I just had an idea, could you possibly get access to N by volunteering at an animal shelter? Don't they euthanize the animals with N? Has this ever been discussed?
CyanideSoup
Memento mori
- Oct 1, 2019
- 463
I'm not sure, but if it's anything like any form of human care only qualified nurses (or vets in this case) would have access to the medication. If I'm wrong though somebody please let me know so I can go and do some volunteering.
Animal shelters are NOT a place anyone should steal from. They help animals in need and need every supplies they can get, they aren't well funded. But obviously people with bad morals will do whatever so yeah.
Qbert
Arcanist
- Jan 6, 2019
- 456
Vets keep nembutal under lock and key, would be difficult to get to.
no, not at all, you could steal it and leave them like $500 dollars somewhere and also keep volunteering until you're ready
hmm but i wonder how many even know that people are looking for it. What I mean is, I bet the key is just lying around somewhere
Well in that case of course it would be OK. If a person is very desperate I'd understand if they did it. SN is so easily acquired though .
Meant2Die
Specialist
- Nov 8, 2019
- 307
In my wild imagination I've thought of this, although I was thinking more of robbing it at night at gunpoint (I always think of things the hard way...lol.. ) I laugh b/c I would never do that, but technically it's a good place to look for it.
I doubt you could get near it. It's probably under lock and key only accessible by the vet otherwise imagine if someone accidentally used it thinking it was something else and killed someone's pet. Yeaa.. NO, people won't take chances with deadly medicines like that and leave them easily accessible. Although if you got lucky maybe the vet is a depressed alcoholic who hates his life and job, is using drugs to numb the pain and doesn't pay attention to where the key it....
I mean you could always try to find a single Vet to date and convince them to steal you some.. but yikes, so many steps... Lies, deceit, preconceived actions with the intention of suicide .. perfect for starting a relationship. hehe. yup, there goes my convoluted mind again.. ;P
I doubt you could get near it. It's probably under lock and key only accessible by the vet otherwise imagine if someone accidentally used it thinking it was something else and killed someone's pet. Yeaa.. NO, people won't take chances with deadly medicines like that and leave them easily accessible. Although if you got lucky maybe the vet is a depressed alcoholic who hates his life and job, is using drugs to numb the pain and doesn't pay attention to where the key it....
I mean you could always try to find a single Vet to date and convince them to steal you some.. but yikes, so many steps... Lies, deceit, preconceived actions with the intention of suicide .. perfect for starting a relationship. hehe. yup, there goes my convoluted mind again.. ;P
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id rather helium than SN, maybe i dont understand the method well enough but i don't even consider it an option
also if i fooled someone into liking me that much, i might not want to die! lol
less than
not important
- Jul 25, 2019
- 195
I don't think that N is obtainable in animal shelters. Here is it common that a veterinarian would be called if one of the pets is ill. But it could be that the handling in other locations is different.
the reason why I think its available is because I believe that after a while they euthanize the animals. There's just too many. Maybe I'm mistaken on this but I don't think they keep animals forever. If enough time passes and no one adopts the dog or cat, i think they're euthanized, sick or not
You can get a euthanasia license in my state prob by volunteering at a shelter that might accomplish your goal as it allows purchase of nembutal
crea_the_hopeless
Ugly queen
- Feb 26, 2019
- 95
I was like this until I researched it. I read the thread Stan made and I've also read through several goodbye threads of ppl using this method. It seems to really work. The different medications you need aren't too hard to get ahold of and even if you can't get to it the main thing you need is the SN, which is super easy to get. After reading the reviews and knowing that it's a successful way to CTB I definitely can't wait to try it.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
I know in the UK the RSPCA have mobile units to deal with distressed animals and carry it on their wagon. I have seen it first hand.
less than
not important
- Jul 25, 2019
- 195
noctiva
the invisible girl
- Nov 6, 2019
- 393
Okay, three main points here.
1. In the country (EU) I am in, shelters have pentobarbital, but no volunteer with administer it, ever. Most likely you will not even be nearby when it is administered. You need to have at least some animal training by a vet to be able to handle it plus show that you have the NEED to be able to do this, volunteering at a shelter is not a need. I am certified to use it (I have a full animal license) but this took me a long time to accomplish (4 years of my studies to be allowed to administer it under supervision, 8 years of studies to be allowed to administer it alone), and I truly NEED to have this qualification for my work. However, every bottle needs to be prescribed by a vet, no one else can prescribe it, no one else can pick it up after ordering it.
2. Pentobarbital will be stored safely, every amount taken needs to be signed for, even 0.25 ml for a mouse need to be documented.
3. Animal shelters are run by a mixture of donations and state funds to ensure that animals that are discarded by society will be looked after. They are vulnerable institutions and should be supported not put into an even deeper hole.
Vets carry it around when making house calls to farms or homes, but these bottles are most likely not full and I doubt they carry spares. Stealing that will be a problem for you and for the vet.
I'd suggest you take something else, SN maybe? Stealing pentobarbital will be hell to pay for the shelter, getting your license will take a long time, if you want to be able to order it, you need to become a vet, which takes even more time.
1. In the country (EU) I am in, shelters have pentobarbital, but no volunteer with administer it, ever. Most likely you will not even be nearby when it is administered. You need to have at least some animal training by a vet to be able to handle it plus show that you have the NEED to be able to do this, volunteering at a shelter is not a need. I am certified to use it (I have a full animal license) but this took me a long time to accomplish (4 years of my studies to be allowed to administer it under supervision, 8 years of studies to be allowed to administer it alone), and I truly NEED to have this qualification for my work. However, every bottle needs to be prescribed by a vet, no one else can prescribe it, no one else can pick it up after ordering it.
2. Pentobarbital will be stored safely, every amount taken needs to be signed for, even 0.25 ml for a mouse need to be documented.
3. Animal shelters are run by a mixture of donations and state funds to ensure that animals that are discarded by society will be looked after. They are vulnerable institutions and should be supported not put into an even deeper hole.
Vets carry it around when making house calls to farms or homes, but these bottles are most likely not full and I doubt they carry spares. Stealing that will be a problem for you and for the vet.
I'd suggest you take something else, SN maybe? Stealing pentobarbital will be hell to pay for the shelter, getting your license will take a long time, if you want to be able to order it, you need to become a vet, which takes even more time.
pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
- 2,649
How about making your own Nembutal? Is this book any good?
https://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Nembutal-At-Home-ebook/dp/B07DBTNVM8
Qbert
Arcanist
- Jan 6, 2019
- 456
Also if you manage to ctb using purloined N the clinic and the vet will be in for a rough time.
but thats the case for any successful suicide in theory but in practice no one cares, or they would stop selling helium balloon kits at wal-mart
no one cares if we die, so long as we shut up about it
Qbert
Arcanist
- Jan 6, 2019
- 456
N only has one purpose, whereas helium has benign uses. So I think the duty on the vet to keep it secure is pretty high.
Otherwise: I hear ya.
Meant2Die
Specialist
- Nov 8, 2019
- 307
Well It seems like they did stop selling helium kits that were appropriate for CTBing and changed the content mixture. (Ballon Time specifically, the one you're taking about being found at party stores and wal-mart, but I saw other easily accessible brands have the same ratio when I was looking). FRom the Pph...
Meant2Die
Specialist
- Nov 8, 2019
- 307
Google search for Helium 2 go, brings up a bunch of AU sites. Are you in Australia? Glad to know it's avail somewehre :)
Fragile
Broken
- Jul 7, 2019
- 1,496
no, people definitely care, have you seen pro lifers lately? they are at full war on anything suicide related. if they trace it back to the animal shelter, then they will definitely have to answer many questions and maybe they will be up for a lawsuit if family members are pesky enough, and they usually are after a suicide.
and about the helium example you made, helium is now cut with 20% oxygen and i don't know if it's specifically to stop suicide attempts, but many people have raised concerns about it.
Can you really make it ?How about making your own Nembutal? Is this book any good?
https://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Nembutal-At-Home-ebook/dp/B07DBTNVM8
goldenrods
your angel
- Dec 27, 2019
- 84
just volunteer at a shelter & help the pets get homes !! it might not take your urges away but you'll feel a little happier
You wont even get near the N because is stored safely because its lethal.
Only the doctor has the key and mostly it are doctors who who come by on scheduled appointments or only one can access it
HereToday
Arcanist
- Dec 27, 2019
- 437
As everyone else has said, you won't be able to access it. If that was the case every animal shelter would have a shortage.
However, I recommend you volunteer anyway. Volunteering at a dog shelter was one of the best things I did in life. It gives you peace, love and purpose... Even if only temporary.
However, I recommend you volunteer anyway. Volunteering at a dog shelter was one of the best things I did in life. It gives you peace, love and purpose... Even if only temporary.
They are not that nice. I volunteered as a dog walker. They said dogs get adopted all the time. Cats if they were not adopted in a certain time frame, they would put them down healthy.
Vets are licensed they could buy more.
But agreed stealing is wrong. Thats the moral dilemma. Is it a justifiable thing to do.
autumnal
Enlightened
- Feb 4, 2020
- 1,950
Yeah, as everyone else has said, controlled drugs like Nembutal are generally kept under lock-and-key, and all quantities dispensed have to be logged and signed for, sometimes even countersigned by a second person such as in a (human) hospital setting. The reason isn't only due to the deadliness, it's the potential for abuse, addiction and resale.
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