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nolifer
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- Dec 25, 2020
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I've been redoubling on my research about long drop hanging recently.
For those that don't know why I prefer long drop hanging, it's because when it doesn't fail, it's instant unconsciousness. All in all, in total, from the moment the drop begins until moment of losing consciousness takes less than half a second, no physical or menbtal pain or suffering. Suspension hanging otoh is very slow and extremely painful.
One thing which I'm uncertain about after my research is done, is that they explain that the executioner has to jerk the rope, timed so that the jerk happens just before the prisoner reaches the end of the drop. This creates a lot more force than if there was only a drop without any jerk from the executioner.
It's not explicitly written in any of the papers/articles I've read if the long drop calculation only works when the executioner jerks the rope.
I've also seen a text saying that long drop hanging should not be used for suicide because it will be extremely painful. It's only meant for executions.
But that doesn't make much sense, why would it be painful for suicides but not for executions?
That leads me back to thinking that maybe the jerk on the rope by the executioner is necessary to make it painless.
I then researched why they say using a drop longer than the calculated long drop distance would only increase suffering. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_hanging
Then I found this:
"why ask the executioners to perform mathematical problems when they could simply make the rope long enough to achieve sufficiently high drop energy for every condemned person?
[...] With and excessively long-drop, Haughton was concerned that "the mental sufferings of the criminal during the second occupied by his fall may be very considerable"" - https://science.thewire.in/the-scie...ihar-jail-cervical-fracture-long-drop-method/
So the only downside to having an extra long drop, much longer than the calculated long drop, is the mental suffering the prisoner has while falling during the drop, that's all! The long drop only takes about 1/3 of a second, so double the distance of the drop isn't really a big deal I think if it can guarantee a successful hanging. Because it seems like the measured long drop only works with an executioner to jerk the rope?
Interested to hear your thoughts. On so important topics it's important to get the research done right. There shouldn't be any doubt or uncertainty with the research. Please share sources because we're doing science here.
For those that don't know why I prefer long drop hanging, it's because when it doesn't fail, it's instant unconsciousness. All in all, in total, from the moment the drop begins until moment of losing consciousness takes less than half a second, no physical or menbtal pain or suffering. Suspension hanging otoh is very slow and extremely painful.
One thing which I'm uncertain about after my research is done, is that they explain that the executioner has to jerk the rope, timed so that the jerk happens just before the prisoner reaches the end of the drop. This creates a lot more force than if there was only a drop without any jerk from the executioner.
It's not explicitly written in any of the papers/articles I've read if the long drop calculation only works when the executioner jerks the rope.
I've also seen a text saying that long drop hanging should not be used for suicide because it will be extremely painful. It's only meant for executions.
But that doesn't make much sense, why would it be painful for suicides but not for executions?
That leads me back to thinking that maybe the jerk on the rope by the executioner is necessary to make it painless.
I then researched why they say using a drop longer than the calculated long drop distance would only increase suffering. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_hanging
Then I found this:
"why ask the executioners to perform mathematical problems when they could simply make the rope long enough to achieve sufficiently high drop energy for every condemned person?
[...] With and excessively long-drop, Haughton was concerned that "the mental sufferings of the criminal during the second occupied by his fall may be very considerable"" - https://science.thewire.in/the-scie...ihar-jail-cervical-fracture-long-drop-method/
So the only downside to having an extra long drop, much longer than the calculated long drop, is the mental suffering the prisoner has while falling during the drop, that's all! The long drop only takes about 1/3 of a second, so double the distance of the drop isn't really a big deal I think if it can guarantee a successful hanging. Because it seems like the measured long drop only works with an executioner to jerk the rope?
Interested to hear your thoughts. On so important topics it's important to get the research done right. There shouldn't be any doubt or uncertainty with the research. Please share sources because we're doing science here.