Discussion how common is depression "without any" causes?

[_Minsk]

i really don't like the term "chemical imbalance" which some docs use. for me it sounds like a lie to justify selling ad's to everyone, while ignoring that maybe the system (work etc) contributes to depression. or vitamin deficits etc. does anyone here has this type of depression, where no underlying issues exist, like financial struggles, health issues, seeing life for what it is, trauma, feeling ugly, or other similar causes?

 

[Mr2005]

This is why I know I'm not mentally ill. There's very good reason for me feeling like this

 

[Ren Elsie Jewelria]

Yes, uncurable clinical depression since I was 15 y-o.

 

[BitterlyAlive]

I honestly used to believe there was no reason for me to feel this way. Then I redpilled myself and realized I actually have lifelong trauma. Mm. :/ My brain was in heavy denial.

 

[BRAINWORMS]

Endogenous depression here. I have an awesome support network and no discernable major trauma. I'm perma-sad for no reason.

 

[Mm80]

i really don't like the term "chemical imbalance" which some docs use. for me it sounds like a lie to justify selling ad's to everyone, while ignoring that maybe the system (work etc) contributes to depression. or vitamin deficits etc. does anyone here has this type of depression, where no underlying issues exist, like financial struggles, health issues, seeing life for what it is, trauma, feeling ugly, or other similar causes?

Can really relate to this. I used to be depressed and the doctor or therapist woukd be trying to work out why and there just wasnt a tangible reason.
Could it be as simple as we dont have a brain that works very well in relation to moods?
Some people have faulty pancreas and get diabetes, or a faulty heart etc

 

[esse_est_percipi]

"chemical imbalance" which some docs use. for me it sounds like a lie to justify selling ad's to everyone

yes
It's a win win situation from their point of view.
A facile, vague diagnosis for docs to reel out, which comes with the added 'bonus' that the 'solution' involves contributing to annual net profits of big pharma companies. A handy little scheme.

I'm not saying ad's don't work for anyone, but rather that the aetiology and resolution of mental issues is usually more complex than the 'chemical imbalance' labelling > pills=solution algorithm suggests.

 

[MrAsclepius]

The original version of 'chemical imbalance' is actually based on science. But yes, people discovered they can take advantage of illness and make it a hot commodity. The phrase is really overrated and without talking about the intricate details of an individual's illness it's an empty statement.

 

[Ghost2211]

Generalized depression is so much harder to treat. Since there is no obvious cause things like therapy tend to not help the same way working through issues does, and a lot of people will be med resistant. I don't think all of us are wired to be happy. I would like to say mine stemmed from child abuse, but being honest with myself I've been depressed from earliest memories. I can be happy, but baseline mood is sad.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

The original version of 'chemical imbalance' is actually based on science. But yes, people discovered they can take advantage of illness and make it a hot commodity. The phrase is really overrated and without talking about the intricate details of an individual's illness it's an empty statement.

Yes, I also find it strange that doctors prescribe all sorts of powerful drugs so easily, without having the slightest idea of what's going on in the brains of patients in terms of neurochemistry.

But it must just come down to some vague chemical imbalance according to them (although I know research and studies suggest there's a correlation between some mental illnesses and imbalance in neurochemistry), so they're willing to gamble with the long-term health of the brains of their patients based on indirect verbal evidence.

I could understand the prescription of drugs if they were required beforehand to do specific tests to see what's really going on in the brain of each specific patient to know exactly which drug is required, but they don't do that because it would take too long and would waste too many resources.

People's lives are frivolous and just means to an end for them....until suicide comes into the equation, in which case everything within the state's power is done to ensure the continuance of life at all costs, including the removal of all the most basic freedoms of self-determination. It's an absurd state of affairs.
This whole world is insane and is only geared towards profit. I'm leaving soon.

 

[Quinlor]

I love the idea of dying for a lost causes... but OK you are talking about other think.

 

[shorecomingsee yah]

i think there is a reason for all depression the depression colors your memory so you dont have to deal with all the pain if it wernt there. its kinda like a naturall sedative drug
also grief is like that to you kinda just remember the good parts of your past but everything now feel so meaningless

 

[Sherri]

They call depression by many names today, my doc wanted to change my benzos for schizophrenic pills to sleep. I said no thanks sir. I'll stick to my benzos.

 

[Lordsudbury]

I have depression as an after effect of my own poor decisions, reflection on them, trauma caused by them and the personal loss endured because of them; it's a violent spiral of guilt, shame and the loss of self worth and identity. Very difficult to live through.

 

[draw a circle]

idk is it possible to be suicidal without being depressed? i don't think i'm "depressed" by definition but i do want to die. my life has been good (a supportive family, no poverty, good friends, good health, nice face) but since i started my thesis i've been wanting to die bc i wanted out but i couldn't. i did start thinking about death around high school age tho, and back then i have nothing except stress maybe. i heard people could be suicidal out of anxiety tho so maybe that was the problem. i never got diagnosed though lol so i don't wanna claim i have anything. (do i make sense)

 

[Wayfaerer]

This whole world is insane and is only geared towards profit.

Yes, everything. Even things you wouldn't typically think would be about money, is about money. Doctors are supposed to "do no harm" but that's just a meme, they're all about money. Hell, even charities are corrupt of all things! You have to do diligent research before donating to any of them which is just really fucking sad.

 

[Depressedbitch2020]

So, I've had depression since I was 12, been attempting suicide since I was 12 as well. Nothing seems to help but I also don't have a reason for being depressed. I'm literally living my dream life right now and I still want to yeet myself off a bridge all day every day. is this what incurable depression looks like?

 

[GravityUtilizer]

I get more depressed thinking what may or may not have caused my depression.

 

[schopenh]

What's very intriguing is how common resilience to depression is despite exposure to one or even multiple risk factors. I think it's something as high as 90% of the non-depressed population will experience at least one risk factor and then there are big chunks with 2-3 and you get some people who were abused as a child, have a stressful job and drink regularly who are not depressed as well.
This is why the most popular hypothesis about depression have a biological, psychological and social component. It's probably that people are prone to depression due to their genes and sometimes environment can influence its severity, sometimes not at all.
I had a partner who had a loving family, no childhood trauma (I mean, you had to scrape the barrel to find it - which her psychologist did *sigh*), didn't drink or smoke, ate healthy, exercised regularly, (edit: she was very conventionally attractive as well), lived in a warm sunny country, had a well paying and not too stressful job, stars were aligned and she was absolutely destroyed by anxiety and had mild depression

 

[itachi of death]

Clinic depression since 13, bi polar random fits of anger and depression seeps into my brain eating my soul,through my consciousness

 

[laura fines]

i really don't like the term "chemical imbalance" which some docs use. for me it sounds like a lie to justify selling ad's to everyone, while ignoring that maybe the system (work etc) contributes to depression. or vitamin deficits etc. does anyone here has this type of depression, where no underlying issues exist, like financial struggles, health issues, seeing life for what it is, trauma, feeling ugly, or other similar causes?

this is my case
i have family, i have some money
to be honest nowadays i don´t have friends..... my desease causes i am indoors, and i dont want do anything, i have no desires...
i feel horrible, the first thing that i think in the morning (when i open my eyes) is ...
omg... another shitty day
the thing is i believe this is a depression,
if you feel sad because you haven´t job, your girlfriend have left you, or another issues
you maybe can solve it