Help How do i overcome the fear?

[Ay_Vex]

..Hey,my life has been very shitty since all my friends forgot me..and my gf wanted a "pause" just cause there are 200km beetwen us,and she doesnt have time for a long distance relationship even thought i came up with the ideea to visit her every week..she didnt wanted that, she says she still loves me as much as before,but we speek a few words a day.At start i understood her problems with her mom etc..but now i just think she doesnt want me anymore..since she s online on ig all the time and on her phone but just ignores me.We want to move toghether in 2-3 years..but im losing hope in her,she was my only source of happines since my mother died 2 months ago and my dad left me when i was a child.I want to die so muuuch but im so scared..what if i fail? Im scared of doing it..how do i get lose of this feeling?

 

[supermario]

If the main reason you wish to ctb is because your gf may leave you, I strongly suggest you reconsider. IMO external factors however shitty should not be a reason to kill yourself. These factors can always change, sometimes in a heartbeat as long as you're still healthy. Our greatest asset in life is our health (physical and mental). With it ANYTHING becomes possible.

Just my two cents.

 

[Rational man]

Maybe you need to work on your insecurity, which is understandable after what you've been through. Your gut feeling maybe right about gf. But honestly, two people in love find a way to compromise and connect. Gf may leave or you can leave. We make choices don't we !?

 

[Ch92921]

If the main reason you wish to ctb is because your gf may leave you, I strongly suggest you reconsider. IMO external factors however shitty should not be a reason to kill yourself. These factors can always change, sometimes in a heartbeat as long as you're still healthy. Our greatest asset in life is our health (physical and mental). With it ANYTHING becomes possible.

Just my two cents.

Stupid comment. External factors can really be a reason to be ctb.

 

[supermario]

Stupid comment. External factors can really be a reason to be ctb.

Such as?

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

You could always use the fear of what your life would be like if you don't go through with it to outweigh the fear you feel about it. If that fear doesn't seem to even come close to the same level then maybe reconsider. Choose the option you fear less, whichever that may be. If you really fear dying more then you might just have to directly face the fear you might have that you just might have to move on from her or something. Hope this helps.

 

[Ch92921]

Such as?

Like these Jews who coulndt stand anymore the conditions in the concentration camps or

If some loses his job, wife and family abd gets huge debts. Such a guy has its reason to ctb.

 

[TheAmazingCriswell]

IMO external factors however shitty should not be a reason to kill yourself.

What would you consider a valid reason?

 

[boc]

I don't think the point of this forum is to debate what's a valid reason. Each person's own decision is their own and what is valid to one person may not be to another. I think we should support OP but recommend he take some time to try and turn things around. But at end of the day, his body, his choice.

OP sounds like you're in a real tough spot. I feel for you. I don't know how to get over SI either and take the plunge. For me getting N was a game changer, and made me feel like I had control again. Take some time and think through things, but you can start preparing your method and such if you're certain you want to go down that path eventually.

 

[supermario]

What would you consider a valid reason?

Debilitating physical or mental illness that prohibits you from changing your current situation. This is just my opinion of course. I'm a sound believer that if you're sound mentally AND physically, there is always something you can do - or should try to do - to improve your situation.

 

[TheAmazingCriswell]

I don't think the point of this forum is to debate what's a valid reason. Each person's own decision is their own and what is valid to one person may not be to another.

This is exactly the point of this forum, because most people don't believe that there are any valid reasons at all. The viewpoint you express in your second sentence should be common sense, but unfortunately it is far from it.

Debilitating physical or mental illness that prohibits you from changing your current situation. This is just my opinion of course. I'm a sound believer that if you're sound mentally AND physically, there is always something you can do - or should try to do - to improve your situation.

I have a few things to say about that, but this is probably not the place for it. I would also have quite a lot to say about this:

Our greatest asset in life is our health (physical and mental). With it ANYTHING becomes possible.

This is obviously wrong when phrased in such general terms.

 

[Ch92921]

Debilitating physical or mental illness that prohibits you from changing your current situation. This is just my opinion of course. I'm a sound believer that if you're sound mentally AND physically, there is always something you can do - or should try to do - to improve your situation.

You are right I have the same opinion.

Of course there are people who can ctb just because of very weak SI, but these people rare.

Brain is complex, you can eliminate SI of some people just by brainwashing them, see sects mass suicide.

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[supermario]

Anyways, I want to apologize to the OP for seemingly downplaying his situation. I was trying to convince him that he should reconsider ctbing based on the info he has provided, but the fact is I don't have all the facts.

 

[Death is beautiful]

You are right I have the same opinion.

Of course there are people who can ctb just because of very weak SI, but these people rare.

Brain is complex, you can eliminate SI of some people just by brainwashing them, see sects mass suicide.

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I wish I'd been brainwashed as well. Like Muslim shahids who kill themselves for 70 virgins or something like that

 

[Nolife33]

This is why N needs to be legally sold at stores.

 

[benzoseruinedme]

Where can I find out about knots to use for hanging

 

[FuneralCry]

Of course we have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing. Nobody needs to justify their reasons for leaving either. I think in regards to fear, of course suicide is very difficult as humans are programmed to survive and methods can fail. None of us should have to resort to methods that could fail in the first place. We all deserve a peaceful exit at a time of our own choosing.However to reduce risk of failure, knowledge and planning of the method is needed.

I believe that at least in my case I will reach a point of desperation where I cannot take anymore, and it will be a feeling deep down that I know it will be time for me to leave. Anyway, I wish you the best.

 

[Ay_Vex]

Hey,thx for the replays it means a lot,i do understand that by what i said you can say that my problem is about my relationship but its more,ik i made it like that was the whole reason but not,is just very frustrating when she ignores me. even when i want to talk about my problems,and i dont have anyone to talk to so i kinda let it out,cause every time i want to talk to her about my suicidal thoughts and that i feel she might not love me she starts "screaming" "Oh you want to get rid of me?" or "Don't you think i have my own problems?" or "Suicide isnt the solution,i have problems too and if you try to kill yourself ill do it too" and i stopped talking with her about those problems cause i had a feeling in the end those will be her reasons to broke up with me for real.And the thoughts of killing myself are just eating my mind i tried taking serotonin pills 2 months almost 3 but didnt saw any effects so i stopped,I cant find any jobs..i dont have anyone to support or help me i feel like there is nothing i can do to make my life better