Venting How can society be so cruel in the name of kindness?

[Falling_apart]

It pisses me off that there are quick and painless methods that are impossible to obtain because society thinks it has to protect us from ourselves. What gives you the right to force us to live a life we find unbearable? They think they're being kind? And that places like this are cruel? I don't hate anyone here and I take no pleasure from the thought of any of you taking your lives. I feel so sorry for you knowing that you're suffering the same agony I am. But if you decide you can't go on I have to respect that, it's your decision at the end of the day.

 

[Forever Sleep]

You have a very fair point. The problem though is- are all suicides well thought out and rational? If humane methods suddenly become available, how do you prevent a 13 year old who's upset because they failed a maths test getting hold of them or, someone off their face on drugs or in a period of psychosis?

I imagine if assisting a suicide was legalised in any form- including allowing humane methods to be freely available, it would have to come with a whole lot of gatekeeping.

Even if they were especially generous and allowed everyone over the age of 18 of sound mind access, we'd still have our families to convince. How many parents would let their offspring go freely?

I think some members do have this vision of nembutal being available over the counter to anyone who asks. Yet- practically- how long do they think that would last? Surely, after the first 18 year old or younger that did this without their parents knowledge would create a massive stir. There would be panic wordwide amongst parents- surely?

Maybe I've read this wrong and you had more of a regulated system in mind but I'd say- fair or not, it would only be a tightly regulated system that would be introduced and accepted. I'd also hazzard a guess that it would only 'benefit' a tiny fraction of the population who are suffering- sadly.

 

[Darkover]

The way society handles these situations, often placing restrictions on personal autonomy in matters of life and death, can feel incredibly unjust—especially when you're struggling with unbearable suffering. It can seem like there's no respect for the deep anguish some people experience, and being unable to access a peaceful exit when you're in that kind of distress only adds to the torment.

It's true that many people who are in immense pain, whether physical or emotional, find it hard to understand why others are forced to continue in a life that feels like a never-ending battle. The conflict often comes from differing values about life, autonomy, and suffering. While some believe it's out of a duty to protect, others—like yourself—see it as a way of prolonging misery.

I understand that you're not taking any pleasure from the suffering of others, and your respect for individual decisions is deeply humane. It's a difficult and personal journey, one that sometimes feels isolating when society doesn't offer the empathy or freedom to choose one's own path.

 

[FuneralCry]

I understand, I'll always see so much cruelty in how we exist in this horrific reality where suffering is seen as to force and prolong no matter what, it's just so horrible and painful how I'm denied the option to die painlessly even know I never would have chosen to exist. I see human existence as the most futile and torturous burden, the peace of an eternal dreamless sleep is all I hope for, what I find so terrifying is how trying to die can go wrong and lead to way worse suffering, I just wish I could simply choose to stop suffering, I'd never wish to exist at all and I'd always prefer to not exist than to suffer all for the sake of it in this existence just to die in agony tortured by old age, I'll personally always find it so dreadful to exist.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

It's ridiculous oppression. We all will die anyway so they want to force those that are in unbearable pain to keep suffering extremely all for no objective reason.

They stole our Rights including the right to move away from unbearable pain in a guaranteed painless quick easy way .. they made all guaranteed suicide methods into crimes.

Nothing matters except avoiding constant unbearable pain or extreme suffering.

The reason they have tortured people all throughout history is because pain is so bad that they can make people do anything to avoid that pain

No one can convince me there is a reason why I have to want to live another minute even if suffering were not possible.

Much less that there is something that I should risk the worst pain possible for

But suffering and pain problems are unavoidable in this entropic universe and in this abomination called DNA base life

Life is meaningless suffering even if I thought i was this important person like many do , but even less meaningful knowing I'm only 30 Trillion cells, just chemical reactions a machine a bug

But horrifically I'm also a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain : how is this beautiful and not an abomination

IMO they seem to have most people thinking they are ethereal invulnerable important immortal beings in an amusement park . While ii see a fragile decaying vulnerable creature walking a gauntlet in a torture dungeon, an abomination as I described a brain that can suffer unending extremely Brain cells

Some people picked up and agreed with some of the things I posted. But on other things I posted like a human is just cells , that pain is a billion time worse than u can image ( read about the history of torture) I guess nobody knows these but any internet research on what is life will show it's just cells.