Going back and forth in my decision to use SN

[Meditation guide]

I had decided not to use SN after reading of a scary sounding attempt by someone here who tried using it. Now after reading about someone who had a very peaceful transition using SN once again I want to use it and feel sure it's ok and going to be a peaceful ending.

I've done this several times. Back and forth. I wonder why this varies so much from person to person. And I can't tell what they take, other meds with it, has any bearing on how peaceful it is. Some don't take anything with it and have peaceful endings and some take the full regimen and have a rough time.

 

[sadworld]

I don't think the purity affects it that much as most of us use around 99% purity anyway. I feel like it depends on the health and age of a person. It's really hard to predict it tho.

 

[AutoTap]

Same here, it seems SN is the easiest option but I'm scared that'll be painful it really unpleasant

 

[CoalmineCanary]

The fucken fear...

 

[Weary Soul]

Yes, there is a bit of information missing from what I have observed - demographics (age, ethnicity, BMI), medical history, other medications taken within the past 30 days or 5 half-lives of the medication prior to ingestion of SN, timing of ingestion of each part of the regimen, the use of SN from different manufacturers, and actual dose used (ie, not measured by tbs), etc.

In getting any new drug approved, these are standard questions (demographics, medical history, other concomitant medications) and the medication under study is the same formulation - batch numbers are traced and reported, etc. (Not to suggest that this will get approved for the purposes I intend to use it, but nontheless, this information would help IMO).

Also they have found that ADME can vary from person to person with specific medications (take slow and rapid metabolizers of opioids for example).

ADME = absorption, distribution, metabolism, and excretion.

 

[Studio84]

My honest opinion is it seems like a total crap shoot regarding peacefulness and pain... I've done the same as most and read every goodbye thread, every failed thread, the pph, listened to the lethal salts podcasts, pretty much everything I could find on the subject and I've come to the conclusion your never going to truly know how it's going to be or how it's going to feel or affect you till your in the driving seat.I also think it's not going to be anywhere as pleasant as Phillip Nitchke claims it is.
He describes it as "happy hypoxia".even if you strike lucky and its mildy discomforting I very much doubt you'll be feeling happy.I have some ready for if the time comes but im not going to kid myself into thinking it'l be pleasant in any way.
Just my personal opinion.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

The fact of the matter is, even with all the information in the world you can't predict how your body will react to it. This can be said with nearly everything. All we can do is make an educated guess based on the information at hand.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I had decided not to use SN after reading of a scary sounding attempt by someone here who tried using it. Now after reading about someone who had a very peaceful transition using SN once again I want to use it and feel sure it's ok and going to be a peaceful ending.

I've done this several times. Back and forth. I wonder why this varies so much from person to person. And I can't tell what they take, other meds with it, has any bearing on how peaceful it is. Some don't take anything with it and have peaceful endings and some take the full regimen and have a rough time.

Do you have money for N?

 

[Meditation guide]

Do you have money for N?

I'm in the USA and we have a drug department which would lock me up if I tried to get it.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I'm in the USA and we have a drug department which would lock me up if I tried to get it.

I'm so sorry hun...

 

[Weary Soul]

Do you have money for N?

Is N even a viable option anymore given the number of scams and unreliability of sellers? It would be my first choice.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Is N even a viable option anymore given the number of scams and unreliability of sellers? It would be my first choice.

I just asked. I don't have access either...

 

[sarahR]

Me too. I read some stories that some people go peacefully others that don't. So like you I'm confused and scared about using it.

 

[Studio84]

Most of the direct reports on this site I've read are peaceful. A lot involve some vomiting but people do get dizzy and lose consciousness in a short time, ten minutes or less usually.

But here and there they do not lose consciousness quickly and vomit uncontrollable or have pain in the stomach or headache. The headache can come from sudden drop in blood pressure, the stomach pain might be from undiagnosed ulcers. It is suggested to take several ibuprofen.

Eventually they do finally lose consciousness however and I assume pass away. Only if they go to a hospital do they not die. I agree there is so much information that is missing and it's a crap shoot.

Then for a few of us there is the business of our own panic leading us to call out to someone or some neighbor or scream or call frantically for help after drinking it and feeling an effect and I am one of these who would do that.

I agree with brick in the wall I honestly believe its a subject you could have every ounce of knowledge and information on and your still not going to truly 100% know or predict how it will feel or effect you until the time comes.From all the research I've done all I can confidently say about it is its definitely lethal, it's definitely effective and it sounds a lot less gruesome than some other methods and I'm hoping it's fairly peaceful for me if I decided to take that route.
I've searched for all the same answers you are looking for and I've come to the conclusion im not going to find them unfortunately.

 

[yive]

in principle, if you have the opportunity to use any of the available methods, you can resort to inert gas, for example...
i cannot use gas, because i don't live alone and everyone will immediately notice it.

of course, i would like a painless ending, as if i just fell asleep and that's it. but even if this doesn't work out, it's okay.

in any case, this pain is less than the pain that my future life will bring me if i stay in this world. this realization calms me down

 

[Meditation guide]

it sounds a lot less gruesome than some other methods

That counts for a lot. I noticed that the most calm ones who use this have the best luck.

this pain is less than the pain that my future life will bring me if i stay in this world.

Exactly right. I need to have a big sign on my wall to remind me of that constantly.

 

[Jambi]

From the little I have read, there's no error if you follow the 48-hour regimen, take antiemetics beforehand, take the correct SN measure (usually 25 grams is enough for anyone) and wait.

As a guarantee, leave a second dose ready in case you vomit, and have a tic tac in your mouth to remove the bitter taste and deceive the urge to vomit.

I think the ease of this method is worth any risk. If for some misfortune you still survive, just try again in another way.

 

[job1315]

N is out for anyone in the USA.

Why is N out for the USA, does the dark market work worse here?

 

[Weary Soul]

Not that I have time to get it, but I question this also??

N is out for anyone in the USA.

 

[Meditation guide]

Not that I have time to get it, but I question this also??

I don't know if you guys are in the USA who are questioning this and I really don't want to get into another argument over this or discuss it but the laws are very strict on importing illegal drugs. It would be foolish to try it.
I hope to keep the discussion to SN.

If for some misfortune you still survive, just try again in another way.

It would have to wait until I get out of the mandatory imprisonment in a psych ward that the law here requires of anyone that tries to commit suicide.

When they say the U.S. is a nation of laws that's an understatement.

 

[cherry7]

From the little I have read, there's no error if you follow the 48-hour regimen, take antiemetics beforehand, take the correct SN measure (usually 25 grams is enough for anyone) and wait.

As a guarantee, leave a second dose ready in case you vomit, and have a tic tac in your mouth to remove the bitter taste and deceive the urge to vomit.

I think the ease of this method is worth any risk. If for some misfortune you still survive, just try again in another way.

What's the 48 hour regimen?

 

[AnonymousL]

What's the 48 hour regimen?

Day 1	Medication and Dose
08:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
16:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
24:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
Day 2	Medication and Dose
08:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
16:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
23:00hrs	600mg of Ibuprofen or 1000mg of paracetamol. You can use any painkiller as long as you stay within the recommended dose
23:15hrs	3 X 10mg Metoclopramide (30mg in total)
23:30hrs	Double dose of what is recommended on the label of the antacid.
24:00hrs	SN drink

Day 1	Medication and Dose
08:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
16:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
24:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
Day 2	Medication and Dose
08:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
16:00hrs	1 X 10mg Metoclopramide
23:00hrs	600mg of Ibuprofen or 1000mg of paracetamol. You can use any painkiller as long as you stay within the recommended dose
23:15hrs	3 X 10mg Metoclopramide (30mg in total)
23:30hrs	Double dose of what is recommended on the label of the antacid.
24:00hrs	SN drink

I assume that's what the 48 hours regimen is

 

[IWishToDie]

I had decided not to use SN after reading of a scary sounding attempt by someone here who tried using it. Now after reading about someone who had a very peaceful transition using SN once again I want to use it and feel sure it's ok and going to be a peaceful ending.

I've done this several times. Back and forth. I wonder why this varies so much from person to person. And I can't tell what they take, other meds with it, has any bearing on how peaceful it is. Some don't take anything with it and have peaceful endings and some take the full regimen and have a rough time.

From what I understand so far, it's usually people who don't test the product or who mix it with soda or don't take enough that have the biggest problem. SN seems to be mostly peaceful and successful. There's a thread of a failed attempt where he talks about struggling to breathe and having seizures but I'm not sure if that happens when still awake or if that was reported symptoms by his spouse (he took the chemical in bed next to his wife or girlfriend I think) seizures woke her up and she called ambulance.