Discussion Have you ever been sectioned?

[JipJopMop]

Have you ever been sectioned for wanting to ctb?

I'm scared I might get sectioned for wanting to ctb.
My therapist seemed quite concerned with how I've been feeling.

He didn't mention sectioning but I'm worried it might happen down the line.

I don't want to be sectioned, I don't want to be forced to take them shitty pills.

In the past when I was badly wanting to ctb, I went to A&E but they never did anything, just gave me an assessment and that was it.

Last year I had a community mental health teak assessment and they said I'm not clinically depressed because I clean my teeth. It is just bs

Anyway I like my freedom so I don't wanna get sectioned, my therapist is calling me in a couple of days to check up on me as he is worried

 

[Trisolaris]

Where I am from it's not enough to have suicidal thoughts but they need you to have a concrete plan and a statement from you that you will act upon it. My psychiatrist knows I'm suicidal but she can't do anything about it because of the above.

 

[JipJopMop]

Where I am from it's not enough to have suicidal thoughts but they need you to have a concrete plan and a statement from you that you will act upon it. My psychiatrist knows I'm suicidal but she can't do anything about it because of the above.

Oh cool, could I ask where you are from?

I hope it is the same where I'm from, I'm not gonna sign any statement like that.

 

[HopelessFight]

Yes.

I threatened with suicide on Facebook. Someone called the police. I gave them my location, which was next to a train track, and sat down 20 minutes before they arrived.

They were very emphatic and they were surprised how calm and co-operative I was even though I didn't drug myself, until they got a more urgent call and I was handed over to a co-worker who treated me like a criminal with harsh words and put me in a cell for about 45 minutes, until the other cops came back.

They called a doctor to assess me. This doctor spoke to me for 2 minutes (!) and wrote on a paper I was a danger to myself and refusing voluntary treatment (which wasn't even discussed). Under police assistance, I was brought to a closed section of a psychiatric ward.

I was called to the psychiatrist. He asked me what happened. I asked him if he had some time because it's a long story. His reply: "sorry, I only have 5 minutes per patient per day". Other than this 5 minute conversation each day, I was locked up with heavily psychotic patients, doing nothing all day.

After 5 days I had to appear to a judge. That judge called family members who I was in a fight with before the court case, which is apparently normal procedure. She believed anything they said and wanted to keep me there. Luckily, the lawyer I was assigned to kept insisting saying keeping me was unlawful. This discussion between my lawyer and the judge took at least 15 minutes. What I said myself didn't matter, I was just the psychiatric patient for the judge and she looked at my lawyer when I tried to say something. At the end, the judge gave up and said "OK then, go home". One hour later, I was given a court order stating I needed to be released immediately.

The nurses at the ward were very emphatic and knew I didn't belong there. The doctors were horrible.

I'll never return there. I prefer to something illegal and go to prison (at least you have legal rights) or CTB.

This was in Belgium in case you're wondering. The full story is much worse than this.

 

[JipJopMop]

Yes.

I threatened with suicide on Facebook. Someone called the police. I gave them my location, which was next to a train track, and sat down 20 minutes before they arrived.

They were very emphatic and they were surprised how calm and co-operation I was even though I didn't drug myself, until they got a more urgent call and I was handed over to a co-worker who treated me like a criminal with harsh words and put me in a cell for about 45 minutes, until the other cops came back.

They called a doctor to assess me. This doctor spoke to me for 2 minutes (!) and wrote on a paper I was a danger to myself and refusing voluntary treatment (which wasn't even discussed). Under police assistance, I was brought to a closed section of a psychiatric ward.

I was called to the psychiatrist. He asked me what happened. I asked him if he had some time because it's a long story. His reply: "sorry, I only have 5 minutes per patient per day". Other than this 5 minute conversation each day, I was locked up with heavily psychotic patients.

After 5 days I had to appear to a judge. That judge called family members who I was in a fight with before the court case, which is apparently normal procedure. She believed anything they said and wanted to keep me there. Luckily, the lawyer I was assigned to kept insisting saying keeping me was unlawful. At the end, the judge gave up and said "OK then, go home". One hour later, I was given a paper stating I needed to be released immediately.

The nurses at the ward were very emphatic and knew I didn't belong there. The doctors were horrible.

I'll never return there. I prefer to something illegal and go to prison (at least you have legal rights) or CTB.

This was in Belgium in case you're wondering. The full story is much worse than this.

Oh gosh, that sounds awful. It's good you didn't have to stay there for too long.

 

[WornOutLife]

Not sectioned but I was very close to go there!
Instead, they decided to make me lose my freedom and I became a prisoner in my parents' house for almost 6 months. Also, I was monitored 24/7.
If I ever try to ctb again, failing will not be an option.
What's more, I know I'll end up in a psych ward next time.

 

[HopelessFight]

Oh gosh, that sounds awful. It's good you didn't have to stay there for too long.

I was very lucky. Because Belgian law only gives 2 options for the judges: immediately release or extended stay for 40 days.

I asked if, in case I needed to stay 40 days, I could appeal. The doctor had a good laugh. Yes, I could, but the appeal would not be handled before the 40 days would be over. It's just fake justice.

 

[Mentalmick]

No, you would have to commit genocide to get sectioned in Scotland, even then it would be touch and go.

 

[WaitingForTheBusInTh]

Yup. 2 weeks in an adult psych ward when I was 15. Patients were of all levels of addiction withdrawl and mental illness and I was straight up terrified of a few of them. I only saw a doctor when I was being discharged and wasnt allowed shoelaces.
When my mom was taking me up we were told I would get all kinds of help and then when we got there they said they just keep people from offing themselves and that's it.
This is in Canada.

 

[ZardozOmega]

yeah

it was okay i guess

 

[saltshaker]

I didn't even mention suicide the second time. Now i have no idea what will set them off...

Not going back to that BS anytime soon.

 

[untimelydemise]

yep... 8 months, 6 months and a few weeks

 

[CatabolicSeed]

Yes and it only made everything worse

 

[Mentalmick]

Sectioning's for pussies. Life in a secure hospital for the criminally insane is where it's at.

 

[BandAddict]

Yeah, 5 times. Some were voluntary, some involuntary. Usually after an attempt or because I'm deemed as a danger to myself and others.

 

[booray]

Yes, twice. Neither time because I was deemed a danger to myself or others. Both times because I was experiencing meth-induced psychosis and having hallucinations.

 

[LiesAndLigatures]

Multiple times, all in 2014. That is actually what made me suicidal, and I never recovered. Still can't recover. I had mild depression and passive suicidal ideation, with no plans or intent. My therapist called the cops, and I ended up admitted. After that, everything went downhill. Now, I have pretty severe PTSD from the events in there, and some stuff that happened afterwards that is directly related to my time in there. My depression is severe and completely untreatable (over 30 different psych meds, multiple types of therapies, blah blah blah...). I can't go back to trying treatment, knowing what happens.

I was a teenager with some social issues. Now I'm a grown man who can't take a shower without a panic attack. I have constant emotional and hallucinatory flashbacks. My life went from 60% decent and 40% struggles, to 97% suffering with only small rays of sunshine.

This was all in the USA, in case you were wondering how each individual country handles their sections.

 

[booray]

Multiple times, all in 2014. That is actually what made me suicidal, and I never recovered. Still can't recover. I had mild depression and passive suicidal ideation, with no plans or intent. My therapist called the cops, and I ended up admitted. After that, everything went downhill. Now, I have pretty severe PTSD from the events in there, and some stuff that happened afterwards that is directly related to my time in there. My depression is severe and completely untreatable (over 30 different psych meds, multiple types of therapies, blah blah blah...). I can't go back to trying treatment, knowing what happens.

I was a teenager with some social issues. Now I'm a grown man who can't take a shower without a panic attack. I have constant emotional and hallucinatory flashbacks. My life went from 60% decent and 40% struggles, to 97% suffering with only small rays of sunshine.

This was all in the USA, in case you were wondering how each individual country handles their sections.

I hope you dropped that therapist like a hot potato.

 

[LiesAndLigatures]

I hope you dropped that therapist like a hot potato.

I did, and then got burned by other providers. Treatment just isn't worth the risk of having my freedom taken away again. When I end my life, atleast it will be on my own terms.

 

[JipJopMop]

Multiple times, all in 2014. That is actually what made me suicidal, and I never recovered. Still can't recover. I had mild depression and passive suicidal ideation, with no plans or intent. My therapist called the cops, and I ended up admitted. After that, everything went downhill. Now, I have pretty severe PTSD from the events in there, and some stuff that happened afterwards that is directly related to my time in there. My depression is severe and completely untreatable (over 30 different psych meds, multiple types of therapies, blah blah blah...). I can't go back to trying treatment, knowing what happens.

I was a teenager with some social issues. Now I'm a grown man who can't take a shower without a panic attack. I have constant emotional and hallucinatory flashbacks. My life went from 60% decent and 40% struggles, to 97% suffering with only small rays of sunshine.

This was all in the USA, in case you were wondering how each individual country handles their sections.

Oh my god, that is absolutely horrible. I'm sorry to hear you have been through all that crap. These systems can be so messed up.

 

[elfgyoza]

Have you ever been sectioned for wanting to ctb?

I'm scared I might get sectioned for wanting to ctb.
My therapist seemed quite concerned with how I've been feeling.

He didn't mention sectioning but I'm worried it might happen down the line.

I don't want to be sectioned, I don't want to be forced to take them shitty pills.

In the past when I was badly wanting to ctb, I went to A&E but they never did anything, just gave me an assessment and that was it.

Last year I had a community mental health teak assessment and they said I'm not clinically depressed because I clean my teeth. It is just bs

Anyway I like my freedom so I don't wanna get sectioned, my therapist is calling me in a couple of days to check up on me as he is worried

Are you in the UK? I got sectioned in December and I'm still stuck in hospital, although I'm not on a section anymore (they trust me to not run away..). It's really hard to get sectioned, it only happened to me because my CPN knew I had the means, I'd tried in the past, and I was saying stuff that made her believe I wasn't making any plans to go home for Christmas. There's more freedom in these places than I thought there would be, I've refused my meds for a few days before, and they're only allowed to restrain someone and force meds if they're an immediate threat to other people. I'm not saying to outright lie, but if you value your freedom then do your best to avoid hospitals...

 

[SparkleWater]

Where I am from it's not enough to have suicidal thoughts but they need you to have a concrete plan and a statement from you that you will act upon it. My psychiatrist knows I'm suicidal but she can't do anything about it because of the above.

same.

 

[Silver]

Are you in the UK? I got sectioned in December and I'm still stuck in hospital, although I'm not on a section anymore (they trust me to not run away..). It's really hard to get sectioned, it only happened to me because my CPN knew I had the means, I'd tried in the past, and I was saying stuff that made her believe I wasn't making any plans to go home for Christmas. There's more freedom in these places than I thought there would be, I've refused my meds for a few days before, and they're only allowed to restrain someone and force meds if they're an immediate threat to other people. I'm not saying to outright lie, but if you value your freedom then do your best to avoid hospitals...

This is why I am avoiding telling anyone. Being in hospital since Christmas?? Definitely something I don't want to experience. I was sectioned for 3 weeks a few years ago, that was more than long enough. Hope you're given a discharge somewhat soon.

 

[elfgyoza]

This is why I am avoiding telling anyone. Being in hospital since Christmas?? Definitely something I don't want to experience. I was sectioned for 3 weeks a few years ago, that was more than long enough. Hope you're given a discharge somewhat soon.

Yeah not a great experience, but I did made some good friends (who have definitely been helped by being in hospital tbf). I'm informal and I've had enough so I'm asking to be discharged over the next few days lmao