forced intervention

[1964dodge]

should someone be forced to go through treatments and involuntary hospitalization?

my opinion is if a person is suicidal they should be carefully checked for mental illness like depression etc. if they think things can not get better for physical/mental illness leave the person alone and let him/her do what they want. but if there is a possibility of getting to a good quality of life they should make a person try (with help and support) to get better including involuntary hospitalization. after 1 to 2 years if they still want to ctb it's their decision not illness talking. I think everyone should have the chance to live then the right to die.

 

[Jayxtri]

It's because they are bound with moral and social values. They just can't say, "Ok, go ahead kill yourself." It will never happen,so it is in our own hands I think. Later after we kill ourselves they will be seen saying ,"Well, he was in pain now he will be in peace.' So it's the society that takes suicide as taboo and evil, they will do anything in their might to stop you. We suicidal people may take it rationally but it's hard for them to think that way.

 

[TAW122]

I think if it is clear and understood that someone is truly and genuinely suicidal, then there should be no forced intervention or involuntary commitment against the person's will. To be fair and considering the whole picture, in an ideal reality, what should happen is the authorities and first responders are called (they don't know the situation yet) but as soon as it's clear that the person is suffering greatly and truly wants to die, then the person should be left to his/her own and die.

As far as checking for mental illness and rationality in their choice, I think this could be a good idea, but only if the person is able to 'openly or freely' talk about their decision and desire to ctb, WITHOUT the threat of involuntary commitment or forced intervention (treatment, sent to psychward, locked up against their will). Currently, a lot of people won't even open up for the fear of involuntary commitment and have to hide while secretly acquiring their method, planning their exit, and then hope that they muster enough courage to override survival instinct and succeed in their attempt.

Now if were talking about minors (under 18), then it does get into a gray area, not just with the parents/guardian, but more about whether the person is making a sound decision and there would be more checks and criteria to go through. I would still say that for minors, forced intervention should still be heavily discouraged (unless it is clear that the person is impulsive, going through just a phase, will likely fail and get severely injured - possibly end up even worse, a vegetable or severely physically disabled from said attempt), unless it is a last resort.

 

[Umbra]

No, it's their choice no matter what. Even if you are 100% certain an individual's life will get better they still should be able to make the choice themselves instead of essentially being held hostage.

 

[Deleted member 1768]

should someone be forced to go through treatments and involuntary hospitalization?

my opinion is if a person is suicidal they should be carefully checked for mental illness like depression etc. if they think things can not get better for physical/mental illness leave the person alone and let him/her do what they want. but if there is a possibility of getting to a good quality of life they should make a person try (with help and support) to get better including involuntary hospitalization. after 1 to 2 years if they still want to ctb it's their decision not illness talking. I think everyone should have the chance to live then the right to die.

Forgive for this dodge, but how would they check for mental illness or depression? To incarcerate anyone against their will is called 'prison'. In the case of so-called mental health authorities there is no appeal, no measurement of disability, no quantifiable tests. In short you are at the mercy of whatever the evaluator is feeling at the time. Would you trust anyone, including a doctor, to find a physical ailment without blood tests, x-rays, ct, etc? I would not, nor can I agree with your opinion on this. Too much room for terrible errors, and who pays for this transgression? The patient.