Method Help with partial suspension please! + ODing

[Isabelx]

Hiya sorry I know there are already a lot of threads on here regarding the partial suspension method but I have yet to find one with exactly the information I was looking for so here's another :)

I've tried doing some "trials runs" using this method and they have never given me any promising results. I've been leaning in for ~2 minutes each time hoping I'd start to feel on the brink of unconsciousness but it just makes me feel really dizzy and disoriented so I can't be cutting off the carotids anywhere near enough. What do people suggest to ensure they are fully closed? Also I read somewhere that for this method you had to do two knots at the front of your neck to compress each artery so how would you knot that?? I have not seen that mentioned in many places but what's people's take on that? Also I am using my dressing gown belt for the ligature. Is that an acceptable material?

If somebody could please give me a reaaaallllly clear step by step method (basically explaining it to an absolute dummy) I would be so so grateful!! Also if anybody has any stories regarding how this method worked for them. Many thanks!

Ps - I was hoping to get this done tonight but failing that I was considering ODing on Cocaine (am I allowed to write this on here??). I am 5ft 7" and about 8stone (roughly 50kg) so I'm relitavley small and won't have any real tolerance to Cocaine as I never really use it. How much would I have to do (and if I drunk alcohol alongside it) to hopefully OD and induce a heart attack? Is this an okay method or am I being stupid? Thanks again! :)

 

[omw/2/ctb]

Hi there Isabel, I'm sorry for whatever has brought you to this extremity and I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting to go tonight but I would advise taking as much time as you need to achieve clarity on what to do and what not to do before trying anything. A botched suicide attempt often creates situations which are worse than the one that lead to the attempt, and sometimes are even harder to escape. If it was me (and I'm certain I'd never have the courage to suspend) I'd be sure to test the strength of the ligature by suspending something of similar weight first. Suspension is one of the most popular methods but it also has a high failure rate. Your B plan sounds interesting but also very risky and (I would imagine) probably has a high chance of failure. I have posted quite a bit about my own preferred choice (If you go to my profile and scroll through my postings, you should see my response to the 'What's Your Plan' thread on 7 April). If you want to talk about anything one-to-one, I'm on Kik & Discord (omw2ctb) or I'm happy to chat about most things here openly. No matter what, I hope you find peace and that your journey is brief and pleasant.

 

[limelight]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-hang-yourself.1183/

 

[aprincessclara]

Why do you sound so casual about it? What's with all the smiley faces and colloquial language? You sound like you're asking for skincare routines not taking your own life.

Someone at the stage you think you're at would be completely dead on the inside. I think you're not in the right frame of mind to make this decision and you need to talk to someone.

 

[lostangel]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-hang-yourself.1183/

yes I have the same problem but I think changing the rope you use to something more better help

Why do you sound so casual about it? What's with all the smiley faces and colloquial language? You sound like you're asking for skincare routines not taking your own life.

Someone at the stage you think you're at would be completely dead on the inside. I think you're not in the right frame of mind to make this decision and you need to talk to someone.
to be fair if she wants to hang herself then lets not discourage her by saying she 'needs to talk to someone'. Lets all just die in peace you know

 

[Isabelx]

Why do you sound so casual about it? What's with all the smiley faces and colloquial language? You sound like you're asking for skincare routines not taking your own life.

Someone at the stage you think you're at would be completely dead on the inside. I think you're not in the right frame of mind to make this decision and you need to talk to someone.

I know how it may look, but please if there's any place where peopl could do without a bit of judgement it is this website surely. I don't mean to make it look like I'm taking the mick or that I'm taking Suicide lightly, that is just how I always type to everyone and I like to come across as friendly not matter what the occasion. Saying you don't believe I could be feeling bad enough to take my own life because of the way I was typing online kind of hurts because I do know how I'm feeling and it is one of the reasons I never open up to anyone because I know they will brush me off because the reality of what's inside my head is such a stark contrast to my happy facade. I don't mean to criticise you at all, I understand that the way I was talking looks out of place on a site/thread like this and I get now it's probably not the best way to be taken completely seriously. But I am serious and I don't think it's fair I should be (lightly, I know) mocked for maybe appearing a bit cutesy and ditsy. Anyway it feels weird not ending this with a smiley face but I'll try out the new tone.

 

[pole]

Why do you sound so casual about it? What's with all the smiley faces and colloquial language? You sound like you're asking for skincare routines not taking your own life.

Someone at the stage you think you're at would be completely dead on the inside. I think you're not in the right frame of mind to make this decision and you need to talk to someone.

Im literally the same type of person, who uses emojis and shit just because its incorporated in the way i talk and i do feel dead on the inside lol. Matter of fact, out of emojis, youll be seeing me say lol, LMAO, LMFAO, about 1000000x different times. Our language and the way we speak with regards to "emojis" and other keyboard characters like friendly smiley faces shouldnt at all depict, underestimate and question what someones going through and their state of mind.

 

[aprincessclara]

I know how it may look, but please if there's any place where peopl could do without a bit of judgement it is this website surely. I don't mean to make it look like I'm taking the mick or that I'm taking Suicide lightly, that is just how I always type to everyone and I like to come across as friendly not matter what the occasion. Saying you don't believe I could be feeling bad enough to take my own life because of the way I was typing online kind of hurts because I do know how I'm feeling and it is one of the reasons I never open up to anyone because I know they will brush me off because the reality of what's inside my head is such a stark contrast to my happy facade. I don't mean to criticise you at all, I understand that the way I was talking looks out of place on a site/thread like this and I get now it's probably not the best way to be taken completely seriously. But I am serious and I don't think it's fair I should be (lightly, I know) mocked for maybe appearing a bit cutesy and ditsy. Anyway it feels weird not ending this with a smiley face but I'll try out the new tone.

I don't think it is a facade, I think it's part of you you're still holding onto. If I was about to take my own life human courtesy wouldn't even cross my mind, I would just read the first method I saw that I knew for sure worked and I'd be out of here without even thanking or being nice to anyone.

The fact you're humanising this makes it seem like you still very much have a presence in this world. But consider that you won't even be a human anymore after you die, you'll be a total ceasing of anything. It's important you recognise this because if you trigger your own death there is no going back (or if there is you may end up in a worse existance than before) and I fear by the tone of your post you may regret it from the moment it swallows you.

At least if you were dead on the inside then it wouldn't be such a tragedy for the shell holding you bound here to die.

Im literally the same type of person, who uses emojis and shit just because its incorporated in the way i talk and i do feel dead on the inside lol. Matter of fact, out of emojis, youll be seeing me say lol, LMAO, LMFAO, about 1000000x different times. Our language and the way we speak with regards to "emojis" and other keyboard characters like friendly smiley faces shouldnt at all depict, underestimate and question what someones going through and their state of mind.

Deep depression has reduced me to being robotic. I don't even make an effort to use emojiis or whatever when I'm talking about suicide, why on earth would I give a fuck. The facade is only there when I don't want someone to know I feel suicidal.

 

[pole]

I don't think it is a facade, I think it's part of you you're still holding onto. If I was about to take my own life human courtesy wouldn't even cross my mind, I would just read the first method I saw that I knew for sure worked and I'd be out of here without even thanking or being nice to anyone.

The fact you're humanising this makes it seem like you still very much have a presence in this world. But consider that you won't even be a human anymore after you die, you'll be a total ceasing of anything. It's important you recognise this because if you trigger your own death there is no going back (or if there is you may end up in a worse existance than before) and I fear by the tone of your post you may regret it from the moment it swallows you.

At least if you were dead on the inside then it wouldn't be such a tragedy for the shell holding you bound here to die.


Deep depression has reduced me to being robotic. I don't even make an effort to use emojiis or whatever when I'm talking about suicide, why on earth would I give a fuck. The facade is only there when I don't want someone to know I feel suicidal.

But that's the problem though. THAT'S YOU. Everyones different and channel and control their pain in different ways. Thats the way you're feeling and thats resulted in you just not giving a fuck. I work retail, so polite gestures carry into conversations outside of the workplace and ive just learned you feeling the way you do shouldnt affect the energy you output to others and change you from talking in a respect and politeful manner to anyone. You feel that way, and so you're feeling of numbness and feeling dead inside embodies you're tone and language because you dont give two fucks anymore. I respect that. But that doesnt mean everyone else feels that way though. I'm different, we might both feel pain, by my language and tone is different than yours in that sense. But thats okay, cause were different people. Shouldnt be used as an opportunity to criticize someone.

I mean fuck, the fact that i talk the way i talk as helped me. I rarely get pointed out or asked if im feeling okay and what not, because i put out a different feeling from the way that i feel inside and thats just through my tone and the way i talk that helps more than ever. And as a 19 year old, it helps because your around your friends, and your just vulnerable of being spotted as that depressed kid or what not, if you output the energy your feeling. Which literally just puts you in the position of being vulnerable, and being labeled as someone depressed. Resulting in unwanted attention.

 

[Isabelx]

But that's the problem though. THAT'S YOU. Everyones different and channel and control their pain in different ways. Thats the way you're feeling and thats resulted in you just not giving a fuck. I work retail, so polite gestures carry into conversations outside of the workplace and ive just learned you feeling the way you do shouldnt affect the energy you output to others and change you from talking in a respect and politeful manner to anyone. You feel that way, and so you're feeling of numbness and feeling dead inside embodies you're tone and language because you dont give two fucks anymore. I respect that. But that doesnt mean everyone else feels that way though. I'm different, we might both feel pain, by my language and tone is different than yours in that sense. But thats okay, cause were different people. Shouldnt be used as an opportunity to criticize someone.

I mean fuck, the fact that i talk the way i talk as helped me. I rarely get pointed out or asked if im feeling okay and what not, because i put out a different feeling from the way that i feel inside and thats just through my tone and the way i talk that helps more than ever. And as a 19 year old, it helps because your around your friends, and your just vulnerable of being spotted as that depressed kid or what not, if you output the energy your feeling. Which literally just puts you in the position of being vulnerable, and being labeled as someone depressed. Resulting in unwanted attention.

Thank you, you summed up what I was going to say, especially about it being different for everyone.

In response to aprincessclara (sorry not sure how the tagging thing works on here) I think it's fair to say we all have a lot of pain inside of us or it's highly unlikely we'd be on this website, but that doesn't mean we're all going to appear in the same way. I like coming across as the cheerful one when I'm with people, mostly because it means they can have some hopefully positive memories of me when I'm gone rather than feeling like I was not even present near the end. But still inside me or when I'm alone it's a different story. obviously it's perfectly understandable some people would rather isolate themselves or not want to show any emotion but that doesn't mean people who do aren't as serious or sure about this.

 

[omw/2/ctb]

Why do you sound so casual about it? What's with all the smiley faces and colloquial language? You sound like you're asking for skincare routines not taking your own life...Someone at the stage you think you're at would be completely dead on the inside. I think you're not in the right frame of mind to make this decision and you need to talk to someone.

Who are you to tell anyone how to live or die? What makes you think anyone else has to answer to your concept of what a suicidal person should sound like? You sound like one of those people who only comes here to exploit the vulnerability of others. If you were truly here for your own reasons you wouldn't be so judgmental of others, and if you came here to help people off the ledge, you really need to work on your technique, because you suck at it. Isabelx owns her life and she owns her death. Neither she, nor anyone else here has to answer to you for what they do with them.

 

[Isabelx]

Who are you to tell anyone how to live or die? What makes you think anyone else has to answer to your concept of what a suicidal person should sound like? You sound like one of those people who only comes here to exploit the vulnerability of others. If you were truly here for your own reasons you wouldn't be so judgmental of others, and if you came here to help people off the ledge, you really need to work on your technique, because you suck at it. Isabelx owns her life and she owns her death. Neither she, nor anyone else here has to answer to you for what they do with them.

Thank you x

 

[aprincessclara]

But that's the problem though. THAT'S YOU. Everyones different and channel and control their pain in different ways. Thats the way you're feeling and thats resulted in you just not giving a fuck. I work retail, so polite gestures carry into conversations outside of the workplace and ive just learned you feeling the way you do shouldnt affect the energy you output to others and change you from talking in a respect and politeful manner to anyone. You feel that way, and so you're feeling of numbness and feeling dead inside embodies you're tone and language because you dont give two fucks anymore. I respect that. But that doesnt mean everyone else feels that way though. I'm different, we might both feel pain, by my language and tone is different than yours in that sense. But thats okay, cause were different people. Shouldnt be used as an opportunity to criticize someone.

I mean fuck, the fact that i talk the way i talk as helped me. I rarely get pointed out or asked if im feeling okay and what not, because i put out a different feeling from the way that i feel inside and thats just through my tone and the way i talk that helps more than ever. And as a 19 year old, it helps because your around your friends, and your just vulnerable of being spotted as that depressed kid or what not, if you output the energy your feeling. Which literally just puts you in the position of being vulnerable, and being labeled as someone depressed. Resulting in unwanted attention.

Well you have an avi of yourself in rl which means you still value your outer self And presumably and you're willing to discuss with me in depth about how you feel which shows you maybe have beliefs or principles. Are these things you want to hold onto? Because there is no afterlife, death is a total absence of you altogether.

 

[omw/2/ctb]

... Because there is no afterlife, death is a total absence of you altogether.

REALLY??? You've been there? Why do you want to keep talking about things you know nothing about like you're some expert. Really, Princess, clean your own house and stop trying to tell people how to clean theirs.

 

[aprincessclara]

Who are you to tell anyone how to live or die? What makes you think anyone else has to answer to your concept of what a suicidal person should sound like? You sound like one of those people who only comes here to exploit the vulnerability of others. If you were truly here for your own reasons you wouldn't be so judgmental of others, and if you came here to help people off the ledge, you really need to work on your technique, because you suck at it. Isabelx owns her life and she owns her death. Neither she, nor anyone else here has to answer to you for what they do with them.

I have a right to tell you to make an informed choice, that's the decent thing anyone in my situation should do talking to the suicidal. Does it really matter what I think if you're just going to kill yourself anyway. The fact you are annoyed with me shows you still care about shit.

REALLY??? You've been there? Why do you want to keep talking about things you know nothing about like you're some expert. Really, Princess, clean your own house and stop trying to tell people how to clean theirs.

I haven't been there but until there is factual evidence that says otherwise, death is a total absence of consciousness and there is nothing after death.

 

[omw/2/ctb]

...The fact you are annoyed with me shows you still care about shit.

More wisdom from the Font of Echoes. It might come as a surprise that caring is why people get to the stage of catching the bus...if they didn't care about shit, nothing would bother them enough. Anything else Yoda?

 

[pole]

Well you have an avi of yourself in rl which means you still value your outer self And presumably and you're willing to discuss with me in depth about how you feel which shows you maybe have beliefs or principles. Are these things you want to hold onto? Because there is no afterlife, death is a total absence of you altogether.

Me having an RL AVI is just you assuming i value my outer appearence, when i really done. I dont care for the way i look anymore, and me not caring about my outer appearence is why i dont care about posting selfies anywhere and everywhere.

Me discussing with you how i feel, is nothing but just interacting and talking to someone about emotions and pain, because after all; everyone on this site here is going through emotions and pain, though different levels and different scenarios, the same feeling. So i mean, what would stop be from talking about my emotions and the way i feel on a website especially one like this? Really isnt me having any beliefs or principles. Its not me holding onto these things, its just me not caring about these things. Which in turn, results in my tone and behavior with emojis, etc. Or quiet frankly the dumb things i do irl lol. Its just me not giving a shit anymore.

 

[aprincessclara]

Thank you, you summed up what I was going to say, especially about it being different for everyone.

In response to aprincessclara (sorry not sure how the tagging thing works on here) I think it's fair to say we all have a lot of pain inside of us or it's highly unlikely we'd be on this website, but that doesn't mean we're all going to appear in the same way. I like coming across as the cheerful one when I'm with people, mostly because it means they can have some hopefully positive memories of me when I'm gone rather than feeling like I was not even present near the end. But still inside me or when I'm alone it's a different story. obviously it's perfectly understandable some people would rather isolate themselves or not want to show any emotion but that doesn't mean people who do aren't as serious or sure about this.

I'm not denying your pain, I'm trying to get you to reflect on your own situation. If you're not going to be here anymore why do you feel a need to come across one way or another at all? Doesn't that show you still have something to hold onto?

More wisdom from the Font of Echoes. It might come as a surprise that caring is why people get to the stage of catching the bus...if they didn't care about shit, nothing would bother them enough. Anything else Yoda?

No, if you didn't care about shit you would be gone by now. I don't know what shit you care about except I know you care about arguing with me or calling me words.

 

[NotSure]

But, what if death is the absence of anything and everything. What if it's complete nothingness. Worse yet, what if it's a life recycled...specifically your own? What if Hell does exist? There are a lot of "what if's". Sometimes it feels like there's no way out, but the alternative could be much worse. I'm not trying to say anyone's right or wrong, but you must be damn sure you want to go that route.

 

[Isabelx]

I have a right to tell you to make an informed choice, that's the decent thing anyone in my situation should do talking to the suicidal. Does it really matter what I think if you're just going to kill yourself anyway. The fact you are annoyed with me shows you still care about shit.


I haven't been there but until there is factual evidence that says otherwise, death is a total absence of consciousness and there is nothing after death, not even nothingnes itself.

I agree it's never a bad idea to remind people there are other, less dire options than suicide. But that's hardly what you're doing. Especially in your original post, you acted like there wasn't even a chance I could possibly be in a dark enough place for suicide simply because I had typed smiley faces in my post and acted like I was some childish idiot who hadn't even given a second thought to what suicide really meant because of how I phrased things. And to other people since you've tried to negate their feelings/suicidal tendencies because of things such as their profile picture? Why do you think you are able to dicatate who is suicidal and who is some naive idiot who couldn't possibly be really feeling that way. That's near enough impossible in real life, let alone with people you know very little about online.

 

[omw/2/ctb]

...I haven't been there but until there is factual evidence that says otherwise, death is a total absence of consciousness and there is nothing after death.

The only factual evidence there is is the absence of factual evidence, but to deny the possibility that something exists before the presence of irrefutable evidence is to wallow in ignorance. Almost everything really important that we do know about the world comes from the willingness to make conjectures. No one can prove there is an afterlife, but neither can anyone prove there isn't. I personally don't believe in an afterlife, but I prefer to be less arrogant than the religious extremist in my certainty of what I can not prove.

 

[aprincessclara]

Me having an RL AVI is just you assuming i value my outer appearence, when i really done. I dont care for the way i look anymore, and me not caring about my outer appearence is why i dont care about posting selfies anywhere and everywhere.

Me discussing with you how i feel, is nothing but just interacting and talking to someone about emotions and pain, because after all; everyone on this site here is going through emotions and pain, though different levels and different scenarios, the same feeling. So i mean, what would stop be from talking about my emotions and the way i feel on a website especially one like this? Really isnt me having any beliefs or principles. Its not me holding onto these things, its just me not caring about these things. Which in turn, results in my tone and behavior with emojis, etc. Or quiet frankly the dumb things i do irl lol. Its just me not giving a shit anymore.

Then why are you posting a selfie as your avi on a pro-choice suicide forum?

You care about talking about your emotions and pain a lot. Do you really have to justify shit if you're gunna just take your life anyway. What is the point of that, you're going to be gone. Will you still be around for for a cup of tea or two?

Unless you're trying to justify how you feel in the hope someone convinces you to see a point in living. I do that all the time to keep myself alive.

 

[omw/2/ctb]

No, if you didn't care about shit you would be gone by now. I don't know what shit you care about except I know you care about arguing with me or calling me words.

Again, you can't resist betraying your ignorance by categorically stating things that are verifiably false. I have posted extensively about my plans and intended methods here. YOU have no business trying to tell anyone about their lives since you clearly don't know anything and you're too arrogant to see that. And the reason I called you Yoda is because he talks backward trying to sound wise and most of what you're saying is completely ass-backward. Why not take a breath and think before posting again. To paraphrase...it is better to be silent and thought a fool than to keep posting and remove all doubt.

 

[aprincessclara]

The only factual evidence there is is the absence of factual evidence, but to deny the possibility that something exists before the presence of irrefutable evidence is to wallow in ignorance. Almost everything really important that we do know about the world comes from the willingness to make conjectures. No one can prove there is an afterlife, but neither can anyone prove there isn't. I personally don't believe in an afterlife, but I prefer to be less arrogant than the religious extremist in my certainty of what I can not prove.

The factual evidence is that what you know is stored in your brain right now. You can't know if there is an afterlife until you die. If there wasn't one you wouldn't know because you'd no longer exist. In the event there is one you wouldn't know either because what you know dies at brain death. In both cases you won't know, so unless you can find out without dying, you can only assume you, as far as what makes you is concerned, will know nothing.

Again, you can't resist betraying your ignorance by categorically stating things that are verifiably false. I have posted extensively about my plans and intended methods here. YOU have no business trying to tell anyone about their lives since you clearly don't know anything and you're too arrogant to see that. And the reason I called you Yoda is because he talks backward and most of what you're saying is completely ass-backward. Why not take a breath and think before posting again. To paraphrase...it is better to be silent and thought a fool than to keep posting and remove all doubt.

Explain how it is verifiable. You seem to have a business in using ad hominems rather than engaging in a civil discussion. I'm not telling anyone what to do with their lives, just to consider making an informed decision.For someone who wants to cease having an ego you have quite the emphasis on using it, I can tell you that.

 

[pole]

Then why are you posting a selfie as your avi on a pro-choice suicide forum?

You care about talking about your emotions and pain a lot. Do you really have to justify shit if you're gunna just take your life anyway. What is the point of that, you're going to be gone. Will you still be around for for a cup of tea or two?

Unless you're trying to justify how you feel in the hope someone convinces you to see a point in living. I do that all the time to keep myself alive.

Its an AVI?.. i can post whatever i want with an AVI?.. Everything im apart of, whether its gaming, i have an AVI? Its just an AVI..? How can you just say i care about talking about my emotions freely, when i MYSELF say i dont care about my emotions, so i do talk about them freely because i dont give 10 shits. And you do what you did again, you compare me to you. And thats the dilemma at hand. At first, you were comparing ones suicidal and depressive behavior to yourself, whether it be language, etc. Now here, you again try and compare the way you feel, saying and assuming im freely speaking and behaving in the hopes somehow someone convinces me to see a point in living? AND THEN, you bring yourself into it saying i do the same thing. Assuming that i do, you compared your assumption of me to you and what you do. This is again, all on the basis of you assuming. Again, everyones different? You assuming that because YOU do that isnt right. Its just wrong, because that isnt the reason and because you do that doesnt make your assumption any more realer.

This whole convo, its as if you've been somewhat analytic, just critically analyzing people and what they say and then being deep about it, when quiet frankly it isnt even that deep or even that deep to be critically analyzed or thought about as deeply as your trying to make it lmaooo.

 

[aprincessclara]

Its an AVI?.. i can post whatever i want with an AVI?.. Everything im apart of, whether its gaming, i have an AVI? Its just an AVI..? How can you just say i care about talking about my emotions freely, when i MYSELF say i dont care about my emotions, so i do talk about them freely because i dont give 10 shits. And you do what you did again, you compare me to you. And thats the dilemma at hand. At first, you were comparing ones suicidal and depressive behavior to yourself, whether it be language, etc. Now here, you again try and compare the way you feel, saying and assuming im freely speaking and behaving in the hopes somehow someone convinces me to see a point in living? AND THEN, you bring yourself into it saying i do the same thing. Assuming that i do, you compared your assumption of me to you and what you do. This is again, all on the basis of you assuming.

This whole convo, its as if you've been somewhat analytic, just critically analyzing people and what they say and then being deep about it, when quiet frankly it isnt even that deep or even that deep to be critically analyzed or thought about as deeply as your trying to make it lmaooo.

Then why do you give 10 shits about talking to me right now. Why are you even bothering to respond? You care about telling me how you don't care and your emotions of not seeing a point in life. I'm not comparing myself to you and I don't really care either.

 

[pole]

Then why do you give 10 shits about talking to me right now. Why are you even bothering to respond? You care about telling me how you don't care and your emotions of not seeing a point in life. I'm not comparing myself to you and I don't really care either.

Why wouldnt i respond? Its an active conversation, that your actively participating in? Just like i am? Looool. And nah you did compare though, dont deny that please lmao. Its a fact you did, not only to myself but others. Dont know how you're able to even deny that lmaoo.

Anyways your right, waste of time arguing underneath someone elses thread.

Hold this L real quick

 

[spanishguy22]

Why wouldnt i respond? Its an active conversation, that your actively participating in? Just like i am? Looool. And nah you did compare though, dont deny that please lmao. Its a fact you did, not only to myself but others. Dont know how you're able to even deny that lmaoo.

Anyways your right, waste of time arguing underneath someone elses thread.

Hold this L real quick

I think you should keep that L, seeing as several of you are being way too hostile towards a fellow suicidal member for such an asinine argument. Even if she is right or wrong (I don't think this is black and white and she/he clearly states intelligent points) or inappropiate, ganging up on someone hurting is one of the least noble things humans are capable of.

 

[Isabelx]

I think you should keep that L, seeing as several of you are being way too hostile towards a fellow suicidal member for such an asinine argument. Even if she is right or wrong (I don't think this is black and white and she/he clearly states intelligent points) or inappropiate, ganging up on someone hurting is one of the least noble things humans are capable of.

Their original comment before any of this spiralled into an argument was hostile and inappropriate in my opinion. Maybe it looks like I'm overreacting (and maybe I am) but it just seems like a callous and unnecessary thing to say in the first place, considering the circumstances. I don't know what reaction they had anticipated when they said it, but I'm grateful other people stuck up for me or I know it'd have left me feeling pretty humiliated from being mocked when asking about this topic. I don't want her to feel the same and I hope they don't - I'm sorry if anyone involved in this thread has been offended

 

[Ashpac]

This thread got hijacked way too quickly

You didnt offend me Isabel, and probably didnt offend other people too.

I hope you choose the best outcome for yourself, whether its too stay alive or exit this dimension.