Braindead Atheist

Braindead Atheist

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I am trying to disprove god, so I don't have to worry about "going to hell". I suspect that it depends on my brain and whatever chemicals are present at the time of death, but I want to hear your experience so I can know what to expect(realistically). Was it a vast nothingness? Torture, fire and scary shit? White light? Please be honest. I hate life and I have nothing going for me, I just want this 21 year long nightmare to end.
 
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deadwithoutmusic

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I was curious as to this the other day and googled it. There's a lot of people who have died during surgery or whatever and have been revived and have shared their experiences.

Most of them say it's quite peaceful and you just feel a bliss kind of nothingness which is relieving to know. It might be different for someone who is suicidal which might be interesting.
 
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Braindead Atheist

Braindead Atheist

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I was curious as to this the other day and googled it. There's a lot of people who have died during surgery or whatever and have been revived and have shared their experiences.

Most of them say it's quite peaceful and you just feel a bliss kind of nothingness which is relieving to know. It might be different for someone who is suicidal which might be interesting.
That's what I thought too, and I've researched it. I found very little, I was hoping to find something more here, but I guess that's not going to happen. I'm pretty sure that god is just a fucking hallucinations and heaven is some sort of ancient lie made up by a bunch of stoners. We'd all lie to think that there is something like that waiting for us, but there really isn't. Hell, is a lot like psychoses or nightmare disorder. It seems more likely for some reason. I'm pretty sure my brain is going to fuck me over like it has for my entire life. Or maybe someone will "Pray for me" and I'll be "saved" I can't with Christians. They mean well, they are good people and do great work, but they should just give it up already or find a REAL reason to be good people. My own parents said that they would chose god over me and that they love god more than me and my siblings. BS!!! God is a fucking lie admit it or not. But it would be nice to feel some peace for once and the whole white light stuff. Idk, maybe I'll over dose on DMT.
 
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deadwithoutmusic

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That's what I thought too, and I've researched it. I found very little, I was hoping to find something more here, but I guess that's not going to happen. I'm pretty sure that god is just a fucking hallucinations and heaven is some sort of ancient lie made up by a bunch of stoners. We'd all lie to think that there is something like that waiting for us, but there really isn't. Hell, is a lot like psychoses or nightmare disorder. It seems more likely for some reason. I'm pretty sure my brain is going to fuck me over like it has for my entire life. Or maybe someone will "Pray for me" and I'll be "saved" I can't with Christians. They mean well, they are good people and do great work, but they should just give it up already or find a REAL reason to be good people. My own parents said that they would chose god over me and that they love god more than me and my siblings. BS!!! God is a fucking lie admit it or not. But it would be nice to feel some peace for once and the whole white light stuff. Idk, maybe I'll over dose on DMT.

I think regardless of what state your brain is in when you die it will most likely be peaceful and you will just fade out of existence feeling bliss nothingness. Atleast this is what I believe and it will help me make my decision.

I agree, heaven and hell just seem like fantasy. It's much more logical to think of the afterlife as nothingness than some magical land when there's no proof and our world is nothing magical. But believe in whatever you want to believe in, no one can know for sure, whatever makes you happy.
 
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Why does existence of god imply the existence of heaven and/or hell for you?

I think our ideas of heaven and hell originate from long-forgotten stories that got embedded in our collective subconscious. For instance, if humans did originate in Africa, we must have somehow made it through the deserts of Sahara – stories about this struggle are enough to have inspired the descendants of those who travelled through the arid, hellish landscapes after living in lush jungles to come up with an idea of hell.

I believe all the stories we tell, including religions, bear some truth. But I don't believe this necessarily bears on what happens to us after we die.
 
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Lordsudbury

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I died and came back to life but it wasn't a suicide attempt it was just too much drugs after a fun night (I may add I am not a regular drug user for over ten years).

Anyways I basically just faded out into nothingness. Pure blackness like how you can't ever remember falling asleep but for some reason you are just asleep and it is dark. That's it. Then it's over.

Was really surprised when I opened my eyes again.
 
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I died and came back to life but it wasn't a suicide attempt it was just too much drugs after a fun night (I may add I am not a regular drug user for over ten years).

Anyways I basically just faded out into nothingness. Pure blackness like how you can't ever remember falling asleep but for some reason you are just asleep and it is dark. That's it. Then it's over.

Was really surprised when I opened my eyes again.

Was it peaceful? Was it a positive experience? It sounds really nice to me but I would like to hear what you have to say.
 
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Believe or not but the bad thing is that youll never trully die or dissapear, the good thing is that youll never die. If you have experienced dreams then you kinda should know what is lucid dreams or OBE (you can create everything in there same after your death, use creativity and create worlds or whatever. Be god, be limitless, be a plant, be abuser, be abused, be a pope, chose not to be born in this lower physical realm, omnipresent or whatever). Out of body experiences is similar what can wait after you physical body drops dead. Human brain cant comprehend this but you wont stop being conscious ,never ever. Never.
 
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Lordsudbury

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Was it peaceful? Was it a positive experience? It sounds really nice to me but I would like to hear what you have to say.
It was very peaceful. Not that my life needed that experience, and I was very grateful when I came back. Well it was hell and I was in the hospital with brain damage for a while, but after I started coming to...

I had just gotten quite a large tattoo that I was regretting and my girlfriend hated it. But after I came back it didn't matter. I realized how precious life was and little things like that don't matter because you could die at any moment from events you don't even expect.

Very life changing experience.

But here we are. Yes, the death experience was very nice. Almost a bit like an extended DMT trip. Kaleidoscopic and ethereal, into the infinite bliss of space and nothing. The dissolution of ego and then everything is gone like a drip that finally went out. Calling it nirvana is not far from the truth.
 
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outofluck

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I have survived six suicide (overdose) attempts. About five of those I lost consciousness and expected to die then woke up. Usually very ill and messed up after. Don't remember a thing after passing out. Knowing I was about to die was never peaceful. Always emotionally painful and kind of excruciating TBH. I'm not trying to discourage anyone but this is my truth. Also very painful that I woke up each time when I really didn't want to

Im also personally certain that if there is a hell, we are in it. That's the life I've endured. Endless repetition of torture.
 
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Weary Soul

Weary Soul

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... Im also personally certain that if there is a hell, we are in it. That's the life I've endured. Endless repetition of torture.

I have often thought this is the case. Life is hell.
 
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Lordsudbury

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I have survived six suicide (overdose) attempts. About five of those I lost consciousness and expected to die then woke up. Usually very ill and messed up after. Don't remember a thing after passing out. Knowing I was about to die was never peaceful. Always emotionally painful and kind of excruciating TBH. I'm not trying to discourage anyone but this is my truth. Also very painful that I woke up each time when I really didn't want to

Im also personally certain that if there is a hell, we are in it. That's the life I've endured. Endless repetition of torture.
Same for me but just once. Very emotional; I felt shame that my name would be in the news and my mom would ultimately find out that's how I died. But the death was peaceful, after the terrifying feeling of a heart attack lol. And I was very grateful when I woke up although I was pretty fucked up for like 2 weeks
 
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Kat!

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No experience personally, just anecdotes from different accounts, but it can vary.
Some people had crazy "heaven" like dreams, some saw total black (like brain death victims).
It's hard to say, but if I had to imagine what death is like, it's like going to sleep, no dreams, and you don't wake up.
 
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x~Sophia~x

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I have often thought this is the case. Life is hell.

But life isn't hell for the majority is it... so you can only see it from the minority's point of view.
 
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Weary Soul

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But life isn't hell for the majority is it... so you can only see it from the minority's point of view.

I can only truly see/feel/understand from my experiences. My life has been hell.

I can empathize with others and what they have gone through, but I cannot really know it unless I have gone through it, or it was somewhat similar to what I have gone through.

If life has not been hell for the majority of people, then I am very happy for those that did not have to experience this.

And I am well aware that some have had it worse than I have.

I am not speaking of hell in the sense of heaven/hell as defined by religions. Personally, I believe that organized religion is nothing more than a tool used to control the masses, and nothing more than a very widely accepted cult. But again, that is my personal opinion.

If I misunderstood what you meant, my apologies :)

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W’ren

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I've attempted quite a few times with only one time being extremely serious- i am told that i was so close to death that they told my parents to say goodbye.

With that one all i can remember of it is waking up from the coma and being really confused, climbing over the bedrails, my legs buckling underneath me and the woman in the next bed calling out that "she's done it again"

I can't even recall the attempt but apparently the only reason i survived is because i wandered into my parents' room in a confused state and walked into their wall.

So obviously after taking my concoction, unconsciousness was not immediate- confusion came first.

I don't remember anything except suddenly being in that hospital room alive.

I barely survived.

When i understood what had happened i felt like not even "god" wanted me (at the time my beliefs were different
 
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Lordsudbury

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I've attempted quite a few times with only one time being extremely serious- i am told that i was so close to death that they told my parents to say goodbye.

With that one all i can remember of it is waking up from the coma and being really confused, climbing over the bedrails, my legs buckling underneath me and the woman in the next bed calling out that "she's done it again"

I can't even recall the attempt but apparently the only reason i survived is because i wandered into my parents' room in a confused state and walked into their wall.

So obviously after taking my concoction, unconsciousness was not immediate- confusion came first.

I don't remember anything except suddenly being in that hospital room alive.

I barely survived.

When i understood what had happened i felt like not even "god" wanted me (at the time my beliefs were different
What did you do/take?
 
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W’ren

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What did you do/take?

I had a lot of prescription medications- and i took a ton of several of them i'm told. I don't remember the overdose itself- just waking up in the hospital.
This was roughly 15 years ago. Maybe even 20 years.
I was on so many things because they weren't sure what was going on with me mentally.

I've been switched through so many drugs as they tried to find ones that work through the years- it makes my head hurt thinking about it.
 
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I've been dead, but not from suicide. I had some weird coma dreams leading up to it, but I don't remember anything to do with an afterlife or punishment. No major life changes either, except for lots of pain and physical health problems. I pretty strongly believe that if there's a hell, this is it.
 
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Crumbledank

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I am trying to disprove god, so I don't have to worry about "going to hell". I suspect that it depends on my brain and whatever chemicals are present at the time of death, but I want to hear your experience so I can know what to expect(realistically). Was it a vast nothingness? Torture, fire and scary shit? White light? Please be honest. I hate life and I have nothing going for me, I just want this 21 year long nightmare to end.

you don't need to disprove god, the burden of proof is on those saying there is a god.
Plus, proving a negative is next to impossible.

You can certainly *argue* why you think god is a silly or implausible seeming idea; short arguments like "cancer" I think so a pretty efficient job.