Hanging verses drowning in lake/sea

[ausiegal]

Am I silly to think that drowning is easier than hanging (full suspension)?

I'm nervous that I'll stuff up hanging, despite having read so many of the threads on SaSu multiple times.
And I feel like I'll struggle to find the courage to kick the chair/stool.

So I'm thinking about rowing out into the middle of a large lake nearby. I will drink some alcohol before getting into the water. Then I'll use a knife to pop the inflatable boat. It will be the middle of the night & quite cold, so I'll either die by drowning/hypothermia/exhaustion.

I'll probably need to attach some weights to myself won't I?

I am in Australia, so I don't have access to SN etc, or any other form of drugs. These are really my only two options, unless I want to look at trains which isn't fair on the driver.

 

[FuneralCry]

I'd fear the hanging method failing as well, it terrifies me how such could happen. Personally I really wish there are accessible painless poisons, it's so cruel to me how it's this difficult to die. But anyway I wish you all the best, I hope that you find what you search for.

 

[null_blank]

I saw that someone else here OD'd on sleepers/allergy meds with a downer ingredient before putting a belt around their neck and a closet rod, taking their SI out of the hang game to ctb successfully.

The hypothermic lake trip sounds like a solid idea. Tbh I'd probably make a little puncture on shore to assure a one way ticket

but that's me.

Winter, as they say, is coming, but I've so little non-public water near me that a quiet leaving as such would be quite the difficulty.

I hope you can find a peaceful exit.

 

[anime]

yeah i kind of agree, stuffing up hanging does tend to happen and idk if i could either do it just the fact of kicking the chair from out beneath me is scary and would it be able to support my weight because it would suck for it to break on me if i did get the courage to do that and i do feel you there with the lack of access since here in australia access to a lot of ways to CTB are just very restricted for no reason so we can't really do them.
i do think attempt to drown in the middle of a cold lake rn would be ideal since it is winter and pretty cold at the moment, since u have 3 ways drowning/hypothermia/exhaustion and at night as well will be so much more colder and no one else would be at the lake. seems like a sure-fire way to CTB

 

[ausiegal]

Thanks all, I appreciate your comments & this group!

Any thoughts on what I should wear? Clothes to weigh me down, or less clothing to make me get cold more quickly?

 

[null_blank]

Thanks all, I appreciate your comments & this group!

Any thoughts on what I should wear? Clothes to weigh me down, or less clothing to make me get cold more quickly?

I should think one wear heavier pieces, to weigh down and make the struggle more tiring.

A tighter low-temp sweater to hold extra water under a too-large piece to complicate movement and the clunkiest boots!

 

[Old]

If you are going to drown you probably want to use the deodorant method (inhale deodorant spray through a towel, then hold your breath). This will make you lose oxygen.

 

[ausiegal]

Ooo thank you - I didn't think of heavy boots! Gosh you guys are good at thinking this stuff through!

Feel free to send through any other thoughts you have

 

[ausiegal]

If you are going to drown you probably want to use the deodorant method (inhale deodorant spray through a towel, then hold your breath). This will make you lose oxygen.

Thank you! I just tried this and I think it actually works (didn't do it long enough to pass out, but felt dizzy and almost did pass out).
Any tips on using deodorant can verses paint aerosol can?
I'll also review the posts on SaSu about this!

 

[Old]

Thank you! I just tried this and I think it actually works (didn't do it long enough to pass out, but felt dizzy and almost did pass out).
Any tips on using deodorant can verses paint aerosol can?
I'll also review the posts on SaSu about this!

I've never tried paint aerosol

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Am I silly to think that drowning is easier than hanging (full suspension)?

I'm nervous that I'll stuff up hanging, despite having read so many of the threads on SaSu multiple times.
And I feel like I'll struggle to find the courage to kick the chair/stool.

So I'm thinking about rowing out into the middle of a large lake nearby. I will drink some alcohol before getting into the water. Then I'll use a knife to pop the inflatable boat. It will be the middle of the night & quite cold, so I'll either die by drowning/hypothermia/exhaustion.

I'll probably need to attach some weights to myself won't I?

I am in Australia, so I don't have access to SN etc, or any other form of drugs. These are really my only two options, unless I want to look at trains which isn't fair on the driver.

Sounds like a good plan. Weights are a good idea.

 

[KillingPain267]

Sounds like a good idea, especially for someone who never learned to float, let alone swim. It's just, doesn't it take longer to lose consciousness drowning compared to hanging?

 

[sugarb]

You're actually very right. Believe it or not drowning is the second most lethal commonly available method statistically, right between firearms at #1 and hanging at #3. Water is incredibly deadly if you weigh yourself down.

 

[deepocean]

Drowning is better ig

 

[ausiegal]

Thanks for your replies, it amazes me how this place is full of so many supportive people - I suppose we all have a shared understanding here

It sounds like drowning is definitely a lethal option, but the more I read about it the pain scares me.
I suppose any death is painful, but it's making me reconsider my method.
I wish there was an easy and painless option, but that seems to be a dream :-(

 

[Holu]

Not that it necessarily helps, but my close friend took her own life a few months ago, and she did it by hanging. I hate myself that we talked about it, but her first attempt which failed she described it positively, almost as if she was in bliss from lack of air until the rope broke. Crazy fucking bastard.

That said drowning seems harder to pull off. You would need to do a little more than inhale a full breath of water, and you would feel that shit in your lungs especially if salt water. If ur not comfortable with full suspension just experiment with a sitting or finding an alternative method.

 

[ausiegal]

I'm sorry to hear about your friend @Holu . I hope she is at peace now

I appreciate you sharing though - this is reassuring to hear. I've heard a few other people who have had similar positive experiences. That would be a perfect way to go wouldn't it?

I've been trying to get used to the feeling of the rope tightening around the top of my neck, but when I pull it tight it makes me gag. I'm not sure if I have a strong gag reflex or if it's SI kicking in, but it's annoying & uncomfortable! (I'm certain the rope is in the right spot - nice and high for full suspension hanging).
I wonder if I'll be less likely to gag when I'm full weight is hung.
I worry that the gagging is moving the rope & therefore may reduce the pressure on the carotids.

Why does this shit have to be so hard…?! Living is hard, dying is f'ing harder!

 

[Holu]

I'm sorry to hear about your friend @Holu . I hope she is at peace now

I appreciate you sharing though - this is reassuring to hear. I've heard a few other people who have had similar positive experiences. That would be a perfect way to go wouldn't it?

I've been trying to get used to the feeling of the rope tightening around the top of my neck, but when I pull it tight it makes me gag. I'm not sure if I have a strong gag reflex or if it's SI kicking in, but it's annoying & uncomfortable! (I'm certain the rope is in the right spot - nice and high for full suspension hanging).
I wonder if I'll be less likely to gag when I'm full weight is hung.
I worry that the gagging is moving the rope & therefore may reduce the pressure on the carotids.

Why does this shit have to be so hard…?! Living is hard, dying is f'ing harder!

Honestly I think dying is easy, our bodies are kinda fragile. Overcoming our survival instinct to commit suicide is hard tho, and probably the greatest feat of will that can ever exist, as it's the ultimate defiance of nature itself. It's a testament to how great the suffering they were experiencing was.

 

[ausiegal]

Honestly I think dying is easy, our bodies are kinda fragile. Overcoming our survival instinct to commit suicide is hard tho, and probably the greatest feat of will that can ever exist, as it's the ultimate defiance of nature itself. It's a testament to how great the suffering they were experiencing was.

This is so true beautifully written.

 

[Holu]

This is so true beautifully written.

Adding more, there's a reason animal suicides are rare, and often considered a trait of higher intelligence, one which many believe that animals aren't truly capable of. It takes a tremendous amount of self awareness to commit suicide, especially without immediate distress. So the argument is that while animals can exhibit behaviors that might seem like suicide, these actions are often attributed to immediate distress from environmental factors rather than deliberate, thought out intent. It just goes to show how strong one's will to commit suicide is, and also why I will always scoff whenever someone calls suicide the "easy way or cowards way out". When in reality it's possibly the most difficult and courageous actions a person can make.

 

[oz.ls.23]

Am I silly to think that drowning is easier than hanging (full suspension)?

I'm nervous that I'll stuff up hanging, despite having read so many of the threads on SaSu multiple times.
And I feel like I'll struggle to find the courage to kick the chair/stool.

So I'm thinking about rowing out into the middle of a large lake nearby. I will drink some alcohol before getting into the water. Then I'll use a knife to pop the inflatable boat. It will be the middle of the night & quite cold, so I'll either die by drowning/hypothermia/exhaustion.

I'll probably need to attach some weights to myself won't I?

I am in Australia, so I don't have access to SN etc, or any other form of drugs. These are really my only two options, unless I want to look at trains which isn't fair on the driver.

I'm also in Australia and it seems to be very hard to get access to lethal drugs. I'm thinking of jumping off a pier into the ocean wearing heavy clothing. I can't swim so hoping this will overcome any survival instinct. I'm not 100% sure if this will work..

 

[NegevChina]

I've considered drowning and i'm lucky to live close to the beach where the water is 30 Celsius. But it seems to be a very painful method. I want to do it at night so not to be found until at least the day after. any way to knock my self unconscious other then shallow water blackout? Cause i think it wont work for me.