Generator CO suicide: successful?

[virginiawoolf86]

I'm currently reviewing generators for CO suicide. I know that I need one that doesn't have a detector of CO output with automatic shut off. I don't have a lot to spend. I found one in the $130 range. I figure I'll have it sent over to the store for pickup so as not to arouse suspicion at home. I'd drive somewhere remote so the noise doesn't attract any attention.

Anyone know of someone who has had success with generators for CO death? I've been trying to decide what's best for me. I've been suffering a lot this past year. I need peace.

 

[KiraComplex]

lots of people die every year for being stupid with generators. if they dont know that theres CO being breathed, then i dont think youll know.

 

[No_Effort_Left]

Noexperience,

A search of the manufacturer should tell you if it does have CO detection

But they can prove to be very lethal,
If the allure of a CO death is what you seek

A generator in enclosed area will kill,

Though If found during the time you can be usually saved

 

[Tiredsotired]

I'm currently reviewing generators for CO suicide. I know that I need one that doesn't have a detector of CO output with automatic shut off. I don't have a lot to spend. I found one in the $130 range. I figure I'll have it sent over to the store for pickup so as not to arouse suspicion at home. I'd drive somewhere remote so the noise doesn't attract any attention.

Anyone know of someone who has had success with generators for CO death? I've been trying to decide what's best for me. I've been suffering a lot this past year. I need peace.

Is it easy to order one online? Do they ask any questions?

 

[virginiawoolf86]

Is it easy to order one online? Do they ask any questions?

No questions. Just have to get a ppm to test how much CO is in the air when you do it (or so I was told). Also, it needs to be non Carb-compliant.

 

[Meditation guide]

They are extremely loud, like a jackhammer.
It won't be long before all of them will have a carbon monoxide cut off.

 

[Soul]

I read a peer-reviewed article that said leaf blowers generated the most CO the fastest.

 

[Alucard]

Where can we buy a CO generator ?

 

[Soul]

Okay, I have to take everything back about leaf blowers:

Garage carbon monoxide levels from sources commonly used in intentional poisoning - PubMed

While emissions controls on automobiles have reduced intentional CO poisonings, alternate sources may produce CO at levels of the same magnitude as vehicles manufactured prior to the use of catalytic converters. Those involved in the care of potentially suicidal individuals should be aware of this.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

According to that research they're not bad, but not the most efficient. A generator has higher levels.

@Alucard, the item to look for is a gas-powered electric generator, not a CO-generator.

 

[InTheAirTonight]

Okay, I have to take everything back about leaf blowers:

Garage carbon monoxide levels from sources commonly used in intentional poisoning - PubMed

While emissions controls on automobiles have reduced intentional CO poisonings, alternate sources may produce CO at levels of the same magnitude as vehicles manufactured prior to the use of catalytic converters. Those involved in the care of potentially suicidal individuals should be aware of this.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

According to that research they're not bad, but not the most efficient. A generator has higher levels.

@Alucard, the item to look for is a gas-powered electric generator, not a CO-generator.

Good resource, thanks. Leaf blower still seems better than the usual charcoal method. Plus they measured in a 73m3 garage, so the CO will be much higher if done in a car or small room. I think I'm going with the leaf blower, maybe with some ear protection to drown out the noise. Generator usually have an CO safety off feature, I don't think leaf blowers do. Far easier than setting up charcoals that's for sure. I'm going to try the leaf blower method soon.

 

[Tiredsotired]

Good resource, thanks. Leaf blower still seems better than the usual charcoal method. Plus they measured in a 73m3 garage, so the CO will be much higher if done in a car or small room. I think I'm going with the leaf blower, maybe with some ear protection to drown out the noise. Generator usually have an CO safety off feature, I don't think leaf blowers do. Far easier than setting up charcoals that's for sure. I'm going to try the leaf blower method soon.

I just checked the generator to see how big it is and the price. That thing is around 1000$ and is way too big to even get into my little bathroom so it's a no-go for me. Then I checked the leaf blower prices and it's way more affordable and easily purchased at any hardware stores. The problem is the noise if you live in a small apartment like me. There's no way I can leave it on for hours without having someone eventually knocking at my door and potentially being "saved". It's really really loud. But then you mentioned the car option, which would be doable but I'd have to find a really remote area to hide the car. I wonder how effective it is and how much time it would take to die that way.

Someone also mentioned CO poisoning by wood pellet storage in another thread. I think it's an option worth exploring too.

Carbon monoxide poisoning in wood pellet storerooms - PubMed

First responders have to be aware of the dangers of carbon monoxide in wood pellet storerooms. Basic precautions and safety instructions should be followed before entering a wood pellet storeroom. Carbon monoxide should be measured before entering and self-contained breathing apparatus should be...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lethal carbon monoxide poisoning in wood pellet storerooms--two cases and a review of the literature - PubMed

The installation of wood pellet heating as a cost-effective and climatically neutral source of energy for private households has increased steadily in recent years. We report two deaths that occurred within the space of about a year in wood pellet storerooms of private households in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Soul]

The noise could be problematic even without neighbors - not the nicest racket to end my life in. I was thinking of leaving the thing running in my chosen space for an hour or so and then turning it off and taking a bucket of properly burned charcoal in with me.

I think I posted one of those wood pellet articles. Pretty interesting, if one has the space for it and the ability to order a delivery without attracting attention.

 

[Tiredsotired]

The noise could be problematic even without neighbors - not the nicest racket to end my life in. I was thinking of leaving the thing running in my chosen space for an hour or so and then turning it off and taking a bucket of properly burned charcoal in with me.

I think I posted one of those wood pellet articles. Pretty interesting, if one has the space for it and the ability to order a delivery without attracting attention.

You're right about the racket, I'd rather exit in silence or with some music. But if I could be sure this method was reliable, then I'd go for it and endure the noise, I think I would be dead pretty quickly anyway. The problem is the planning. Go hide in the woods with my car, turn the blower on inside the car while I wait outside and then get inside and turn the blower off and just doze off. I'd have to leave a message in my apartment so when my family comes looking for me, they'll know why I disappeared and won't alert the media. The last thing I want is to have my picture in the news. I guess the most ideal place would be in a very isolated little wood shed with no nearby neighbors.

For the wood pellets, I want to know how much I'd need to store in my small apartment for it to be lethal. I saw that they're selling wood pellet fuel at Home Depot (in Canada) at 5-6$ for 40 pounds. I'd just go buy them directly at the store. It would look way suspicious to have a bunch of bags delivered to a tenant of an apartment building. I live alone so I'd just store them in some corner of my apartment and my little walk-in closet.

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/granules-lg-premium-satisfaction-40-lbs-wood-pellet-fuel/1000686702

 

[bigdog]

so if you buy a generator and put it for example in bathroom you die?

 

[My_name_is_Luka]

maybe use some ear defenders if the noise is too much. Check the dB levels to see how much it can be reduced. It would be better not to switch it off, the concentration of CO might decrease due to leaks.
It would be nice to know what to look for in the technical details of the leaf blowers, in order to understand if the production of CO is not reduced. Otherwise there is the risk to buy something and then discover that the production of CO is not sufficient.
I suppose that it's also mandatory to buy a CO meter up to 10kppm, which are quite expensive. There would be no way to have the emission profile of the leaf blower and to calculate the amount of time needed to fill up a car..

 

[Meditation guide]

maybe use some ear defenders if the noise is too much.

Maybe people here have never heard the noise leaf blowers make? I cannot stand to be in my house with any of the working outside, it's unbearable. The guys using them have those headphone type ear protectors but still they must be deaf after one week of using those things. Ever hear a jackhammer? It's louder. It's an ear shattering whine.

 

[Ydoeslifesuck]

I like the way using a leaf blower sounds. I know it would have to be gas powered but does it need to be a certain size? And would anyone know about how much time I would need to make sure I can't be resuscitated or live as a vegetable?

 

[scubaguy]

What about a gas/petrol lawnmower. I thought about that many years ago, tie up handle to keep it running

 

[Nymph]

Cutting, car fumes death (idk what the gas is called in English lol), torture and anything super painful l

 

[InaccessibleHour]

I haven't heard of anyone using generators as a CTB method but obviously there's lots of accidental cases of such. Provided you live in a private home or do it when no one else is around and you're buying an older generator that doesn't have a CO shutoff, which it sounds like you've found for a decent price, it should be incredibly easy as they put out far more than enough CO.

I've considered this back when I was on this site a couple years ago as I lived, and still live, at home and am unaware of where to carry out the charcoal method without harming others, although I haven't researched that a whole bunch to see if there's a better way to do it. Just the fact that there's smoke and IDK if it will generate enough CO, I've heard stories of several people coming back from it. And, I don't know how I'd go about ordering the necessary items without my parents noticing, as I don't go out by myself and I rarely pay for stuff either, so it'd look suspicious and I'd have to convince them somehow for some practical reason to buy what is needed for this method.
But when I began my research again fairly recently generators originally sounded like a far better option to me, just seeing as the older ones that ain't safety approved or turn off after detecting too much CO are a great choice for this method. Not to mention I have a decent practical excuse in mind to convince them to buy a generator. Although hearing about how much noise they produce wards me off heavily and as there's virtually always at least one person in the house at all times it would take quite some time before I'd find the chance to safely carry out this method.

 

[Tiredsotired]

In the news where I live in Quebec, two men died in their car during a major major winter storm. They were on the country side of the province, far from any city and it was night time. They had to stop their car in the middle of nowhere because the road visibility was nonexsistent. They decided to wait for the storm to stop and hoped someone would come to get them out of there. Nobody came and their car was quickly buried in snow. They left the car running to keep warm and with the exhaust pipe being completely blocked out by the snow, they fell unconscious and died of CO poisoning.

This is something I often think of doing. Just let the car be completely buried in snow and let it run, making sure the exhaust pipe is blocked with snow. It should be a peaceful and painless way to ctb.

 

[InaccessibleHour]

Oof, as a fellow Canadian seeing as I just moved to a place with very little snow guess that's not an option for me lol. Guess I don't drive any vehicles so it wouldn't matter anyway...... though if I did manage to get a vehicle and a driver's and go inland a ways during a Winter Storm enough snow may fall to make that possible

 

[Tiredsotired]

Oof, as a fellow Canadian seeing as I just moved to a place with very little snow guess that's not an option for me lol. Guess I don't drive any vehicles so it wouldn't matter anyway...... though if I did manage to get a vehicle and a driver's and go inland a ways during a Winter Storm enough snow may fall to make that possible

Come to Quebec or Ontario and rent yourself a car. Or just go north of whichever province you're in, you'll get snow eventually the higher you go. If you're in BC, drive to Alaska. Of course, start with getting your driver's license.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

In the news where I live in Quebec, two men died in their car during a major major winter storm. They were on the country side of the province, far from any city and it was night time. They had to stop their car in the middle of nowhere because the road visibility was nonexsistent. They decided to wait for the storm to stop and hoped someone would come to get them out of there. Nobody came and their car was quickly buried in snow. They left the car running to keep warm and with the exhaust pipe being completely blocked out by the snow, they fell unconscious and died of CO poisoning.

This is something I often think of doing. Just let the car be completely buried in snow and let it run, making sure the exhaust pipe is blocked with snow. It should be a peaceful and painless way to ctb.

The story sounds plausible but they had to be driving an old car. Newer vehicles are modified to prevent C02 poisoning. Otherwise people would still be running garden hoses from their exhaust into a cracked window like the old days.

 

[Tiredsotired]

The story sounds plausible but they had to be driving an old car. Newer vehicles are modified to prevent C02 poisoning. Otherwise people would still be running garden hoses from their exhaust into a cracked window like the old days.

I don't know if they had an older or newer car but could it be possible that the thick layer of snow covering the car made it a hermetically sealed chamber where all the CO inside was well trapped? It probably became like a coffin where they eventually ran out of oxygen inside and the CO filled up the car from the motor running?

I mean it happened in 2017 so I can't imagine them driving a 30 year-old car. We have laws forbidding drivers to have really old cars. It was one of the worst winter storms the province had ever seen. They called for help but they were too hard to find and made it a very dangerous mission for the emergency services to come save them. They tried looking for them but had to stop cause they were themselves in danger of getting trapped in snow. The men were found dead the next day.

 

[InaccessibleHour]

Both fair viewpoints. We don't have an older car so this probably wouldn't work although I didn't know that we couldn't drive really old cars around here. Maybe there's a car old enough to be able to still produce CO from exhaust but new enough to be legal?
I'm in no position till I get my drivers to do anything like this anyway, IDK maybe I could sneak out during an inland trip and do this if there was a winter storm, doing it at home would be fairly risky as I'd need to drive at least half an hour in and then it might stop or would snow enough to snow me in but not actually kill me for CO, and while I'm waiting maybe it'd become morning and they'd notice the vehicle's gone and notify authorities immediately, and may become suspicious because they've known me to be on this site before.
And it'd be a gamble to trust in @Tiredsotired's theory. Not saying it's not impossible but one of my conditions for suicide methods is I must know fully damn well that they're reliable and work, and IDK if a new car being buried in snow would do the trick or not, soooooo

 

[Tiredsotired]

Both fair viewpoints. We don't have an older car so this probably wouldn't work although I didn't know that we couldn't drive really old cars around here. Maybe there's a car old enough to be able to still produce CO from exhaust but new enough to be legal?
I'm in no position till I get my drivers to do anything like this anyway, IDK maybe I could sneak out during an inland trip and do this if there was a winter storm, doing it at home would be fairly risky as I'd need to drive at least half an hour in and then it might stop or would snow enough to snow me in but not actually kill me for CO, and while I'm waiting maybe it'd become morning and they'd notice the vehicle's gone and notify authorities immediately, and may become suspicious because they've known me to be on this site before.
And it'd be a gamble to trust in @Tiredsotired's theory. Not saying it's not impossible but one of my conditions for suicide methods is I must know fully damn well that they're reliable and work, and IDK if a new car being buried in snow would do the trick or not, soooooo

I think the point of the law is that older cars pollute a lot more than newer ones, so if the cops see an old car on the road that looks very worn down and emits a lot of dark smoke, they'll stop you to do a checkup and might order you to get rid of the car. It's more about how much pollution your old car creates. I don't know the laws in the other canadian provinces but that's how it is in Quebec.

As for my theory, yeah it's just a theory as I'm in no way an expert in that domain. I'm just trying to find an explanation as to how the men died in their buried car in the blizzard. I have no way of knowing how old their car was from the news publications of their death.

 

[a.h]

I just checked the generator to see how big it is and the price. That thing is around 1000$ and is way too big to even get into my little bathroom so it's a no-go for me. Then I checked the leaf blower prices and it's way more affordable and easily purchased at any hardware stores. The problem is the noise if you live in a small apartment like me. There's no way I can leave it on for hours without having someone eventually knocking at my door and potentially being "saved". It's really really loud. But then you mentioned the car option, which would be doable but I'd have to find a really remote area to hide the car. I wonder how effective it is and how much time it would take to die that way.

Someone also mentioned CO poisoning by wood pellet storage in another thread. I think it's an option worth exploring too.

Carbon monoxide poisoning in wood pellet storerooms - PubMed

First responders have to be aware of the dangers of carbon monoxide in wood pellet storerooms. Basic precautions and safety instructions should be followed before entering a wood pellet storeroom. Carbon monoxide should be measured before entering and self-contained breathing apparatus should be...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lethal carbon monoxide poisoning in wood pellet storerooms--two cases and a review of the literature - PubMed

The installation of wood pellet heating as a cost-effective and climatically neutral source of energy for private households has increased steadily in recent years. We report two deaths that occurred within the space of about a year in wood pellet storerooms of private households in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If generator (cheap one) is on in car trunk or seats the noise is not loud to outside. It's similar or quieter than the car motor when the car is on.

I don't know how much making soundbox to it would help since the sides of generator, where the exhaust fumes comes, must be open.

Quietest ones sold here have plastic coverage and are shaped like box. But they are still loud.

 

[Meditation guide]

The thing about old cars and exhaust is you are breathing exhaust although the time I had mild carbon monoxide poisoning I didn't smell any exhaust as I was in the house and the car was in the garage. It was a pretty bad feeling, headache and body aches.