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Phosphorous 4

Phosphorous 4

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I've posted on SaSu before about my issues with Emesis (uncontrollable vomiting), how I've been hospitalized repeatedly because of it. I went to the dentist two days ago and I was told and shown the extent of the damage the vomiting has done to my teeth. I really don't know how long I can continue to get hit with negative situation after negative situation. It sounds vain, but I've never been rich or successful, my looks and intelligence are all I've ever had. I don't even have much of a personality anymore, I'm just a depressed, blank person. I've already had the feeling for a long time that I'm slowly losing my cognitive functions, I've begun speaking to myself without consciously wanting to. But to lose my teeth in my thirties... I can't afford to replace or fix them. Government insurance will only cover the bill for having your teeth ripped out of your mouth. I try so hard to see the point in continuing, but for the life of me, I do not see it.
 
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That sucks, I am sorry to hear you are suffering so much. It is hell. I have been doing comfort eating for last 5 years, I thought I fucked up my teeth as well. But last time I went to dentist (few weeks ago) my teeth are fine and no cavities. I am surprised, but I dont want to brag to you about it. Suffering sucks no matter what.
 
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i don't believe in god just this environment we are alive in that's the root cause of our suffering
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

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It's just so cruel to me how there's all this suffering in existing, I find it so dreadful how existing can easily get much more unbearable. But anyway I wish you the best.
 
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slinkey10

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I've posted on SaSu before about my issues with Emesis (uncontrollable vomiting), how I've been hospitalized repeatedly because of it. I went to the dentist two days ago and I was told and shown the extent of the damage the vomiting has done to my teeth. I really don't know how long I can continue to get hit with negative situation after negative situation. It sounds vain, but I've never been rich or successful, my looks and intelligence are all I've ever had. I don't even have much of a personality anymore, I'm just a depressed, blank person. I've already had the feeling for a long time that I'm slowly losing my cognitive functions, I've begun speaking to myself without consciously wanting to. But to lose my teeth in my thirties... I can't afford to replace or fix them. Government insurance will only cover the bill for having your teeth ripped out of your mouth. I try so hard to see the point in continuing, but for the life of me, I do not see it.
"God Always Provides Us A New Stress" - totally agree

Equally, I have been through many sufferings myself , im not talking shit.. from the moment I was born & straight into ICU(for the americans here) then adopted into abuse etc etc....

Anyway, my point as You mentioned God - try reaching out?

Lastly & this is sociological & meant in an empathatic way - society has become obsessed with ice white teeth; all those smiling fuks on 'all' social media who now have to bare their teeth constantly , even children - the sociological bit is (in teh UK) its is a sign of class & status (if you have money u can get best dentistry & a perfect smile with ice white teeth like the dumb sheep celebs) if not, & u dont have money ur are doomed to NHS dentists - if u can find one.

I understand your humility - dont give up yet! Is there student type dentistry where ur? i.e. where students practice on you but you get it free or heavily discounted? are there no charities or Grants u can apply for?

However, u mention 'Emesis' - You need to firstly address this!

& ask God to 'make a way' if you cant think of anything deeper to say !
 
enduringwinter

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I'm sorry I hate nausea so much. And having to go through any dental procedure. Recently I noticed my cognitive functions decline too, spelling/grammar mistakes I don't notice, having no memories of something I apparently spent months doing.
 
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Phosphorous 4

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That sucks, I am sorry to hear you are suffering so much. It is hell. I have been doing comfort eating for last 5 years, I thought I fucked up my teeth as well. But last time I went to dentist (few weeks ago) my teeth are fine and no cavities. I am surprised, but I dont want to brag to you about it. Suffering sucks no matter what.
I don't think you're bragging, I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy and I'm happy to hear your teeth made it out ok. Because it does suck unfortunately lol :/
i don't believe in god just this environment we are alive in that's the root cause of our suffering
I fully believe in God, I just don't think it spends its time worrying about what happens to tiny insignificant speck number 7,933,320,293 (me) on space rock number 293,026,283,384,382,238 (Earth) when it has the entirety of existence in its purview. I think it created everything, pressed play, and everything happened as it was always supposed to happen. Suffering be damned. I think suffering is part of the point to existence, one of many points. An infinite amount of points. A significant point though, still. If God didn't want suffering to exist, if God didn't want people and animals and all other living things to experience suffering, God wouldn't have created it as a possibility, and an extremely common one at that. Just my opinion though, thank you for sharing yours :)
It's just so cruel to me how there's all this suffering in existing, I find it so dreadful how existing can easily get much more unbearable. But anyway I wish you the best.
I wish you the same, thank you so much. A few years ago I was reading about this method of torture that was used somewhere in Asia a few hundred years ago. They would lock criminals up in a box that wasn't big enough to lay down or get comfortable in. Kind of like being stuffed in a suit case. The boxes had one hole for the face to stick out of. They wouldn't feel these prisoners or release them until they died inside of the boxes. They were left outside in the elements, if it rained or reached a hundred degrees outside, they were in the box just the same. I have always been really empathetic, I can absolutely put myself in another persons shoes mentally. I made the mistake of being empathetic at that moment. I have never lost that fear of being locked in a box as a form of execution. I could mentally place myself in the box. I hope that doesn't sound crazy. I don't mean in any magical way, just the standard way we are taught as a kid to place ourselves in another persons position. My point is that, I felt such anguish, so miserable just imagining it, it makes me not want to live when I think about the fact that there are billions of people who have lived and suffered and died in similar or worse ways. It is just so common to suffer. It is so common for one man to hurt the man next to him for things that are almost never worth the suffering he instills in the other man. It makes it so difficult to see the beauty in life.

I wrote about God and my thoughts on suffering in my response above this one, I think you'd find it interesting, in a "not funny at all" kind of way.
"God Always Provides Us A New Stress" - totally agree

Equally, I have been through many sufferings myself , im not talking shit.. from the moment I was born & straight into ICU(for the americans here) then adopted into abuse etc etc....

Anyway, my point as You mentioned God - try reaching out?

Lastly & this is sociological & meant in an empathatic way - society has become obsessed with ice white teeth; all those smiling fuks on 'all' social media who now have to bare their teeth constantly , even children - the sociological bit is (in teh UK) its is a sign of class & status (if you have money u can get best dentistry & a perfect smile with ice white teeth like the dumb sheep celebs) if not, & u dont have money ur are doomed to NHS dentists - if u can find one.

I understand your humility - dont give up yet! Is there student type dentistry where ur? i.e. where students practice on you but you get it free or heavily discounted? are there no charities or Grants u can apply for?

However, u mention 'Emesis' - You need to firstly address this!

& ask God to 'make a way' if you cant think of anything deeper to say !
I'm not worried about discolored teeth, I'm looking at a near future where I'll have zero teeth in my mouth at all. The Emesis is a cycle of going to the hospital to be stabilized, to have a doctor tell me they have no clue whats going on and to discharge me. I've been dealing with it for ten years. If I push the subject, the doctors act like I'm questioning their ability. Doctors are damn near useless in my opinion. They're in the same boat as mechanics, lawyers and used car salesmen to me.

I responded a little further up to darkover about my view on God. I don't think God thinks about you or me at all. I've never once had a situation change through prayer. I pray, as I consider it the Christian version of meditation. We call it contemplation but it is the same thing. But these are behaviors I took with me from the church of a religion I don't even believe in anymore. I am looking into the student dentistry. I am a New Yorker who moved to Connecticut and now live in an area where you have to wait six months for a cleaning. Not dental work mind you, a cleaning. We have one doctors office that handles anything and everything for an enormous area. It's just looking to me like I need to get a CTB situation set up, because I refuse to be 35 without any teeth. I've dealt with enough shit, this is my line in the sand.
I'm sorry I hate nausea so much. And having to go through any dental procedure. Recently I noticed my cognitive functions decline too, spelling/grammar mistakes I don't notice, having no memories of something I apparently spent months doing.
Nausea is the second worst behind extreme cold for me, and with Emesis I am lucky enough to experience both hahah I've been trying to reverse my cognitive issues, the brain is a muscle, you can lose muscle on your arms and gain it back, I'm praying the human brain works similarly. Thank you for your response and your time.

Thank you all for your responses and your time! And I apologize for the delay in my responses, I've just been obviously stressed and stress sleeping because of it.
 
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I fully believe in God, I just don't think it spends its time worrying about what happens to tiny insignificant speck number 7,933,320,293 (me) on space rock number 293,026,283,384,382,238 (Earth) when it has the entirety of existence in its purview. I think it created everything, pressed play, and everything happened as it was always supposed to happen. Suffering be damned. I think suffering is part of the point to existence, one of many points. An infinite amount of points. A significant point though, still. If God didn't want suffering to exist, if God didn't want people and animals and all other living things to experience suffering, God wouldn't have created it as a possibility, and an extremely common one at that. Just my opinion though, thank you for sharing yours :)
If people believe in an impersonal God who doesn't care about suffering, what practical difference does that make from atheism
 
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Forever Sleep

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If people believe in an impersonal God who doesn't care about suffering, what practical difference does that make from atheism

Sorry- not the original person you replied to but... My feeling is that it's so much worse! I actually wish I was an atheist fully. I lean that way now but that's made up with 50% reasoning and 50% hope. There's still a part of me that isn't convinced there isn't a God. I'm simply not fully sure either way.

However, if there is one, my reasoning leads to them wanting there to be suffering here too- which is horrific. Imagining we have a sadist at the helm is so much worse to my thinking than it all just being chance. We're at the mercy of both still but, maybe there's more chance of the suffering continuing if an afterlife exists. Afterlives are often paired with religions and Gods.

Plus, there's a big difference to devout people. They may well believe that keeping on God's good side means they get rewarded in an afterlife. Wasn't it Pascal that reasoned that the safer wager was to worship a God? If they don't exist and you've paid tribute in life, you lose very little. Maybe a bit of immoral fun. However, if they do exist and you didn't worship them- you've likely angered them- and, we already know what they're capable of inflicting here.

That all said, I think God's smart enough to know who's faking devotion so, I don't plan to change my beliefs. I'll simply have to accept whatever punishment there is (if they do exist.)
 
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However, if there is one, my reasoning leads to them wanting there to be suffering here too- which is horrific. Imagining we have a sadist at the helm is so much worse to my thinking than it all just being chance. We're at the mercy of both still but, maybe there's more chance of the suffering continuing if an afterlife exists. Afterlives are often paired with religions and Gods.
I so used to think the same way, that God is a sadist but... yes, bad things happen to good people. Good things happen to bad people.
I cant explain people being born with horrific disabilities etc or children dying. Its what seperates us from the Saints - no they didnt live happy pain free lives , they went through imense suffering and still believed...

my favourates - st teresa of avila, perpetua, Eustochium (who blatantly had bipolar / schizophrenia & was locked up, hand tied in a dungeon & starved for months) and St Bernadette who founded lourdes that healing place in france... all went through imense / degrading suffering.

Maybe its a test but to use that age old arguement ..."if God existed there wouldnt be suffering" doesnt stand up when u look at it.
& no I cant explain it any better - no offence meant.
I'm not worried about discolored teeth, I'm looking at a near future where I'll have zero teeth in my mouth at all. The Emesis is a cycle of going to the hospital to be stabilized, to have a doctor tell me they have no clue whats going on and to discharge me. I've been dealing with it for ten years. If I push the subject, the doctors act like I'm questioning their ability. Doctors are damn near useless in my opinion. They're in the same boat as mechanics, lawyers and used car salesmen to me.
Sorry I didnt mean to infer ur some white teeth obsessed celeb wanabe.

Your suffering is real, I pray the student dentistry route works out.

The UK is f'd as well with dentists & Doctors. Can you get an advocate? Im thinking of doing the same with my GP appointments as they (like u say) are useless... medical model only. Talk over me, refuse any evidence that I have researched etc etc...
& then they just google your symptoms in front of you.
 
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