Discussion Having doubts about Fentanyl after reading this article on Fentanyl being used in state execution

[wereqryan]

This is the article from 2017:

Nevada Plans to Use Fentanyl in Upcoming Execution

Medical professionals say the state’s new lethal injection protocol “doesn’t make much sense.”

www.themarshallproject.org

There's mention that death row execution will be carried out by injection of a cocktail made of fentanyl, diazepam (Valium), and cisatracurium (a muscle relaxant that causes paralysis). Then it goes on to question the necessity of other the drugs besides fent since fent itself is supposed to be very potent. However, if it is potent, why does it mention that a "massive ongoing dose" is necessary, otherwise the prisoner may wake up? Here's the excerpt from the article:



How big of a dose are we looking at here? This contradicts what I've heard before about fentanyl, where they believed that only a small dose is sufficient to cause death. Any ideas?

 

[Yomyom]

Thousands of people die every year from fentanyl, they go to sleep and don't wake up.

The recommendation is to take Benzo so that you fall asleep faster
Plus benzo prevents seizures

Here is great explanation on how fentanyl kills

Opioids kill. Here’s how an overdose shuts down your body

Powerful opioids affect many parts of the body, but the drugs' most deadly effects are on breathing.

www.sciencenews.org

 

[wereqryan]

The recommendation is to take Benzo so that you fall asleep faster
Plus benzo prevents seizures

Recommended lethal doses of Benzo and Fent?

 

[Yomyom]

Recommended lethal doses of Benzo and Fent?

Depending on the book your reading.
In 'dignified dying' wrote
Fentanyl patches- 500 mcg per hour (5 of 100)
And long acting benzo like diazepam 500mg

They didn't discussed about the powder form so I don't know, but I'm sure there's an answer here

The problem with the patches is that it takes too much time

 

[wereqryan]

Thousands of people die every year from fentanyl, they go to sleep and don't wake up.

The recommendation is to take Benzo so that you fall asleep faster
Plus benzo prevents seizures

Here is great explanation on how fentanyl kills

Opioids kill. Here’s how an overdose shuts down your body

Powerful opioids affect many parts of the body, but the drugs' most deadly effects are on breathing.

www.sciencenews.org

This addict has been on Fent for 2 years and he takes a high dose as well:

Depending on the book your reading.
In 'dignified dying' wrote
Fentanyl patches- 500 mcg per hour (5 of 100)
And long acting benzo like diazepam 500mg

They didn't discussed about the powder form so I don't know, but I'm sure there's an answer here

The problem with the patches is that it takes too much time

Too many variables, too much uncertainty. I think I'll stick to jumping as my method of choice. Simplest method tbh.

 

[Yomyom]

This addict has been on Fent for 2 years and he takes a high dose as well:



Too many variables, too much uncertainty. I think I'll stick to jumping as my method of choice. Simplest method tbh.

I don't understand your point, he developed a resistance to opioids, that's it
If a person with resistance want to ctb with opioids he will have to get clean first...