does this extend to every living thing in existence? What do they have to learn and why? Trillions of souls at that rate. It reminds me of an episode of Futurama of flying brains scouring through the entire universe for information to then feedback the information to a gigantic central brain to rule the universe.

To me, reincarnation as a means of punishment is victim-blaming people and serves as punishment for...what? Reincarnation to me strips individual lived experience and autonomy of people's lives that amount to what I think is worse than nothing. If my soul was born to a new family and I ascended and I'm met with two different families, who do I go to? Would they be accepting of my choice and would they unify with them too?
 
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ForgottenAgain

ForgottenAgain

On the rollercoaster of sadness
Oct 17, 2023
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NDEs always reflect whatever the person believes in. So that, plus the mess that our brains go through when dying will result in experiences related to religion to people who are religious, experiences related to peace to the ones who aren't religious but feel they deserve peace, etc.

The only person who knows what death is like is the one that is dead and they can't talk so there's no way of knowing.

My personal belief is that there's nothing afterwards and, whilst dying, the brain will go through whatever process it needs to go through. I sort of see it like a program shutting down: destroying spawned entities, clearing out variables. I find it amusing that maybe during that shutdown process it is clearing out memory and that's why you may see a flashback of your life.

The internal garbage collector just doing it's final work of collecting and clearing up all those variables before finally calling ShutDown().
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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I'll never believe in any afterlife nor reincarnation.
 

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