Has anyone ever killed themself with a homemade gun?

[mrtime87]

Curious about trying to kill myself self with a homemade gun. I live in Ohio but can't legally obtain a firearm.

I'm desperate to ctb, but can't get a partial to work. I did try argon gas but couldn't secure pure argon.

 

[ham and potatoes]

Why can't you legally obtain a firearm?
I'd never suggest someone break any laws to obtain a gun, but here's a link of gun shows I found in Ohio. Allot of sellers at gun shows are not dealers, and are selling their private collections, so there is no FFA paperwork and background checks
quick Google results
Btw, shotguns and bolt action hunting rifles are less likely to require background checks

 

[mrtime87]

Criminal record and psychiatric stays in hospital.

 

[heliophobic]

I don't know how much I would trust the effectiveness of a homemade gun. What if it winds up not firing? What if it falls apart? What if it blows up in your hand?

 

[mrtime87]

Yeah I guess I'm just desperate.

 

[heliophobic]

Yeah I guess I'm just desperate.

I understand and sympathize. Trust me. It would be awful to survive an attempt with a shoddy gun though. What if it disfigured or disabled you in a horrible way? Hopefully another ctb method can be obtained for you.

 

[mrtime87]

I tried argon but I'm pretty sure I was shipped gas that was mixed with oxygen. Pretty obvious when I live in a trailer park.

The problem is the hole I've gotten myself into because of poor life decisions. I swear I'm an idiot but I pray God gives me an out because I can't live with the shame I've brought up on myself.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

It's happened.

Suicide with a homemade shotgun: case report and review of literature - PubMed

This is a 57-year-old white man with a medical history of depression and recent suicidal ideation that necessitated police response with confiscation of his shotgun. Approximately 3 weeks later he was found by his landlord lifeless on the floor surrounded by a pool of blood.Scene investigation...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Suicide by homemade firearm: a case report - PubMed

This paper presents a unique case of suicide committed by a homemade firearm. A 56-year-old man shot himself with a homemade firearm capable of accommodating and firing 8 mm rifle ammunition. The victim put the muzzle of the weapon on the right side of his skull and died immediately after...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The better question is are you capable of making a homemade gun, and would you be trusting of it enough to kill you, and not just maim you?

 

[mrtime87]

Probably not. I wouldn't even know what I was doing.

 

[Kapsyl]

Anything is possible, early gunsmiths started out with nothing more than a shed making fully functional prototypes from scratch. It all depends on the available tools and skills to operate them.

For example, any mechanical shop would probably be able to produce a single action shotgun or open bolt smg like a sten gun. Not because they have extensive knowledge about guns, but because of these weapon's simplicity and generous margins of error.

A single action shotgun would be the within the realms of what I personally could do, in fact I already come up with a basic design upon writing this post.

I wouldn't really recommend it through unless you're already mechanically and DIY inclined.

 

[mrtime87]

I was thinking a simple slam gun but drilling a hole in an end cap would be problematic.

My situation is pretty dire, which is why I'm asking. I'm pretty much grasping at straws.

 

[heliophobic]

I tried argon but I'm pretty sure I was shipped gas that was mixed with oxygen. Pretty obvious when I live in a trailer park.

The problem is the hole I've gotten myself into because of poor life decisions. I swear I'm an idiot but I pray God gives me an out because I can't live with the shame I've brought up on myself.

Yeah, I hear you there. My life is one big bad decision. That's why I'm 43, always alone, in a shitty apartment with only my cat for company. Never accomplished anything except for my long list of inpatient stays and psych meds I've accumulated over the last 32 years. I don't pray though. I went from agnostic to atheist in 2020.

 

[mrtime87]

I'm a Christian, the problem is I'm a hypocritical Christian. I never tried to repent until it was top late and now have myself in a position that I can't get out of.

We reap what we sow, but I want death to be the final chapter, because of the horrific things I've done.

I know God forgives but that doesn't change our living circumstances. For me, it's how i treated other people, including myself :(

 

[AbusedInnocent]

Pipe weapons are crude, low-tech, widely available... and highly modifiable. They are favored by the Commonwealth's Raider groups.

— Fallout 4 loading screens

Maybe pay your nearest raider settlement a visit?

 

[Kapsyl]

I was thinking a simple slam gun but drilling a hole in an end cap would be problematic.

My situation is pretty dire, which is why I'm asking. I'm pretty much grasping at straws.

Slam gun wouldn't cut it, since you have to reliably aim it and fire it simultaneously. It has to have a mechanically operated firing mechanism to avoid misfire or maim you.

 

[heliophobic]

I'm a Christian, the problem is I'm a hypocritical Christian. I never tried to repent until it was top late and now have myself in a position that I can't get out of.

We reap what we sow, but I want death to be the final chapter, because of the horrific things I've done.

I know God forgives but that doesn't change our living circumstances. For me, it's how i treated other people, including myself :(

Is your behavior any worse than the people who call themselves Christians but are in racial hate groups, political hate groups, I mean I've seen some VILE stuff said and done by people that call themselves Christian. Do you hate yourself more than the people you hurt? I don't mean to be intrusive, I just don't like it when people are as hard on themselves as we are...I feel like I have to say something. But that's just the kindness in me.

 

[mrtime87]

No I'm not into hate groups. I just have a false sense of pride that has caught up with my health and living situation. I struggle with narcissism and when Jesus shows me where I've made mistakes I can only hang my head in shame and embarrassment.

I'm angry he didn't show me these mistakes earlier, but it's my conscious that I was ignoring.

I don't know why I'm childish like this, but my situation has gotten to the point where I can't ignore it.

Is your behavior any worse than the people who call themselves Christians but are in racial hate groups, political hate groups, I mean I've seen some VILE stuff said and done by people that call themselves Christian. Do you hate yourself more than the people you hurt? I don't mean to be intrusive, I just don't like it when people are as hard on themselves as we are...I feel like I have to say something. But that's just the kindness in

 

[Not A Fan]

I tried argon but I'm pretty sure I was shipped gas that was mixed with oxygen. Pretty obvious when I live in a trailer park.

The problem is the hole I've gotten myself into because of poor life decisions. I swear I'm an idiot but I pray God gives me an out because I can't live with the shame I've brought up on myself.

What do you mean you "tried" it? Did you make an attempt with argon that failed? I've seen tanks that are 75% Argon / 25% CO2 but I've only heard of oxygen being mixed in with balloon helium. Argon has to be pure for welding or it will fuck up the workpiece and cost money... good way to lose customers. I've never heard of Argon being "cut" with anything unless the person mistakenly ordered an Argon mixture.

Adding 20% oxygen to balloon helium doesn't affect balloons, they still float. That's why they were able to do that. The argon, for what it is used for, that won't be happening. How would they know you lived in a trailer park if it was shipped to you? I'm planning to use this method so just trying to collect as much information as possible. Thanks.

 

[mrtime87]

I had the exit bag set up and when I put it over my head I didn't pass out. I tried this a few times.

I didn't order the argon tester but unless there was something wrong with my exit bag I'm not sure why else I didn't pass out
They would know I live in a trailer park because I have a gate code and lot number.

Maybe it it was mixed with CO2 not o2. I never tested it but when I put it over my head I definitely did not pass out
They would know I live in a trailer park because I have a gate code and lot number.

Maybe it it was mixed with CO2 not o2. I never tested it but when I put it over my head I definitely did not pass out
They would know I live in a trailer park because I have a gate code and lot number.

Maybe it it was mixed with CO2 not o2. I never tested it but when I put it over my head I definitely did not pass out

 

[derpyderpins]

I live in Ohio but can't legally obtain a firearm.

Go away from the city, find a bar that is full of middle age people and plays country music, sit down and order a pint of miller lite, and talk about how you can't get a gun because of some stupid rule Biden passed. Someone will hook you up.

 

[mrtime87]

Go away from the city, find a bar that is full of middle age people and plays country music, sit down and order a pint of miller lite, and talk about how you can't get a gun because of some stupid rule Biden passed. Someone will hook you up.

Ha probably would work

 

[EternalShore]

I'm a Christian, the problem is I'm a hypocritical Christian. I never tried to repent until it was top late and now have myself in a position that I can't get out of.

We reap what we sow, but I want death to be the final chapter, because of the horrific things I've done.

I know God forgives but that doesn't change our living circumstances. For me, it's how i treated other people, including myself :(

I'm really sorry to hear~ :( I'm sure God will forgive you now that you've realized your sins and have repented of them~ :) While he may not always grant us goodness as I'm sure all other Christians here have experienced before (and figures in the Bible such as Samson and the thief on the cross), but He does give us grace. :) That if we have faith we will get to be with Him in perfection in Heaven! :D

altho, I do wish we truly reaped what we sowed here on Earth~ but that is for the afterlife. For your repentance, you will surely be blessed in Heaven! ^_^ but other people may be very evil and get millions from it~ alas, 'tis a corrupted world~ :(

God bless you, and I wish you the best~ :) praying for you~ :)

 

[Not A Fan]

I had the exit bag set up and when I put it over my head I didn't pass out. I tried this a few times.

I didn't order the argon tester but unless there was something wrong with my exit bag I'm not sure why else I didn't pass out
They would know I live in a trailer park because I have a gate code and lot number.

Maybe it it was mixed with CO2 not o2. I never tested it but when I put it over my head I definitely did not pass out
They would know I live in a trailer park because I have a gate code and lot number.

Well.. I see what you're trying to say. But it's not like there aren't any welders who live in trailer parks.

It's hard to say what might have gone wrong in your case, but you're not the only one who has reported this problem of the exit bag not working as expected (without ever figuring out exactly why.) Apparently it sounds much easier on paper than in it is in actual practice to get one of these damn bags working properly.

One potential issue could be that argon is heavier than air (whereas nitrogen is lighter). Thus nitrogen will rise in a closed space, while argon will sink; this may lead an issue where you are still breathing air and CO2 because the bag isn't being sufficiently flushed. One possible way to address would be increasing the flow rate on the regulator; some have suggested 25lpm for argon, compared to 15lpm for nitrogen. Consequently this means using up the gas almost 2x as quickly, so a larger tank would be ideal.

I'm much less concerned about the possibility that welding companies would deliberately sell defective argon... this has only ever been reported with helium for balloons (which the added air doesn't affect). So my intuition is that your attempt failed not due to the argon, but to some other factor. If you can check your receipt or packing slip for the cylinder it should state clearly if the contents is 100%argon or if it is a 75%argon/25%CO2 mixture.