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Triangle

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It seems most depression resources are tailored for people who have been depressed for relatively short-term periods of time, like weeks or months. Not only that, but they are mostly focused to be informative on what depression entails rather than how to get better, as an introduction to someone who is unfamiliar with the illness. When they do touch upon recovery, it's often on how to help a loved one rather than yourself. The most common thing stated is to "tell a loved one about how you feel."

Of course, speaking to a therapist and eating medicine are also often suggested.

While it's respectable that there are resources to try to explain to non-depressed people and I am not trying to downplay the pain of people who have been depressed for shorter periods of time, what about people who have been depressed for many years, even since early childhood—as soon as before the age of 10? People who never got a chance at feeling good about themselves? People who have had terrible experiences with therapists/psychologists/etc. and have fruitlessly tried multiple medications? Or the people who don't have loved ones at all... It feels counterproductive that speaking to loved ones is often the sole piece of advice given when so many people become depressed in the first place because they don't have any. Many people care about mental health AWARENESS but nobody is there to actually HELP the ones who don't recover after a few pills and a chat with a therapist.

The first time I was bullied was at the age of three. I would say that I had fully become depressed and unusually cynical by the age of 9, possibly even suicidal (I just know that I wasn't suicidal for some time because I just didn't know about the concept existing). Depression has deeply been an inherent part of life in general for me. I'm fortunate enough to have someone to call a friend now, but there's no point for me to follow the advice on bringing up suicidal feelings because it's become accepted that I'm always like that. When it's been in my life for so long, it stops becoming an urgent matter to talk about and it's just part of my life. The only thing my friend and I know to do to help me is to find short-term distractions during especially painful times.

We both want to have me actually get better and recover, but don't know how to do that. I do all the generic depression advice: taking care or my physical health, going outside, spending time doing the things I like (but don't derive pleasure from), trying new things, talking with a friend... It's been longer than I can remember and I don't feel as though I'm making much progress. I still get very suicidal just like I did years ago. I still feel empty and dull, like before. I'm not currently in a position where my personal life situation allows me to access professional help, but I feel terrified at the idea anyway because of past bad experiences with therapy. What am I supposed to do when depression has always been my reality? Am I just doomed to spend life unable to feel happy? What do you do when the standard advice isn't helping you progress?

I don't really want to kill myself, but the feeling of sadness and the inability to feel pleasant just refuse to go away and I'm losing the will to keep trying when it seems like I'm getting nowhere.
 
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I hear you, I've had depression since I was nine and it has sucked ass the whole time. What life situation is holding you back from getting help? A good therapist sounds like they would be very helpful right about now. I have a piece of shit as a therapist so emphasis on a good therapist because there is a healthy amount of shitty ones. I hope you are able to get this straightened out
Peace/hugs❤️
 
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I hear you, I've had depression since I was nine and it has sucked ass the whole time. What life situation is holding you back from getting help? A good therapist sounds like they would be very helpful right about now. I have a piece of shit as a therapist so emphasis on a good therapist because there is a healthy amount of shitty ones. I hope you are able to get this straightened out
Peace/hugs❤
It's kind of personal, but in summary I don't have the transportation and also I'm still living in the same area as I did when i had bad therapists, so I'm worried I'll come in contact with them or people associated with them. I'm hoping that once I get a chance to move somewhere else (probably in 2 or 3 years) I can start fresh and find a new therapist. Hope everything goes well for you too.
 
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I can sort of relate with how you're feeling.

I've dealt with depression since I was 11 as I was made fun of and wanted to be accepted desperately. Then when I was 20 I got in a bad car accident that ruined my life. I'm disabled as have 12 disabilities the US considers disabilities to collect SSDI and I've been denied for the past 5 & 1/2 years.. Aside from that I can't remember the last time I truly felt happiness. I have one good friend because when my car accident happened I slowly lost all of my friends except for one and I'm really alone and depressed I don't to live anymore. I wake up, go through the motions, spend most of my time watching netflix, hoping I wont wake up the next day.
 
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OP - exactly, I agree with you entirely. And Bananas, so sorry, that is really hard.

OP - I have been depressed for over 20 years and have tried therapy and some medication. I am just keeping trying things, hoping to find something that helps my brain chemistry. Sometimes I get lucky for 2 weeks! Then back to depression. I am still trying for now, as I have some more options available.

I post here whenever I find options - et Agmatine, Sarcosine - and I am always researching them. I did hear very good things about Bromantine. I will do an all-together list sometime of everything I have looked at. Agmatine and Sarcosine work on the same receptors as Ketamine, but in different ways, and should be legally availab le.

I would join Nootropics groups on FB for tips and there is also a depression and anhedonia group. Don't give up trying to find something that helps your chemistry. (until and if you decide you have really had enough...).

Eg I have constant suicidal thoughts and depression, but today I don't have the suicidal thoughts, though still al ittle low, but do think I can get out of bed. That is thanks to my current medication, which is Selegiline 5mg.

Do also look into Modafinil for occasional use - it is amazing imo.
 
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dandan

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hi Triangle,

im also a little square about recovery,
listen, Im through with depression, testosterone and dianabol just slashed and cut from the root my depression

but how im I supposed to enjoy living now? I only learned to be depressed, 20 years by the way.

at the moment, the most painful thing is my economic future seems a little harsh,
because I grew up with money, but I did not learned to make money myself
and I wont inherit much and Im in a bit of trouble because
"I really suck at my job"

Now, lets forget about money.

What about life by itself then?
I read you... now listen, you have "story", you can "tell your story" and I can believe it and say, "ooooh yes, how can you be happy with such experience"
but I wont do that Triangle

how do you know you can be happier than you are now?

you say you are doing things to keep you distracted or to keep you from being depressed all time...

What im doing, in my personal experience,
besides trying to improve my financial situation.
I am using language as a tool to improve my reality.

Language shapes reality, not merely describes it... I'm trying to become a language master,
saying different things, thinking in a different way,
I try to improve the conversation I have in my head with myself in a more empowering way
thats it, theres more to it, hit me a msg if you want to continue conversating about this
 
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I can relate and agree with what you wrote. Though for me it only started in my early teens it's been with me ever since. 2 decades later still the same shit. I don't even want "help" anymore. I know what needs to change and that what cannot change. Perseverance will bring nothing other than guaranteed depression,suffering,loneliness,unhappiness,mental and physical fatigue,meds,loads of working while living paycheck to paycheck etc etc . If shit by some miracle would change i might have given it a try but the future looks grim. I just want out that's all .. i couldn't care less about therapy and whatnot. Sure i can agree there are good things still that can happen .. true but it can also get worse. I'm not sticking arround for another year or decade to find out.

In some way yes i agree we are blinded and beyond solace in our depression. But instead of blinded for me it feels like it opened my eyes to the world we live in. It ain't pretty. No more rose tinted glasses.

@dandan I get what you are saying though don't get me wrong. I very much advise anyone to give it at least one more shot and if possible trying to change your thinking. I'm pro choice. If you have fight left in you by all means try. If not then i wish you all the best regardless.
 
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I can relate and agree with what you wrote. Though for me it only started in my early teens it's been with me ever since. 2 decades later still the same shit. I don't even want "help" anymore. I know what needs to change and that what cannot change. Perseverance will bring nothing other than guaranteed depression,suffering,loneliness,unhappiness,mental and physical fatigue,meds,loads of working while living paycheck to paycheck etc etc . If shit by some miracle would change i might have given it a try but the future looks grim. I just want out that's all .. i couldn't care less about therapy and whatnot. Sure i can agree there are good things still that can happen .. true but it can also get worse. I'm not sticking arround for another year or decade to find out.

In some way yes i agree we are blinded and beyond solace in our depression. But instead of blinded for me it feels like it opened my eyes to the world we live in. It ain't pretty. No more rose tinted glasses.


Great, I feel you.

Today I am having unpleasant thoughts about the future, complaining about past mistakes, and with the conversation in my mind about how I am not meeting the employment standards, and I blame the 20 years of depression, how ECT therapy must've messed up my brain and capacity to learn, and drug abuse, and emotion torture for 20 years, plus 2 hard hits in the head, real hard, doctors couldnt predict if I would recover "sanity".

So todaythe future does looks grim, financially, and that is very disturbing.
Specially because my parents force me to sold what today is 2million dollar amount of ethereum, when I crashed my car and couldnt pay for it.
Plus they never invested not even 1 bitcoin when I asked them too... we couldve made such a big amount of money, but they didnt hear me.
and I begged them for around 2 years , 7 years ago, but I was "crazy".

Today, with testosterone and dianabol I feel good, but I dont have more than 300usd in my bank account and Ive been "saving" for a long time.... like you said
living paycheck to paycheck.

fuck....

I have N in my fridge.... I could drink it and let all be over :)

it is expirating on March 2020, and probably lasts a few more months after the expiration date....

I am tempted hahahahaha LOL
If I could work fluently I would have no problem, but I am having trouble working, and I dont know what else could I do to earn money.....
So I am really worried.....

specially about the money part....damm...

its not that I dont want to work, its that I dont want to live paycheck to paycheck, and I dont know what I could do....
plus I can loose my job and it would be hard to obtain a job with the same paycheck amount...
so I feel doomed....

why are you still alive? what are you holding on?

I always holded on the idea I could feel fine.
today with testo and dianabol, I feel fine, I feel cool.
but now the lack of skills to make money are really fucking me up...

so now I have less to hold on to...
do you undestand what Im trying to say?
I guess what im trying to say, its that I can still consider CTB'ing as a way out of this annoying sensation,
that couldve been avoided if my parents invested even 500usd in Ethereum the day it launched and the day I begged them... damm..

any comments anyone?
 

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