Jayxtri
Student
- Mar 6, 2019
- 123
So he did a live video on SN and other topics.
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You know I'm just gonna conclude that NO method is peaceful (except maybe N), so unless you got N money, then we deal with the consequences and suck it up. (not to sound rude)
I'm just gonna look for methods that involve the least pain i suppose. But I gotta leave. I can't keep staying cause of this.
I'm just gonna look for methods that involve the least pain i suppose. But I gotta leave. I can't keep staying cause of this.
Wow, that's a big change from what he was saying about it before. Was there anything else new/important in the livestream?
TheGoodGuy
Visionary
- Aug 27, 2018
- 2,999
I have said this many times before but I will say it again I would never be comfortable using SN, I know the majority on this site plans to use SN to ctb but to me it seems like there is no real knowledge except bro-science. I am sure SN will kill you but so will many poisons like anti freeze but that doesn´t mean it will be peaceful. If I were to ctb with a drug I would use something that there are plenty of knowledge and studies about like heroin or something like that because we know that it will be peaceful.
alizee
Arcanist
- Jul 22, 2018
- 452
I'm not really sure why but I think you shouldn't care if it's peaceful and when everything will be over in a few moments after you take the drug. Maybe it's because I grew up doing activities that resulted in some injuries. I just think pain is sometimes necessary to get anything worthwhile. You could always save up for some morphine or heavy cannabis and where you will be numbed out when taking the drug to end your life.
TheGoodGuy
Visionary
- Aug 27, 2018
- 2,999
I completely agree that is also why I don´t wanna discourage anyone from it because to be honest what are some minutes of pain compared to a whole lifetime of misery.
Jayxtri
Student
- Mar 6, 2019
- 123
OK he is referring that the article published is wrong. The video with sound clears things up. Sorry if I made a wrong assumption....because his first video had no sound. You can check his FB page. Sorry again...
Duuuude, almost had an heart attack. Today was supposed to be a good day, I bought my way out after all.
Jayxtri
Student
- Mar 6, 2019
- 123
Me too. I saw the first video and there was no sound in his stream. Basically saw only the written stuff. So I was shocked. He was presenting the articles written by a paper and later said that it was wrong.
I know!! i was so discouraged lol i am so sure of SN. I immediately posted to the N megethread
thinking that SN was out of the option
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I trust SN. As much anything that cuts oxygen like CO method, Helium method, exit bag, drown in water. To cut oxygen takes seconds with exit bag, and in 5 seconds you are in comma. What pain could I feel in comma?
I could be wrong. The problem is the lack of trusty testimonies or books.
Jayxtri
Student
- Mar 6, 2019
- 123
Can't delete this thread now. I am really embarrassed.... Please watch his another video for clear info.
I watched the video, but when did he say that he was saying the article was wrong? I didn't pick up on that maybe I wasn't listening
I'm sorry I doesn't have facebook account. Is it available in another place?
TheGoodGuy
Visionary
- Aug 27, 2018
- 2,999
You would feel no pain in a coma, but with the methods you mentioned like CO poisoning there are tons of evidence about how the method works and that you just fall asleep; I sometimes come across a story on the news that a family has died of CO leak in a RV and they just go unconscious and die peacefully but with SN mostly the only "knowledge" I have been able to find is from this forum it´s so scarce and I wouldn´t put my trust in a potential agonizing death because of bro-science just saying.
Jayxtri
Student
- Mar 6, 2019
- 123
Will anyone be able to watch the next livestream and do a screen grab or something? I think you have to be over 50 or over a certain age, he mentioned providing ids, but if someone could record the stream of the workshop that would be so useful.
English is not my native language and I have some difficulties understanding the message. Did he said that SN is not a peaceful method, or is it?
Jayxtri
Student
- Mar 6, 2019
- 123
No,he said that it is peaceful. Other people are writing and saying it is painful which is wrong.
Elek
Student
- Feb 2, 2019
- 101
OT
OMG, the SARCO machine will be on display at Venice Design, it's just 20 minutes from where I live
If anyone else is interested here is the event's website: https://venice-design.com/exhibitions/comingup
It will be held in Palazzo Michiel from May 11th to November 24th.
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Most effective methods technically work by some form of "suffocation" so that fact alone is not a reason to assume SN is painful, in fact that is ludicrous. CO most notably causes suffocation by its higher affinity to cells thus inhibiting oxygen transport... virtually the same mechanism with minimal side effects,
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