how big is the role of your worldview when it comes to wanting to ctb?

[_Minsk]

hi, to what degree contributes your view on this world (may it be good or not so good) to wanting ctb for you? (sorry for writing it so complicated)

 

[BitterlyAlive]

Hey, @_Minsk. My worldview is a huge contributing factor. I'm ashamed to admit it because I'm a Christian and a lot of it is...well, people and the trends of the world we live in. I should be brave and fight to live and better the world, I should be putting my trust in God.

 

[stillweary]

I wrote something about this earlier. I actually like myself. The world we live in is complete and total trash. Nothing I've ever exhausted myself in attempting has ever managed to budge the needle. This place is horrible. It doesn't matter what you try. I don't have it in me to just keep being fake and pretending that the world we live in isn't an abomination. Telling the truth and trying to fix things only gets you ostracized.

 

[Mistake of Nature]

My worldview plays a major role in my desire to CTB.

I believe life is inherently full of suffering, that it is meaningless and pointless, and that the world is becoming increasingly cruel and uninhabitable (e.g., climate change, global political landscape, lack of compassion we have for one another).

 

[Nymph]

Huge degree, this works is filled with violence, greed and evil. People getting raped everyday, trafficked, sold for organs... murderers, shooters, abusive households, people abusing animals, deforestation, global warming...I could go on but I'm just disgusted by everything that's going on in the world. I don't want to live in a world where all of these things happen everyday and we have no affect on it. I can't do anything to stop it. I hate it here

 

[nitroautnz]

This world is fucked, but not a major reason for me. I'm just tired of beeing myself, tired to try to fit in. To have a fucking brain that always go on and on and on ....

 

[meerpasta]

The fact that seemingly no organism can sustain themselves without exploiting another organism makes me think life on earth is a rotten concept at the core. You could say it's not the same for plants and amoebas without any consciousness being used for sustenance but it's that basic ecological system that complex living beings that can feel and cause suffering grow on top of. And our collective progress has just created large scale suffering all over for every species, I think the entire planet should CTB, but that's beyond me so I'll just do it myself instead.

 

[BitterlyAlive]

The fact that seemingly no organism can sustain themselves without exploiting another organism makes me think life on earth is a rotten concept at the core.

Dang, good observation.

 

[death137]

Hey, @_Minsk. My worldview is a huge contributing factor. I'm ashamed to admit it because I'm a Christian and a lot of it is...well, people and the trends of the world we live in. I should be brave and fight to live and better the world, I should be putting my trust in God.

Hi I'm an ex-Christian (oriental orthodox, specifically EOTC) and lately I'm considering of reverting back. I abandoned religion before I became suicidal so I'm wondering whether reverting might give me solution. I didn't decide but just thinking. Whether God is real or not what matters is what we think and I'm jealous that you have faith in God to be saved. Do you have any advice for me?

 

[BitterlyAlive]

Hi I'm an ex-Christian (oriental orthodox, specifically EOTC) and lately I'm considering of reverting back. I abandoned religion before I became suicidal so I'm wondering whether reverting might give me solution. I didn't decide but just thinking. Whether God is real or not what matters is what we think and I'm jealous that you have faith in God to be saved. Do you have any advice for me?

Hmm, advice as to how to come back or what helps me believe? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

 

[StateOfMind]

I wrote something about this earlier. I actually like myself. The world we live in is complete and total trash. Nothing I've ever exhausted myself in attempting has ever managed to budge the needle. This place is horrible. It doesn't matter what you try. I don't have it in me to just keep being fake and pretending that the world we live in isn't an abomination. Telling the truth and trying to fix things only gets you ostracized.

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[Lupgevif]

Very big. It doesn't matter that I am on a path that could lead me to happiness, the fact there is the human society to deal with just destroys all my hope.

 

[death137]

Hmm, advice as to how to come back or what helps me believe? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

What helps me believe.

 

[BitterlyAlive]

What helps me believe.

There have been a lot of things, actually. I've had my own little experiences with God. Taking philosophy classes and a bible study class really helped me feel as though God and the Bible are real and true. But I feel like some of the most important things have been other people's experiences, as bad as that may sound. I can go into more detail in a pm because some of that requires slightly personal info. Nothing identifying but I'd rather not have it on the open web.

 

[StateOfMind]

I don't understand the question.

I feel like the question leaves some space for interpretation, though at the core OP wants to know how your personal views on life and how the world works affects your desire to commit suicide.

OP feel free to rectify any inaccuracies.

 

[_Minsk]

I feel like the question leaves some space for interpretation, though at the core OP wants to know how your personal views on life and how the world works affects your desire to commit suicide.

OP feel free to rectify any inaccuracies.

yes exactly, well explained!

 

[death137]

There have been a lot of things, actually. I've had my own little experiences with God. Taking philosophy classes and a bible study class really helped me feel as though God and the Bible are real and true. But I feel like some of the most important things have been other people's experiences, as bad as that may sound. I can go into more detail in a pm because some of that requires slightly personal info. Nothing identifying but I'd rather not have it on the open web.

Good lets talk in pm. Thank you very much.

 

[voidman]

Very much so. I always question myself and my beliefs though. I realize we are literally just organisms like everything else and that nothing we do inherently matters, but we have the capacity for suffering. So we suffer. It seems that the reason for this is we are forced to do things that are completely contradictory to our nature. Perhaps that's why a lot of us are miserable? I think our 'sophistication' as humans is killing us, and as far as I can see; the idea of an afterlife is driven by the human ego alone. All I can hope is that life after death is eternal nothingness. I really suck with words but I tried my best to answer the question lmao

 

[Infinite Conscious]

Having been born in a socialist country which was not part of the USSR-block, but rather mid-way between the East and West, in which people lived a quality life before the civil war (Yugoslavia) - until the end of the 20th century I believed the world is going forward, and that it would be good that capitalism "won".

However, as I grew older and felt on my skin how capitalism works, my view of the world went down the toilet.
The world in which 1% of the population owns more than the rest of humanity is seriously ill and something is extremely wrong.

But this kind of social injustice has been present from the beginning of this civilization and will last as long as the civilization itself lasts.
The society is rotten to the core... as human beings are not innately good.
No wonder religion and fear had to be imposed to keep the mob in control.

A "good man" does not exist, only an intelligent enough man who can successfully hide and control his natural-born emotions like greed, envy, lust, anger, etc.
Everything we do correctly is out of fear from the punishment of the herd, in an everlasting longing to be accepted by and please others.

But such a view of the world only plays a minor role in my willing to off myself.
At least I won't miss the society I would be leaving behind, nor do I wish to ever have to come back into it (through reincarnation in which I do believe).

 

[demuic]

I wrote something about this earlier. I actually like myself. The world we live in is complete and total trash. Nothing I've ever exhausted myself in attempting has ever managed to budge the needle. This place is horrible. It doesn't matter what you try. I don't have it in me to just keep being fake and pretending that the world we live in isn't an abomination. Telling the truth and trying to fix things only gets you ostracized.

My worldview plays a major role in my desire to CTB.

I believe life is inherently full of suffering, that it is meaningless and pointless, and that the world is becoming increasingly cruel and uninhabitable (e.g., climate change, global political landscape, lack of compassion we have for one another).

Huge degree, this works is filled with violence, greed and evil. People getting raped everyday, trafficked, sold for organs... murderers, shooters, abusive households, people abusing animals, deforestation, global warming...I could go on but I'm just disgusted by everything that's going on in the world. I don't want to live in a world where all of these things happen everyday and we have no affect on it. I can't do anything to stop it. I hate it here

All of this I agree with so much(though I also dislike myself). This world is absolutely disgusting, and there's no way to ever fix it. For as much as you can say there are some "good" people in the world, there are just as many that are complicit in and even take joy in causing suffering and pain, or will be driven to it in the "right" circumstances, and give in to their baser instincts. Always an "us vs them", stupid, arrogant persepective. Never looking at the bigger picture, instead focusing on inconsequential matters. And those that actually have the power to change even part of this don't want to.

 

[StateOfMind]

All of this I agree with so much(though I also dislike myself). This world is absolutely disgusting, and there's no way to ever fix it. For as much as you can say there are some "good" people in the world, there are just as many that are complicit in and even take joy in causing suffering and pain, or will be driven to it in the "right" circumstances, and give in to their baser instincts. Always an "us vs them", stupid, arrogant persepective. Never looking at the bigger picture, instead focusing on inconsequential matters. And those that actually have the power to change even part of this don't want to.

Our only hope is entropy or death.

 

[Wayfaerer]

My worldview is atheist (nihilist) and it does not play in my role of wanting to CTB but it makes it easier.

 

[VIBRITANNIA]

it plays a major role in me wanting to ctb.

so many people suffer, and for what reason? pieces of paper we've attributed value to? pieces of paper that will be rendered useless when it all goes to shit? people suffer so much, for no reason. even if there were a reason, i still wouldn't want to live in such a world.

although, without suffering, we wouldn't know what happiness is, i guess. still doesn't make me any less disgusted with the world, though.

 

[Worthless_nobody]

My world view plays a big part. So much suffering, cruelty, abuse and no where to turn for help and then we just die. Why does it have to be this way? Why can't everyone get lucky, have good health, be loved and happy?? Why the hell do diseases, depression ect exist? People just say "oh that's just life/society, that's just the way it is"....but why all this needless suffering? I can't accept that this is it... THIS is life.

 

[purplesmoothie]

My world view plays a big part. So much suffering, cruelty, abuse and no where to turn for help and then we just die. Why does it have to be this way? Why can't everyone get lucky, have good health, be loved and happy?? Why the hell do diseases, depression ect exist? People just say "oh that's just life/society, that's just the way it is"....but why all this needless suffering? I can't accept that this is it... THIS is life.

Hopefully there's something better or eternal sleep... Fuck life yo. I remember my crush in middle school was yelling that one time and thats how I feel now

 

[BipolarGuy]

I feel like the question leaves some space for interpretation, though at the core OP wants to know how your personal views on life and how the world works affects your desire to commit suicide.

OP feel free to rectify any inaccuracies.

Oh God yes, definitely these have an effect on my view.

In all honesty I don't understand how they can't. Although I may have misunderstood the question.

 

[Friend_A]

I wrote something about this earlier. I actually like myself. The world we live in is complete and total trash. Nothing I've ever exhausted myself in attempting has ever managed to budge the needle. This place is horrible. It doesn't matter what you try. I don't have it in me to just keep being fake and pretending that the world we live in isn't an abomination. Telling the truth and trying to fix things only gets you ostracized.

i'm the same as you! i like myself, i just don't like this world. it's full of bad people who hurt others and all kinds of bullshit