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Volatile

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Jun 18, 2018
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Most of the people in the simulation would play it safe and see the simulation out to its natural conclusion, but then others would see through this matrix and want to escape it. The simulation could be testing the players to see who can overcome the survival instinct - the hardest task of all. Whoa!
 
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Soul

gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha
Apr 12, 2019
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That's one of my favourite concepts of what happens when we die: A group of beings more familiar than anyone we've known here are waiting for us, happily congratulating us. "Finally! You figured it out! We thought you'd get it way sooner than this, you mad bastard!"
 
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Faraway1990

Student
Jun 2, 2019
195
Honestly? I reckon when I see my soul family I'll we'll go to some vacation realm no one who isn't trying to play you on the "other side" isn't going to fault you taking CBT way out of this really messed up clown world.
 
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whyidon'tknow

Human
Jun 9, 2019
353
What if reincarnation is real but it extends to the whole universe?
 
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Faraway1990

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Jun 2, 2019
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What if reincarnation is real but it extends to the whole universe?
It goes beyond reincarnation this reality we're put into a body/vessel made to forget ourselves.
 
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whyidon'tknow

Human
Jun 9, 2019
353
It goes beyond reincarnation this reality we're put into a body/vessel made to forget ourselves.

I really hope reincarnation isn't real
 
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Faraway1990

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I really hope reincarnation isn't real
If I could give you any advice it be whenever you cross Don't step into the "light" that's a one way ticket to come back here or a similar reality experience. There's a whole universe and beyond of creation.
 
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Volatile

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Jun 18, 2018
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If I could give you any advice it be whenever you cross Don't step into the "light" that's a one way ticket to come back here or a similar reality experience. There's a whole universe and beyond of creation.
What's the alternative to stepping into the light? Can you stop before the light and still die?
 
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Faraway1990

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Jun 2, 2019
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What's the alternative to stepping into the light? Can you stop before the light and still die?
Once you've left your body you'll see a light it'll probably be hypnotic it can be presented to everyone differently. But that light is a portal and you're pretty much letting yourself be reincarnated here or a similar reality. You can go wherever you want. The choice is endless. It's up to you but my goal is to not come back and stepping in that light is tantamount to signing a contract.
 
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toolateforme

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Jul 2, 2018
158
Catching the bus is probably the only way to escape the matrix, but not everyone will get to that point in their lives. At the same time, I think anyone is prone to it, because I don't think anyone is invincible to the consideration that it might just be better to end it all (unless they have cognitive deficits maybe, I dunno). And then even after getting to that point, there's still not a whole lot of people that attempt it or even succeed. Those who do attempt it might realize that it's not all great of an idea to see the simulation out to its natural conclusion. Or, if you succeed, one could say that is the natural conclusion of the simulation.

I kind of hope rebirth is possible, and at the same time, not really. It'd be cool to get another chance but what if it's even shittier than my current one?
 
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not_a_robot

"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
May 30, 2019
2,121
Most of the people in the simulation would play it safe and see the simulation out to its natural conclusion, but then others would see through this matrix and want to escape it. The simulation could be testing the players to see who can overcome the survival instinct - the hardest task of all. Whoa!
I'm pretty sure I'm trapped in something similar to what you describe but it's not a videogame where anybody gets to "win". It's just a VR brainmapping project by the US government. Whatever the stated objective of a US govt project is, the real goal is always the same; to indulge the sadism of people in power.
Test subjects can now only be manipulated without informed consent in the context of a psych study. So, now all the sadists get psych degrees. But it's still just an excuse to torment people because they enjoy it.
The goal of the program is to induce people to murder and suicide, but there's no "escape"; our tormenters are just jerking off to our deaths because it makes them feel powerful.
 
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johnonymous

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Jun 6, 2019
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But is this really much different from the standard Western monotheistic conception of an omnipotent god? How do we know we aren't just being tested by He/She/It/AI, like Job in the Old Testament?
 
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not_a_robot

"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
May 30, 2019
2,121
If I could give you any advice it be whenever you cross Don't step into the "light" that's a one way ticket to come back here or a similar reality experience. There's a whole universe and beyond of creation.
"Don't go into the light, Carol Ann!"
 
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ManWithNoName

Enlightened
Feb 2, 2019
1,224
If I could give you any advice it be whenever you cross Don't step into the "light" that's a one way ticket to come back here or a similar reality experience. There's a whole universe and beyond of creation.
I recall hearing this as well. Then if not the light, how do you know where to go?
 
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not_a_robot

"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
May 30, 2019
2,121
I recall hearing this as well. Then if not the light, how do you know where to go?
"we have lived our whole lives in darkness, so we know how to feel our way and find each other in the dark."
--patkat
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,663
It is certainly one of the hardest challenges in life, but I guess it varies from each individual to individual. Some find it harder to ctb than other stuff, while others find other things harder than ctb'ing.
 
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Thorn

Wrecked
Jun 8, 2019
284
I have always thought that humans are an experimental species put here to see how they destroy each other, or maybe learn to coexist. Seems that it's not going too well so far.
 
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Alan James

Arcanist
Apr 11, 2019
408
I once wrote that if life after death existed (I do not believe in it), there would be some kind of reward for CTB. Religion scares people with hell and punishment after death in order to control them, for them people are cattle that must be kept in a stall.

I am an atheist, but if I'm wrong and reincarnation really exists, then this is something that must be avoided at all costs. Never settle for it if it is voluntary (which is unlikely), fuck them!

Do not believe in any "angels" or "dead relatives" if you see them: perhaps this is just a computer simulation or hologramm. Maybe some technology reads your memory, psychology and thoughts and create the appearance of something familiar to you (like "angels", "spiritual mentors" or dead father for example) in such a way to manipulate you.

Perhaps I once saw in the hallucination or dream (I'm not so crazy to believe in such things) one of them. This can't be real i think, but just in case if i wrong, if it still exists there are no angels as it is portrayed in churches, this is not their real appearance - in fact they look different and are forced to take on an anthropomorphic appearance because most people would frighten to hell by their real appearance: this "i don't know what" has big horns on their heads, head that looks like a dragon's head (as they are usually portrayed), they have different eyes - eyes of a predator, but they are not look like stupid scary monsters at all - the one that I saw was very beautiful, perfect, very intelligent it seems (more than humans i bet). They use very advanced technology, computers, electronic devices, as well as nanotechnology (looks alike) (?), this is not magic, all these "spiritual things" - this seems to be a very advanced technology.

I have a theory about who they are if they really exist (i think this not some aliens): perhaps it is the result of the evolution of dinosaurs to intelligent life forms, source for legends about different dragons that for some unknown reason can be found on all continents (how could ancient people on different continents believe in the same creatures?). Their civilization maybe was here before and they reached a technological singularity and created a real AI - now they live in simulations and create new ones, they are the legitimate owners of this planet because were here for millions of years before humans.
 
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throwaway123

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Aug 5, 2018
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Most of the people in the simulation would play it safe and see the simulation out to its natural conclusion, but then others would see through this matrix and want to escape it. The simulation could be testing the players to see who can overcome the survival instinct - the hardest task of all. Whoa!
I don't think the survival instinct is the key here.
Most people that CTB are so desperate that they have no other choice. They take the fastest way out. Maybe it's a train or a bridge. Who knows.

What I'm trying to say is that the people here want to die but not in pain. We desire peaceful methods. This is why most here who've used SN or N are succesful.

I'm glad you're back but also very sorry that you have to be here again.....
I have to say I kind of missed your presence here.
Me too lol! I don't think it is.
But what if it is?
 
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riverstyx

Experienced
May 31, 2019
218
I like the simulation theory. A highly advanced species, maybe future humans, subject themselves to a totally believable simulation.

Maybe for some higher purpose. They subject themselves to both a happy existence, that some people seem to enjoy, and a miserable existence (tell me about it). The goal is to learn and grow as a person. To become humble, wise and empathetic.

Isn't that what the hindus believe? Rebirth until you achieve enlightenment? Life is a kind of punishment you receive until you reach a higher level of consciousness. If you misbehave your next life may he spent as a mistreated dog.

So when I finally die, I'll wake up in the real world, rubbing my eyes while saying "wow, what a rush!".
 
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Mljonzy

Student
Aug 21, 2018
145
Have you heard of the big crunch theory ? That's my worst nightmare just reliving the same life over and over for eternity it better not happen.
 
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Volatile

God
Jun 18, 2018
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I don't think the survival instinct is the key here.
Most people that CTB are so desperate that they have no other choice. They take the fastest way out. Maybe it's a train or a bridge. Who knows.

What I'm trying to say is that the people here want to die but not in pain. We desire peaceful methods. This is why most here who've used SN or N are succesful.

I'm glad you're back but also very sorry that you have to be here again.....
I have to say I kind of missed your presence here.

But what if it is?
Thanks for the kind words.
 
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johnonymous

Member
Jun 6, 2019
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Have you heard of the big crunch theory ? That's my worst nightmare just reliving the same life over and over for eternity it better not happen.

The current consensus among physicists is that the rate of expansion of the universe suggests it'll end either in a Big Freeze or Big Rip rather than a Big Crunch.

https://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/topics_bigbang_bigcrunch.html

If so, there's no chance of recurrence. Unless there's an infinite number of universes, in which case you and I are happy in some and miserable in others. But if communication between the universes is impossible, as appears to be the case, then none of the "yous" or "mes" could ever know about the happiness or unhappiness of the others.
 
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KnightOfEnceladus

Lost child in time
May 20, 2019
231
@Faraway1990: what do you do instead, then? I may be catching the bus rather soon and want to go into this as close to 100% prepared as possible. If we don't go into the light, what should we then do?
 
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Oblivion Lover

No life, no suffering
May 30, 2019
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I'd be sooo pissed off if I discovered that this miserable existence I'm trapped on is some kind of experiment forced upon me by a superior species. Once I woke up on the real "reality", I would destroy everyone involved on it or die (again) trying. For now I can only hope that there's not any form of afterlife.
 
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Faraway1990

Student
Jun 2, 2019
195
@Faraway1990: what do you do instead, then? I may be catching the bus rather soon and want to go into this as close to 100% prepared as possible. If we don't go into the light, what should we then do?
The most important thing to remember about the light is it's a trap this reality with its focus on economic slavery and all the elements of control the system feeds off us and the interdimensional/multidimensional beings who run it feed off us and keep us in a state of forgetfulness and they will do anything to get you to re enter the matrix but they can't force you to. Turn away just turn away focus on exiting the matrix and going home and you will be able to "walk" through and once you have you will remember who you are. This matrix keeps us in a state of forgetfulness and continuously re processes us to be used as food. Note this "light" can appear as different things depending what you believe but at the end of the day it shows as a portal of some kind and walking through it is tantamount to signing a contract. There's a whole uni-verse and Beyond to experience beyond this earthly life experience. I'll be CTB soon too I send you my intention to leave this matrix successfuly my friend.
I'd be sooo pissed off if I discovered that this miserable existence I'm trapped on is some kind of experiment forced upon me by a superior species. Once I woke up on the real "reality", I would destroy everyone involved on it or die (again) trying. For now I can only hope that there's not any form of afterlife.
This reality is an illusion albeit a persistent one it's just one experience a rigged experience I encourage you to not be closed minded about an "afterlife" how many people die and get stuck because they decide to be in denial of the reality afterwards in suffering. I'm not going to sell you a story that everything is love and light or anything but not wanting an existence beyond this one is just going to lead to more suffering. But I am not forcing my views on you friend <3 I wish you the best whatever how you feel that is for your journey.
 
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Lisa

Specialist
May 9, 2018
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Most of the people in the simulation would play it safe and see the simulation out to its natural conclusion, but then others would see through this matrix and want to escape it. The simulation could be testing the players to see who can overcome the survival instinct - the hardest task of all. Whoa!
I have thought this same exact thought. I luv this posting.
If I could give you any advice it be whenever you cross Don't step into the "light" that's a one way ticket to come back here or a similar reality experience. There's a whole universe and beyond of creation.
I've heard this concept. That the light leads to reincarnation. How do people know this? And how do they know that not stepping into it doesn't lead to it. I feel that our ability to know these things are limited until we get there.
 
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