Explain To Me Again? Trump Bad. Biden...Good?

[Of The Universe]

While Trump was in,we had no war. OK. Now Biden is here,and we have lots of war.
Trump something,something our democracy, our values and who we are. Biden something,something democracy good.
But all those thousands of dead and thousands of wounded, I think,might have been happier with the way it was.
No missiles coming down on their house.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

They're both lame old capitalist pigs, just make someone cool like Moist Critical as president, then we'd all be way too busy testing weird hot sauces and shit to go to war with anyone.

 

[Symbiote]

Trump was an idiot mouth breather who's own controversial opinions and talk kept the world so occupied at how dumb we were to elect him that they didn't start any shit with anyone. Biden not strong enough to handle international politics and will cave to whomever he feels America wronged them in. Biden and his entire cabinet are out of touch with real Americans.

 

[walt]

Trump : 800 billion dollar trade war with China
repealed the publicization of statistics on civilian casualties via drone strikes that Obama passed
didn't bring business back
wall barely works
distanced us from our closest allies
called Africa a "shithole", ending future business ventures, which China proceeded to gobble up

:)

 

[Of The Universe]

But no war. And no one talking about nukes!

 

[symphony]

Say what you want about Biden, I'm not a fan of his by any means, but correlation is not causation. The claim that there's currently war in Europe because Biden is president instead of Trump (and therefore "Biden bad") is pretty naively oversimplistic.

 

[walt]

But no war. And no one talking about nukes!

...?
There was dozens of wars under Trump, there's only 1 more under Biden. Talks about nukes happen under every modern presidency, including Trumps, with regards to North Korea.

Biden has done everything short of wiping Russia off the map, their economy will suffer for generations to come.

 

[YourNeighbor]

If you can't figure out the post hoc fallacy, don't try to figure out politics.

 

[Smart No More]

But no war. And no one talking about nukes!

You can't assume it wouldn't have happened if he was still in power now. With the greatest respect that appears to be what you're doing.
And for what it's worth I have little love for any governing figurehead and usually the fo- democracy they may apparently be leading.

 

[Life_and_Death]

Its the government. Are any of them really "good"?

 

[Dysgenic Pup]

Oh shit... talk about a spicy topic. Some people erupt just over the mention of Trump, so you are brave for creating this thread. Some of my family members refuse to talk because of this topic.

 

[Someone123]

Trump bad. Biden bad. Trump next. No end to bad in sight.

 

[CreatifUsrnam]

Politics bad.

 

[GrumpyFrog]

I don't know who's "we" that has lots of war. If that's Americans, last time I checked no one was hauling any missiles your way, you still have exacrly zero war. If that's everyone in the world, then unfortunately lots of war has been fairly consistent for decades and if that's due to American president bad can you please finally vote for someone good already, your government is failing their Avenger duty!

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

While Trump was in,we had no war. OK. Now Biden is here,and we have lots of war.
Trump something,something our democracy, our values and who we are. Biden something,something democracy good.
But all those thousands of dead and thousands of wounded, I think,might have been happier with the way it was.
No missiles coming down on their house.

and that's why I've always supported hardline democracy instead of weak policy-makers.

the global toll is there. Putin saw his opportunity and he took it.
Surprising to me Taiwan is still there.

 

[ameliacecelia]

Say what you want about Biden, I'm not a fan of his by any means, but correlation is not causation. The claim that there's currently war in Europe because Biden is president instead of Trump (and therefore "Biden bad") is pretty naively oversimplistic.

This. And reductionist.

 

[Quiet Desperation]

No matter how much you wish it was true, one has nothing to do with the other.

 

[kiuya]

Politics is about how much of propaganda you can spew out. Best not to get involved, esp. with American politics..

 

[whatevs]

Biden is an decrepit, hair-sniffing, child-groping creep that oozes duping delight and Trump some WWE actor which was a laughing stock and meme generator that leftists mistook for some kind of right-wing leader. Obviously two sides to the same status-quo coin.

 

[onlyanimalsaregood]

Say what you want about Biden, I'm not a fan of his by any means, but correlation is not causation. The claim that there's currently war in Europe because Biden is president instead of Trump (and therefore "Biden bad") is pretty naively oversimplistic.

Exactly.

 

[TotallyIsolated]

Once again the reactionaries have nothing. No talking points, no arguments, no evidence, nothing substantive at all.

They just deny, and deflect, and constantly move the goal posts. Just attack Biden's character and defend literally anything Trump did no matter how criminal nor explicitly against their own interests. Trump scammed them all and lied to them for years and they LOVE him for it.

 

[Sakura94]

This is a good interview by Noam Chomsky discussing a lot of the bad of Trump and the current climate. Be warned it's very doomer so if you're especially downbeat don't watch it.

 

[Panna]

I dislike our current president, I miss the memes.

 

[come to dust]

Biden is an decrepit, hair-sniffing, child-groping creep that oozes duping delight and Trump some WWE actor which was a laughing stock and meme generator that leftists mistook for some kind of right-wing leader. Obviously two sides to the same status-quo coin.

The fundamental difference is Trump simply does not like democracy, and loves and supports the idea of dictators taking over democracies, and is actively trying to make the USA's democracy erode.

 

[whatevs]

The fundamental difference is Trump simply does not like democracy, and loves and supports the idea of dictators taking over democracies, and is actively trying to make the USA's democracy erode.

Your democracy is a fucking joke that resulted in having to choose between two thoroughly criminal pieces of shit in Hillary and Trump. Sorry but it needs to be eroded. Only a complete moron would think there is something valuable in a kabuki show for the peasants to think they participate in government.

And here's something else that you never understood: a dictator that wants the best for the people is better than a puppet put in place for the plutocracy to defraud them.

 

[CowsAreCool]

This is a good interview by Noam Chomsky discussing a lot of the bad of Trump and the current climate. Be warned it's very doomer so if you're especially downbeat don't watch it.

Noam Chomsky is, and always has been, a laughingstock

 

[come to dust]

Your democracy is a fucking joke that resulted in having to choose between two thoroughly criminal pieces of shit in Hillary and Trump. Sorry but it needs to be eroded. Only a complete moron would think there is something valuable in a kabuki show for the peasants to think they participate in government.

And here's something else that you never understood: a dictator that wants the best for the people is better than a puppet put in place for the plutocracy to defraud them.

Your democracy is a fucking joke that resulted in having to choose between two thoroughly criminal pieces of shit in Hillary and Trump. Sorry but it needs to be eroded. Only a complete moron would think there is something valuable in a kabuki show for the peasants to think they participate in government.

And here's something else that you never understood: a dictator that wants the best for the people is better than a puppet put in place for the plutocracy to defraud them.

Lots of drivel with no substance. Just because you think a magical dictator makes everything better doesn't mean it is so

 

[Julgran]

While Trump was in,we had no war. OK. Now Biden is here,and we have lots of war.
Trump something,something our democracy, our values and who we are. Biden something,something democracy good.
But all those thousands of dead and thousands of wounded, I think,might have been happier with the way it was.
No missiles coming down on their house.

All presidents have their advantages and disadvantages, and sure, Trump didn't start any wars, but he continued the war in Syria, at least, and he started antagonizing China.

Say what you will about Trump, but I think that he was a force to be reckoned with - meaning that he wouldn't let anyone as much as talk back at him. By having such a bully-like personality as he has, he could have helped prevent the next great war that we may be entering. However, I'm not saying that as some kind of praise towards Trump - but, rather, as somewhat of a fact of the matter. He was simply too much of a bully to try to go up against, I believe.

Today, though, there's Biden inte White House, which I don't understand at all. Why couldn't the progressives in the USA have voted Hillary Clinton, Kamal Harris or Bernie Sanders into office, instead? I mean, Biden is barely conscious when he's talk to the press.