Faking Tinnitus

[Snatsbats]

I just had this idea. So i live in the Netherlands where euthanasia is legally under some circumstances. The law says that under unbearable circumstamces euthanasia is legal. Isnt it possible for me to fake having Tinnitus and apply for euthanasia. Had someone already tried it. Wouldnt it also be accepted as a legitimate reason at the clinic in zwitserland?

 

[madebrief]

I have tinnitus. I can imagine in your case it will be hard to proof so.

You will need to have tests (even then might be hard for you to prove and "fail" the test). After that, probs go through all sorts of "recovery" and management techniques.

You're also going to need to have to act extremely well. Eg, how does this person manage to sleep so well and get on with the day with this.

It won't be something you will immediately be euthanised for….if you do it all well I think I will be a good few several years.

 

[OldDrummer]

As someone planning to CBT shortly because of this, I've a medical history of GP/MD and specialist visits built up over the years. You'd really need some paperwork/history built up beforehand.

 

[GasMonkey]

Tinnitus can be objectively demostrated via fMRI by observing the auditory cortex (and other parts of the brain) in silence, so if the doctor is smart enough he could catch you there. The tinnitus signal permeates a bunch of parts of the brain and that can be seen in the fMRI.



The auditory cortex of people with Tinnitus is always activated (since they are always hearing a lot of stuff even in total silence), but in people with no tinnitus the auditory cortex is off/non-stimulated in silence.

As someone planning to CBT shortly because of this, I've a medical history of GP/MD and specialist visits built up over the years. You'd really need some paperwork/history built up beforehand.

I have T too (I was on TinnitusTalk back in the day). Took me around 2 years to fully habituate, nowadays I don't care about it at all (6 years in). Induced by the classical loud noise exposure (at work) while being stressed at the same time (overtrainning + hypogonadism), (and yes it's loud and a bazillion different sounds).

I have several family/friends with T and they have never cared about it at all (most of them didn't even know that that sound has a medical name ).

 

[Someone123]

I think they could design tests and ask- can you hear this or this this or this and they'll giv eyou varying levels to see what you coudl hear, and you would have to be consistnet with the cutoff- that you can't hear anything below 80 or 90 decibels or something- I just don't think you could be consistent with this, knhowinig where the line is- I do think a simple heari98ng test like this would expose that you are lying, honestly.

 

[onetapgandhi]

My uncle has tinnitus. With the cochlear tests they have these days, its impossible to fake tinnitus. You can always fake backpain though

 

[Someone123]

My uncle has tinnitus. With the cochlear tests they have these days, its impossible to fake tinnitus. You can always fake backpain though

Eevn that they would thoroughly test before donig something so extreme as killing someone- I personally don't think that faking any medical condition would work, they woudl test very thoroughly first.

 

[Walilamdzii]

It's an inventive solution..

 

[Someone123]

It's an inventive solution..

But not realistic. If a person wants to achieve peace they need to be realistic.

 

[alexit]

Tinnitus is an acceptable reason? I had not heard that.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Tinnitus is an acceptable reason? I had not heard that.

Someone in the Netherlands was granted euthanasia for that reason.

 

[alexit]

Someone in the Netherlands was granted euthanasia for that reason.

Wow. I just need to get the money then.

 

[befree]

It´s also an acctepable reason to apply for VAD in Switzerland. But that the application is accepted does not mean you will be accepted for VAD.
You can´t fake Tinnitus.

 

[alexit]

It´s also an acctepable reason to apply for VAD in Switzerland. But that the application is accepted does not mean you will be accepted for VAD.
You can´t fake Tinnitus.

Nothing fake about my tinnitus. It's the actual reason I want to ctb

 

[befree]

Nothing fake about my tinnitus. It's the actual reason I want to ctb

This answer was not for you but for the OP. By the way, I know of one case that was accepted for VAD for tinnitus.

 

[Ico]

I just had this idea. So i live in the Netherlands where euthanasia is legally under some circumstances. The law says that under unbearable circumstamces euthanasia is legal. Isnt it possible for me to fake having Tinnitus and apply for euthanasia. Had someone already tried it. Wouldnt it also be accepted as a legitimate reason at the clinic in zwitserland?

I see a post like this, and it angers me to no end to live in the third-world country that is the United States. Our 'healthcare' system is so irrevocably broken that the best I could get for my severe tinnitus (after months of getting approvals) was, "I dunno. Take some Lipo Flavonoid and stop whining?".

Hell...I had an Orthopedic Doctor prescribe an anti-inflammatory that lists 'mood changes' as a rare side effect. When I called his office in crisis with intrisive thoughts (more than usual), he was like, "I'm not a 'Mood Guy'. Go to the ER".

 

[alexit]

I see a post like this, and it angers me to no end to live in the third-world country that is the United States. Our 'healthcare' system is so irrevocably broken that the best I could get for my severe tinnitus (after months of getting approvals) was, "I dunno. Take some Lipo Flavonoid and stop whining?".

Hell...I had an Orthopedic Doctor prescribe an anti-inflammatory that lists 'mood changes' as a rare side effect. When I called his office in crisis with intrisive thoughts (more than usual), he was like, "I'm not a 'Mood Guy'. Go to the ER".

ENTs are the worst doctors. All the crap they give chiropractors I feel ENTs deserve and more. My tinnitus was from an ear infection that went untreated because "everything looked good" with their fucking little flashlight. The ENT medical textbook must be really simple with just one chapter titled, "Little flashlight pointed inside ear". It took 20 ENTs to cure a fucking ear infection. I might not have tinnitus if I had received quality care.

That doctor you saw deserves to be review bombed so people know not to see him. I have a good grasp of tinnitus treatments. Feel free to message me. You absolutely can do something about it. You can do a lot of things. You can get hearing aid sound generators or use Bluetooth headphones for sound therapy. Seriously, there's stuff you can do.

 

[アホペンギン]

ENTs are the worst doctors. All the crap they give chiropractors I feel ENTs deserve and more. My tinnitus was from an ear infection that went untreated because "everything looked good" with their fucking little flashlight. The ENT medical textbook must be really simple with just one chapter titled, "Little flashlight pointed inside ear". It took 20 ENTs to cure a fucking ear infection. I might not have tinnitus if I had received quality care.

That doctor you saw deserves to be review bombed so people know not to see him. I have a good grasp of tinnitus treatments. Feel free to message me. You absolutely can do something about it. You can do a lot of things. You can get hearing aid sound generators or use Bluetooth headphones for sound therapy. Seriously, there's stuff you can do.

Me too, i had an ear infection a few months ago in my right ear and since then, i couldn't hear as well from that ear but i don't have tinnitus. Theres just an extremely loud ringing sound in my ear when im lying down on my right side. The doctor seemed to not care, gave me a few medications and the infection became worse and worse, luckily i don't have any serious damage but i agree with you that ENTs are some of the worst doctors.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

You can´t fake Tinnitus.

How is Tinnitus measured?

 

[befree]

How is Tinnitus measured?

Measuring Tinnitus | American Tinnitus Association

Learn about some of the tests and assessments that professionals use when evaluating tinnitus in patients.

www.ata.org