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iDieUDie80

iDieUDie80

Arcanist
Jul 6, 2020
403
So long as you place the noose beneath your jaw and above your Adam's apple, will you only compress the carotids and not compress the jugular veins, causing a head exploding feeling?
 
torimandy

torimandy

Fear is the mind killer
Aug 3, 2020
146
Hanging was never designed to be a suffocation method. The key is to tie the right knot and set for a drop in relation to your body weight so the rope breaks your neck causing an instant death. I can't even inagine suffering through a hanginging death were suffocation was the goal as the commitment required is far more than most peole have. Death can take minutes instead of being instant as hanging is supposed to be. I was used in the past as a death penalty method as it was more humane than other options cause a quick and painless death if done properly.
 
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iDieUDie80

iDieUDie80

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Hanging was never designed to be a suffocation method. The key is to tie the right knot and set for a drop in relation to your body weight so the rope breaks your neck causing an instant death. I can't even inagine suffering through a hanginging death were suffocation was the goal as the commitment required is far more than most peole have. Death can take minutes instead of being instant as hanging is supposed to be. I was used in the past as a death penalty method as it was more humane than other options cause a quick and painless death if done properly.
Compressing the carotids is not the same as suffocation. You're thinking of the trachea. By compressing the carotids, you should pass out in just 10 seconds due to low/no oxygenated blood flow to the brain.
 
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torimandy

torimandy

Fear is the mind killer
Aug 3, 2020
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Compressing the carotids is not the same as suffocation. You're thinking of the trachea. By compressing the carotids, you should pass out in just 10 seconds due to low/no oxygenated blood flow to the brain.
Yes, but passing out and ending life are two very different thing. As I said, with a proper knot and a three foot drop it yield instant death, not instant unconsciousness that could lead to a third arty messing it up. it will still take a minimum of three to 5 minutes if executed improperly. Passed out or not.
 
Thin Chew

Thin Chew

世界以痛吻我 要我报之以歌
Mar 3, 2019
254
Hanging isn't easy and not everytime you can do it correctly. For me, I tried 3-4 times and only 1 times I got the feeling of passing out soon. I regret chickening out during that moment because I know if I continue, ignoring the feeling, I won't be here today. Now when I try to get back that feeling just to die. It's like impossible because everytime I do, I only feel suffocation and not the feeling like last time, almost passed out
 
iDieUDie80

iDieUDie80

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Jul 6, 2020
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Hanging isn't easy and not everytime you can do it correctly. For me, I tried 3-4 times and only 1 times I got the feeling of passing out soon. I regret chickening out during that moment because I know if I continue, ignoring the feeling, I won't be here today. Now when I try to get back that feeling just to die. It's like impossible because everytime I do, I only feel suffocation and not the feeling like last time, almost passed out
1. Did you place the rope above your Adam's apple and below and your jaw?
2. Was this low suspension or full suspension hanging?
 
Thin Chew

Thin Chew

世界以痛吻我 要我报之以歌
Mar 3, 2019
254
1. Did you place the rope above your Adam's apple and below and your jaw?
2. Was this low suspension or full suspension hanging?
1) Yes I place it ON Adam apples, and also below and above. The feeling of passing out just doesn't seems coming back anymore. I guess it's just lucky that I successfully have the feeling of passing out once but I chickened out.

2) low suspension
 
Jon86

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Apr 9, 2018
369
Slipknot, practice with the noose placement, jugulars don't matter you need enough pressure to block the carotid(s). Passing out will not be painful outside of the localized pain from the rope digging into the skin, it is a fading to black.

Go to a jiu jitsu class, ask somebody to put you into a chokehold, partial suspension hanging will feel exactly the same. Only difference is the rope is generally not as quick as a skilled grappler and feels a little bit sharper.

This type of hanging is one of the most peaceful and effective ways to die, 99% of people who die DO NOT break there necks even those who do full suspension and most people 'hang' themselves with there feet on the ground anyway.

The difficulty with this method comes with the SI, as you slowly fade to black, it's very hard to not abort. It is not an instanteous decision, it's similar to drowning (less pain, probably less frightening overall), simple enough in theory but hard in practice to fully commit in the moment. If you have things holding you back, they will likely surface during the attempt, if nothing else you will learn from the experience(s).
 
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世界以痛吻我 要我报之以歌
Mar 3, 2019
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Slipknot, practice with the noose placement, jugulars don't matter you need enough pressure to block the carotid(s). Passing out will not be painful outside of the localized pain from the rope digging into the skin, it is a fading to black.

Go to a jiu jitsu class, ask somebody to put you into a chokehold, partial suspension hanging will feel exactly the same. Only difference is the rope is generally not as quick as a skilled grappler and feels a little bit sharper.

This type of hanging is one of the most peaceful and effective ways to die, 99% of people who die DO NOT break there necks even those who do full suspension and most people 'hang' themselves with there feet on the ground anyway.

The difficulty with this method comes with the SI, as you slowly fade to black, it's very hard to not abort. It is not an instanteous decision, it's similar to drowning (less pain, probably less frightening overall), simple enough in theory but hard in practice to fully commit in the moment. If you have things holding you back, they will likely surface during the attempt, if nothing else you will learn from the experience(s).
The point is, death thats unpainful like this is 100% hard to do because who else is that lucky to success in a try without knowing the success rate before someone try it. We might use our only chance to do it but end up suffering and suffocating to death. Those who really dies by the method you said without pain must be really really lucky. And when I said lucky. It's really damn lucky
 
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Apr 26, 2020
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Given the proximity and relative strength of arteries vs veins, you aren't going to practically compress the carotids and not the jugular. Compressing the carotids is the key. I know what your reasoning is and what you are describing. Compressing the carotids avoids the feeling.
 
Jon86

Jon86

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Apr 9, 2018
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The point is, death thats unpainful like this is 100% hard to do because who else is that lucky to success in a try without knowing the success rate before someone try it. We might use our only chance to do it but end up suffering and suffocating to death. Those who really dies by the method you said without pain must be really really lucky. And when I said lucky. It's really damn lucky
I've seen the deaths of more than a few people online with this method and they more often than not have really poor setups. If you practice, try different ligatures, positions and use a proper running noose like a slipknot, tied to a solid structure it is 'relatively' a very reliable method. I don't recommend anyone watch videos of suicide but i've seen plenty of full suspensions without a proper noose from very dingy ceiling fans, also seen plenty of survivors of cutting that have damn near decapitated themselves.

1, Make sure nobody will find you within at least an hour. Do it behind a locked door when nobody is home or suspecting, worst case scenario is your are cut down 10-15 mins after passing out.
2. Make sure your rope won't break and whatever support structure you'll be using won't break
3. Tie a running noose

There have been a user or two in the past on here that said they'd passed out then seized and woken up (noose probably loosened), I suppose that is possible but if it happens it'll happen well before brain damage has set in. Full suspension (non drop) would probably erase this possibility.

Chester Bennington (linkin park), Anthony Bourdain, Robin Williams and Chris Cornell (soundgarden) are a few famous folk who have used partial suspension to end it. I recall seeing photos from Cornell's hotel room, he used a stretchy exercise pilates type of ligature, his set-up seemed mediocre from what I could tell.

There is always a chance of it not working, I understand those fears. The pain is real although if you use enough pressure in the correct spot it isn't too bad (depends on your own anatomy, the ligature etc.) and just localized to the neck.
 
Thin Chew

Thin Chew

世界以痛吻我 要我报之以歌
Mar 3, 2019
254
I've seen the deaths of more than a few people online with this method and they more often than not have really poor setups. If you practice, try different ligatures, positions and use a proper running noose like a slipknot, tied to a solid structure it is 'relatively' a very reliable method. I don't recommend anyone watch videos of suicide but i've seen plenty of full suspensions without a proper noose from very dingy ceiling fans, also seen plenty of survivors of cutting that have damn near decapitated themselves.

1, Make sure nobody will find you within at least an hour. Do it behind a locked door when nobody is home or suspecting, worst case scenario is your are cut down 10-15 mins after passing out.
2. Make sure your rope won't break and whatever support structure you'll be using won't break
3. Tie a running noose

There have been a user or two in the past on here that said they'd passed out then seized and woken up (noose probably loosened), I suppose that is possible but if it happens it'll happen well before brain damage has set in. Full suspension (non drop) would probably erase this possibility.

Chester Bennington (linkin park), Anthony Bourdain, Robin Williams and Chris Cornell (soundgarden) are a few famous folk who have used partial suspension to end it. I recall seeing photos from Cornell's hotel room, he used a stretchy exercise pilates type of ligature, his set-up seemed mediocre from what I could tell.

There is always a chance of it not working, I understand those fears. The pain is real although if you use enough pressure in the correct spot it isn't too bad (depends on your own anatomy, the ligature etc.) and just localized to the neck.
Yea. I tried it before and failed. The pain came from the failed test isn't good. It's extremely painful and uncomfortable. All I wish was a painless death
 

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