Venting Goddammit life is a joke for men

[BluesRunTheGame]

And no one gives a shit. No wonder the suicide rates are what they are (it doesn't take a genius to analyse them)...

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

Yeah, it doesn't help with the toxic masculinity. Expecting them not to show emotion, not to be girly and all that stuff. It's okay for men to show emotion and like more feminine things but it's this social thing where society expects them to be manly

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

Yeah, it doesn't help with the toxic masculinity. Expecting them not to show emotion, not to be girly and all that stuff. It's okay for men to show emotion and like more feminine things but it's this social thing where society expects them to be manly

Fuck all that. The point is women are owning the narrative on social media and if you're a man who falls for it - well then - that's on you.

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

Fuck all that. The point is women are owning the narrative on social media and if you're a man who falls for it - well then - that's on you.

I don't even know what you're talking about. What narrative?

 

[Littlewittlelight]

It is a joke for everyone but it's becoming a problem for men now. I don't even hope to be a man. I just have a body of a male that's it. Ion believe in glorifying or the knights or chivalry my dude. I am out and want to be so above but my chemicals haven't been working lately even my dopamine isn't which is good I think. Let's see and some things are really threat to existence of males man I would agree but life treats women like shit too look. Saw the news what happens in some countries? Man I know because I talked to a girl from such a country you wouldn't believe it's a hell for women so those females have to pay twice or thrice ah it's immeasurable but believe me man. Feels world is gonna continue some people are enjoying some are being killed in corner of world while we are planning out ctb but this life can be even worse and those had it worse. Not dissuading what you said I am done with life too it feels so rn and it's been kinda long but some had it way worse. I just feel bad for those females when I see news how human trafficking can happen while some of us,males are cursing our fate. It doesn't mean we should feel better because they had it worse pain is subjective but I just am not okay with how this world works. I saw documentaries and we don't even know what happens in world and we will never because we were always too busy. It's not a beautiful place. Must be for some but not for all and it's for very few like really so so few people. It's not as beautiful as it is said. I feel for you too I have just words can't even move what a shame but I am close to that girl and when I hear from her it feels ahh man if I were you I would still feel this much pain and you really had to deal with shit and it's not as easy women get cheated on I don't want talk anymore sorry if I hurt someone but the whole world is not so beautiful and so many suffer.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

I don't even know what you're talking about. What narrative?

The saddest thing of all is when people don't even realise they're being manipulated. Just switch on the TV. Men are scum, women 'are faultless'. This is the sorry state of affairs. Any news channel. Just switch it on.

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

The saddest thing of all is when people don't even realise they're being manipulated. Just switch on the TV. Men are scum, women 'are faultless'. This is the sorry state of affairs. Any news channel. Just switch it on.

I don't really watch TV or the news, so I don't get that stuff but there are cases of toxic feminists saying stuff like that, yeah.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

I don't really watch TV or the news, so I don't get that stuff but there are cases of toxic feminists saying stuff like that, yeah.

It's not about toxic feminists; it's about the newsreader at 6 'o clock dismissing men's issues.

 

[Lynx.]

The saddest thing of all is when people don't even realise they're being manipulated. Just switch on the TV. Men are scum, women 'are faultless'. This is the sorry state of affairs. Any news channel. Just switch it on.

I have heard people saying such things, of course. But I also heard people saying the opposite, "woman are scum, men are faultless"

I don't think most people operate under such notions, to be honest. Placing people under a category based on their gender does not help anyone at all, on any sides.

It always boil down to the individuals, regardless of their gender. Also, not to be disrespectful or rude, but I read a lot of bitterness and anger in your statement. I understand and I respect it, but being angry about what people say on TV or media is counterproductive, after all, social media is full of dipshits seeking attention; they may use false statements in order to gain that attention.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

I have heard people saying such things, of course. But I also heard people saying the opposite, "woman are scum, men are faultless"

I don't think most people operate under such notions, to be honest. Placing people under a category based on their gender does not help anyone at all, on any sides.

It always boil down to the individuals, regardless of their gender. Also, not to be disrespectful or rude, but I read a lot of bitterness and anger in your statement. I understand and I respect it, but being angry about what people say on TV or media is counterproductive, after all, social media is full of dipshits seeking attention; they may use false statements in order to gain that attention.

But then from my point of view they've got you bad. Ultimately, just look at any country's suicide rate chart. And come to your own conclusions.

 

[Littlewittlelight]

But then from my point of view they've got you bad. Ultimately, just look at any country's suicide rate chart. And come to your own conclusions.

Men attempt more and there methods are more fatal they even survive less but I wouldn't try to find a relation between these two things and man please think about it. Did you also see the news of that girl who was beaten to death? Feminism is there to just say where is it? Where is UN? What happened? Wasn't that country a part of UN? Where are rights. The world is a mess and it won't be completely fair to everyone. Just female celebrities getting sympathy doesn't mean feminism. It's more like an ig campaign but it hasn't done much and now men would need a campaign too all I wanted to say is there are women and men who don't have right to their lives and basic things.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

Men attempt more and there methods are more fatal they even survive less but I wouldn't try to find a relation between these two things and man please think about it. Did you also see the news of that girl who was beaten to death? Feminism is there to just say where is it? Where is UN? What happened? Wasn't that country a part of UN? Where are rights. The world is a mess and it won't be completely fair to everyone. Just female celebrities getting sympathy doesn't mean feminism. It's more like an ig campaign but it hasn't done much and now men would need a campaign too all I wanted to say is there are women and men who don't have right to their lives and basic things.

I'm sorry but I'm not gonna argue with male/female suicide rates across the globe that never change. These are facts.

 

[Chinaski]

Oh for fucks sake.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

Oh for fucks sake.

Okay come on. I've reignited something here I feel...

 

[Lynx.]

But then from my point of view they've got you bad. Ultimately, just look at any country's suicide rate chart. And come to your own conclusions.

Uh...

Before taking data from a chart, a comprehensive reading of the data and the situations might be useful. Mere numbers cannot be used to reach a conclusion about a serious subject.

Your initial claim about men suffering more in society overall is correct, just by analizing the data alone. But when another person exposed the main reason the studies reveal (such as financial burdens, denial of their emotions, less communication offered about mental health towards men, etc...) you said, and I quote:

"Fuck all that. The point is women are owning the narrative on social media and if you're a man who falls for it - well then - that's on you."

I wonder how are women responsible for men committing most of the suicides? Sure, ocassionally it can be the case, but I don't think this blame can be put on any gender, but rather on society.

We agree on the problem, but I think we disagree on where we point the finger to the cause of the problem.

A look at chart reveals men committing more suicides, and gives an insight into the problem. But I don't see any study reveal how women are the cause, which was your claim a few comments above. I cannot take this post seriously if you make such a big claim and back it up with biases you've gathered from reading and watching people on social media.

Social media cannot be used as a tool for analyzing the real world. It's flawed in its nature.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I'm sorry but I'm not gonna argue with male/female suicide rates across the globe that never change. These are facts.

just because people commit suicide doesnt show the whole numbers. not every one that has a shitty life attempts

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

75% of suicides are statistically men in every country over all of the time. I can't see any reasonable opposition to say women are anywhere near this stat?

 

[Life_and_Death]

75% of suicides are statistically men in every country over all of the time. I can't see any reasonable opposition to say women are anywhere near this stat?

how do you show what isnt there?? if its not being reported then how can people know?

 

[Chinaski]

98. 96% of men who use a suicide statistic to justify their own misplaced sense of global persecution which they project in the form of misogynistic rhetoric on the Internet are fucking assholes, I'm just quoting facts here, I'm not here to debate you, I'm just presenting the science

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

how do you show what isnt there?? if its not being reported then how can people know?

Every single country in the world has the same statistics. Go figure.

98. 96% of men who use a suicide statistic to justify their own misplaced sense of global persecution which they project in the form of misogynistic rhetoric on the Internet are fucking assholes, I'm just quoting facts here, I'm not here to debate you, I'm just presenting the science

Yeah good luck getting laid off the back of that.

 

[Life_and_Death]

Every single country in the world has the same statistics. Go figure.

i had a feeling you were going to be the kind to deny anything. my point was your stats prove nothing

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Women get trafficked. Women get raped. Women get shit on by people all the time.

100% it sucks for some men, I'd say for most of the men on this forum, but the whole world sucks for women everywhere. It sucks for trans people everywhere too.

I always come into these threads with an open mind but damn it always bites me in the ass. I'm all down for more sympathy for men but not at the cost of bringing women down. The world needs more kindness, in general.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

I always come into these threads with an open mind

No you don't because you are a woman who cannot or will not empathise with men.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

If you're not a woman you're a simp and I think you're a woman. Either way you're a fucking moron.

That's rude.

 

[Littlewittlelight]

how do you show what isnt there?? if its not being reported then how can people know?

They were venting I am sorry op all I wanted to say was I myself am a male and single and feel there has been much happening to me lately but women's lives in some places are really hell. This isn't hell what I am going through tbh. Making mistakes and killing yourself is different to being smothered by someone else. If males are victim to Suicide then women are to homicide. I really feel for you and I have had this feeling I will once again at night that it's unfair with men and I don't want to support anything but just know that the whole world is a mess and it's unfair to so many people except for a bunch of males and a bunch of females who are getting the benefits of the campaigns. I don't want to argue either you seem hurt I am too and we can't do anything. I felt the worst when I read about the violence against females who don't even know their rights and are sometimes brainwashed in the name of other things then females who are restrained by force then males who are belittled I see different kinds of stats all the time and especially those women who suffer who don't even know they could be heard, can't even leave home won't be there to tell us if they were extreminated. Here I would agree men die more from suicide and something should be done about it. No matter who it is dying actually something should be done about both males and females even one male's life or a female's life is as important there shouldn't even be need to see this happening. I don't know how that will happen but it would hurt as much if two man died or on the other hand one female died or two female died and one man died.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

No you don't because you are a woman who cannot or will not empathise with men.

Of course, it's completely impossible for me to empathise with men, I can only empathise with women. /s

 

[Life_and_Death]

If you're not a woman you're a simp and I think you're a woman. Either way you're a fucking moron.

lmfao, youre just proving my point. youre just a denier that hates anyone that doesnt agree with them. you didnt have anything actually worth debate so you start throwing names, youre so typical

 

[Lynx.]

No you don't because you are a woman who cannot or will not empathise with men.

See. There's the anger and bitterness.

You are not asking for empathy. You seem to be asking for people to agree with statistics in order to prove a point which has nothing to do with the original claim of these statistics.

How are woman responsible for men having the highest suicide rates?

And why you are fast to label people who disagree with you a "simp" or as if they only disagree with your points in order to get laid?

It's a rabbit hole.

 

[Littlewittlelight]

Hey we shouldn't be saying those things. Op I am sorry I know it's unfair if you ask a man he says it's unfair to him and if you ask a woman she says the same. Op I really feel for you and maybe you had to deal with something like that again but women on here haven't done something like that to you, have they? Op I have seen just what you said happen but it didn't happen here. I know it happens and some people even say that for fun like they don't care saying things like males are simp but man I need to say again this world is a mess but not everyone is like that. If you see more of those things you hurt yourself more.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

lmfao, youre just proving my point. youre just a denier that hates anyone that doesnt agree with them. you didnt have anything actually worth debate so you start throwing names, youre so typical

Definitely a woman then. 100%.