Ilpiccoloskywalker

Ilpiccoloskywalker

Free hugs
Jan 8, 2020
22
To me is fucking stupid that N is unavailable pretty much anywhere. I don't understand cocaine is illegal and still is pretty much anywhere, why not the same for N? I'm prepared to do what has to be done. I'm talking about DIY
Is it possibile that no one here is a chemist?
I understand one might need an advanced lab.
But if someone knows anything about this let me know.
I need advice
 
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic and itsamadworld
Disintegration

Disintegration

Life is a terminal sexually transmitted disease.
Sep 28, 2019
190
There are books on how to make it. I checked it out, way over my head and pretty difficult to make. Not to mention, if you don't get it right and use it, then what.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic
Ilpiccoloskywalker

Ilpiccoloskywalker

Free hugs
Jan 8, 2020
22
Do you mind sharing the resources?
Worth the risk, Otherwise i'll have to grow lily of the valley
 
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic and a.n.kirillov
Disintegration

Disintegration

Life is a terminal sexually transmitted disease.
Sep 28, 2019
190
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic, Yomyom and Ilpiccoloskywalker
Quarky00

Quarky00

Enlightened
Dec 17, 2019
1,956
Pentobarbital is synthesized by methods analogous to that of amobarbital, the only difference being that the alkylation of α-ethylmalonic ester is carried out with 2-bromopentane in place of 1-bromo-3-methylbutane to give pentobarbital.

Amobarbital (5-ethyl-5-isoamylbarbituric acid), like all barbiturates, is synthesized by reacting malonic acid derivatives with urea derivatives. In particular, in order to make amobarbital, α-ethyl-α-isoamylmalonic ester is reacted with urea (in the presence of sodium ethoxide)

1920px-Amobarbital_synthesis.png


It does not appear to be that complex, but does require lots of not-so-common reagents, I think. You can find all the reagents in chemical companies, but I don't think they'll sell to private people (only to industry etc). So before purchasing the book and lab equipment see if you can even buy or make 2-bromopentane or sodium ethoxide. (EtO is ethylene oxide).

This post not a guide and does not contain any instructions, just basic info straight from Wikipedia.

If we're here, an anecdote (which I'm sure is known):
"Nembutal" was coined by John S. Lundy, who started using it in 1930, from the structural formula of the sodium salt—Na (sodium) + ethyl + methyl + butyl + al (common suffix for barbiturates)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic
A

Aap

Enlightened
Apr 26, 2020
1,856
Nurse Betty had a video on how to make it. I watched it maybe 10 years ago
 
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic
Jblack

Jblack

Specialist
Oct 8, 2018
314
Generally organic synthesis gives fairly low overall yields of the product that you want. A reaction like this usually give about 40% of the compound you are making. It would be very costly to purchase all of the compounds needed to yield a small amount of product.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tharik77
Didymus

Didymus

Clutching at invisible straws
Dec 11, 2018
348
To me is fucking stupid that N is unavailable pretty much anywhere. I don't understand cocaine is illegal and still is pretty much anywhere, why not the same for N? I'm prepared to do what has to be done. I'm talking about DIY
Is it possibile that no one here is a chemist?
I understand one might need an advanced lab.
But if someone knows anything about this let me know.
I need advice

Demand for cocaine is maybe hundreds of millions time more than for N and can be sold to the same person over and over. Compare that to N.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic and Walilamdzi
R

rebelsue

Hope Addict
Dec 12, 2019
172
This seems like a bad idea even if you were a great chemist and figured it all out. Many governments watch purchases of lab equipment. A friend of mine spent 3 years in prison because people were watching his ebay account as he bought supplies for making DMT and ectasy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic and itsamadworld
Ilpiccoloskywalker

Ilpiccoloskywalker

Free hugs
Jan 8, 2020
22
If anyone has a pdf of that book (How To Make Nembutal At Home - Dr. Denise Nebgan) can you share it by pm or something.
It seems that amazon banned it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic
Yomyom

Yomyom

Darker dearie, much darker
Feb 5, 2020
923
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic, Quarky00 and pthnrdnojvsc
Csmith8827

Csmith8827

Don't you listen to your heart? (Listen to it...)
Oct 26, 2019
887
I have no idea if that will help, but I checked about it couple of months ago and I found this


And where do we get all of those complex chemicals? Half the shit that's listed you probably can't even find.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Quarky00
Yomyom

Yomyom

Darker dearie, much darker
Feb 5, 2020
923
No idea, maybe in empire or chemical sites that selling for schools and lab
 
Csmith8827

Csmith8827

Don't you listen to your heart? (Listen to it...)
Oct 26, 2019
887
No idea, maybe in empire or chemical sites that selling for schools and lab

Which isn't even available for us to purchase...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Quarky00
HelensNepenthe

HelensNepenthe

Thoughtful poster
Jan 17, 2019
835
Pentobarbitone. (Called Nembutal or Pentobarbital.) 26.7 g of clean metallic sodium are dissolved in 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol. To this, a solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester and 37.2 g of dry urea is added. The mixture is heated for 4 to 6 hours in an autoclave, or refluxed for 20 to 40 hours. The alcohol is then removed by distillation. The residue is dissolved in water and this aqueous solution is acidified with hydrochloric acid. The precipitated product is filtered, washed with cold water, and recrystallized from boiling water. Yield: depends on your ability to exclude H2O from the beginning of the reaction, mp: 127-130°C.

 
  • Like
Reactions: Venessolotic, IrRegularjoe, Quarky00 and 1 other person
Sunset Limited

Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
1,299
Wouldn't it be easier to make a debreather? Of course this is not the answer to the OP's question, but if this is about the CTB, I would choose debreather.
 

Similar threads

athiestjoe
Replies
45
Views
2K
Suicide Discussion
skatergirl
S
blueberrypie
Replies
4
Views
207
Suicide Discussion
TAW122
TAW122
C
Replies
2
Views
150
Recovery
ceilng_tile
C
wildflowers1996
Replies
0
Views
123
Suicide Discussion
wildflowers1996
wildflowers1996
Imhopeless
Replies
1
Views
152
Suicide Discussion
MatrixPrisoner
MatrixPrisoner