Venting Everywhere I go, suicide prevention propaganda follows

[Midnight-rain]

I'm so tired of seeing it. I'll be reading articles on people who successfully caught the bus hoping to find more info on their method but instead be force fed the same copy and pasted banter of, "If you or someone you know is contemplating suicide call 1-800-273-8255." It gets me irrationally angry and makes me feel worse.

I can't escape it either. I'll be looking through some unrelated thread and then boom! Sucker punched with the generic, "Stay strong! Don't do it!" Or "It's not worth it!" I scroll past it every time but each day it gets more and more tempting to angrily respond. Why is it so hard for people to understand that I refuse to play a rigged game? These anti-choice messages taunt me and unnecessarily remind me that I can't ctb yet.

I'm not calling any number. Too many negative anecdotes from others for me to unironically give it a shot. I don't want to be involuntarily commited. Plus I already made up my mind: I will ctb, it's just a matter of when. But the isolation of my decision is killing me. I wish suicide was socially acceptable.

I'm just so thankful this forum exists. Softens the loneliness a bit and makes me feel like part of a community, even if I mostly tend to lurk.

 

[Crusader]

Governments do not want too many of their slaves to die. They need us to work and pay taxes to finance their insane politics.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Bro even the freaking Snyder Cut of the Justice League movie is filled with anti-suicide billboards and messages.

though I guess it makes sense since Zack Snyder's daughter committing suicide was the reason he had to abruptly hand the movie over to someone else and thus there needed to be a Snyder cut in the first place....

 

[Midnight-rain]

Governments do not want too many of their slaves to die. They need us to work and pay taxes to finance their insane politics.

Haha ain't that the truth. "Noooo don't kill yourself! We can leech you for all you're worth! You're no use to us if you're dead!"

 

[EmbraceOfTheVoid]

They need to change the name from suicide prevention to suicide fuel because that's essentially all that empty words and imprisonment will accomplish. Their campaign is so effective that even after all of the billions of dollars wasted; the suicide rate is still rising exponentially. Anyone who actually believes that this propaganda genuinely helps someone who is truly suicidal is a clown.

 

[justanotherstar]

Yes I hear you, the suicide propaganda fuels my will to ctb too. And if one more person tells me "it's okay not to be okay" I might take up homicide lol

 

[LunarPyotr]

Yeah but this is nothing new to me.
I see this crap everywhere but what I find kinda funny, is that the World Wide Web is accessible for everyone in the world but why do those sites only list the US number for the suicide prevention hotline? XD
I mean, sure.. I was able to download CorePhone app and get a virtual NYC phone number in order to call this hotline but nowadays, since app stores have stricter rules, they should at least take the effort and post a list of all the numbers if they would really care about that : P

That's basically one of my many problems with the pro-life junk on this planet.
Maybe there exist some sort of life in this universe, which doesn't act so stupidly, when it comes to the whole suicide topic, lol

if there is any life out there it's probably super artificial intelligence

are you talking about the google and apple app stores or have you seen the alternatives?

https://xtremedroid.com/play-store-alternatives/

Nah, it was on play store and apple app store.

This app used to be sort-of free and it was working really good till it got taken offline for some reason.
You basically paid 1.40usd for the first registration and could purchase data plans, SMS/Call packages and even register it as a E-SIM if your device supported it.
I used this app to communicate with people in the US, used the v-number for Telegram, QQ and ICQ and even sometimes I used it for buying stuff from US.

Luckily, the owners were not such a-holes and refounded everyone the money in form of an virtual prepaid credit card, which was even working for stuff like Amazon JP and Amazon DE purchases

 

[JustAMatterOfTime]

I prefer Nike's slogan.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

I saw this mural the other day that said "mental health matters, it's okay to not be okay."

I wonder if any of the people who make these statements have actually been "not okay" for longer than a few weeks or months. Do they know what it is like to spend nearly your whole life suicidal, and how useless any mental health services are at dealing with non temporary problems?

I see this shit on youtube comments all the time when an artist has passed away from ctb. One of my favorite musician's songs have been plastered with the ctb prevention platitudes, completely tone deaf to the suffering he went through.

His music and their messaging juxtaposes so much.

 

[EmbraceOfTheVoid]

I saw this mural the other day that said "mental health matters, it's okay to not be okay."

I wonder if any of the people who make these statements have actually been "not okay" for longer than a few weeks or months. Do they know what it is like to spend nearly your whole life suicidal, and how useless any mental health services are at dealing with non temporary problems?

I see this shit on youtube comments all the time when an artist has passed away from ctb. One of my favorite musician's songs have been plastered with the ctb prevention platitudes, completely tone deaf to the suffering he went through.

His music and their messaging juxtaposes so much.

I've seen the same thing on some of Chester Bennington's music videos. Half of his music from the past two decades were a suicide note and there is so much naively optimistic nonsense on there about how you can magically pull through your situation.

It's literally just regular people with regular problems making these comments acting like they have some special insight into life. I also feel compelled to take up homicide like @justanotherstar to cull these normie bubble idiots.

 

[Mentalmick]

Yes I hear you, the suicide propaganda fuels my will to ctb too. And if one more person tells me "it's okay not to be okay" I might take up homicide lol

Or when you tell someone you're not normal, they reply "what's normal". I mean, what are they trying to say here, that wanting to die because existing is more painful is normal? No, they are not normal thoughts.

 

[grungeCat]

Exactly, I would add something more. Whenever I try to argue with these 'bright' statements out of this forum anti-choicers immadiately threatens me that they would call police if I want to ctb. Like I was some kind of crimnal or sth. I don't have to mention that potential police visitation is incredibly stressful and annoying.

 

[justanotherstar]

Or when you tell someone you're not normal, they reply "what's normal". I mean, what are they trying to say here, that wanting to die because existing is more painful is normal? No, they are not normal thoughts.

Yes exactly! The "normal" conversation can join the list of things that make me consider homicide

 

[WornOutLife]

I'm really thankful SS exists too.
I tried to live without this community a few days ago and I just can't. Too many pro-life bullsh*t around. Not even reddit is a decent place anymore.

To make matters worse, my psych disappointed me and said the words "life is precious".

 

[Midnight-rain]

Yes I hear you, the suicide propaganda fuels my will to ctb too. And if one more person tells me "it's okay not to be okay" I might take up homicide lol

That'll make them do a 180 real quick! Thousands of people will say they're glad you ctb because you killed others beforehand. Haha the idea is appealing to me too I won't lie. I'd much prefer to have strangers cursing my name with a frown than all this boo-hoo "oh if only they'd have gotten help!"

They need to change the name from suicide prevention to suicide fuel because that's essentially all that empty words and imprisonment will accomplish. Their campaign is so effective that even after all of the billions of dollars wasted; the suicide rate is still rising exponentially. Anyone who actually believes that this propaganda genuinely helps someone who is truly suicidal is a clown.

I once attended an anti-suicide event out of curiosity and at some point one of the speakers had us chant, "You matter!" Over and over. It was some of the fakest shit I've ever witnessed.

 

[it's_all_a_game]

Yeah, and what's worse is that whenever you opine a valid reason for suicide (you're tired of struggling to survive, most people are jerks to you, etc.) everyone just shouts you down or ignores you. It's like thought-terminating cliches are all you get when it comes to ctb.

 

[Deathbydemo]

What's funny, and slightly hypocritical, is those that encourage us to live do NOTHING to make living more bearable. Yeah suicide propaganda everywhere, don't spin your "it's gonna get better" bullshit when you have zero capability of knowing that.

 

[Celerity]

The fact that the normies have to say it so often just goes to show thin the line is between us and them. Lots of normies running around with thin AF excuses for not catching the bus.

 

[lofticries]

Anyone remember the summer of 2017 in which heavy by linkin park (rip chester) and logic's 1-800 song played continuously on the radio.

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[LakatosDiogenesz]

Maybe it works for otherwise happy people who are desperate because "my girlfriend left me" or "my xbox broke". Situations where those empty platitudes do hold some truth and the thought of suicide is mostly an impulsive decision.

Anyone remember the summer of 2017 in which heavy by linkin park (rip chester) and logic's 1-800 song played continuously on the radio.

Oh yeah. There was a tweet that went "i wanted to kms but then logic wrote that song and made suicide look corny af".

 

[LiminalFantasies]

Everyone around me does not want me to ctb, including my family, my psycologist and psychiatrist. For the professionals, they are trying to keep me alive. My psycologist says if I tell her anything about me having thoughts of ctb, she will have to call my parents and encourage them to a psychiatric hospital if the situation gets quite bad.

As for my family, my mom and dad thinks of suicide as the worst mistake that one can do. Like they believe the act of ctb is something idiotic and "not normal". Also wherever I feel having a bad day, my mom tries to say things like "Life is beautiful", "Appreciate your life, I'm the one who gave birth to you", "Thank God you have a good family, they are other people who are living worse than us and yet they live happily despite the situations they're in" and so on...

Thinking all of that, makes me think as if they're trying to make me alive despite having a really strong desire to ctb... Feels like they're trying me to keep me alive, making me to force to live and that making an action like that is forbidden to their eyes. Like, why I'm still here, thinking of "why I'm not allowed to die?".

 

[the_final_countdown]

It's unfortunate there are no euthanasia centers.

So many people in terrible situations could end their misery.

I don't think there will ever be euthanasia clinics for people not terminally ill though. At least, not easily accessible ones.

Let's say an 18 year old male paraplegic wants to end their life, because they're in constant pain, can't start a family, can't functionally hold most jobs, and spends the days trying to fall asleep.

They go into a clinic, apply for euthanasia to stop their suffering, and when the family gets the letter in the mail that their only son killed himself at Suicide Inc, they'll likely spend the rest of their lives lobbying for legislation against euthanasia clinics.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

I'm so tired of seeing it. I'll be reading articles on people who successfully caught the bus hoping to find more info on their method but instead be force fed the same copy and pasted banter of, "If you or someone you know is contemplating suicide call 1-800-273-8255." It gets me irrationally angry and makes me feel worse.

They don't want us to leave this prison planet before they do. Factories in China installing nets so their workers would stop jumping to their deaths is a microcosm of how society views suicide. It must be prevented at all costs. Human lives are a valuable resource to society. Until automation and AI can replace all the workers they need our slave labor.

 

[FuneralCry]

Suicide prevention is just prolonging suffering. The society tries to force people to live, but we have a right to exit this world at a time of our choosing, it is our life, our decision after all. It frustrates me, the idea that society holds that suicide must be prevented in every single case, even if the person is in unbearable pain. It is up to the individual to decide whether their life is worth living. In many cases wanting suicide can be perfectly rational, for me it is the only thing that makes sense. Suicide prevention does not attempt to deal with what causes people to be suicidal in the first place, so it will not reduce suicide rates. The campaigns are just platitudes.

 

[Brayu]

I'm so tired of seeing it. I'll be reading articles on people who successfully caught the bus hoping to find more info on their method but instead be force fed the same copy and pasted banter of, "If you or someone you know is contemplating suicide call 1-800-273-8255." It gets me irrationally angry and makes me feel worse.

I can't escape it either. I'll be looking through some unrelated thread and then boom! Sucker punched with the generic, "Stay strong! Don't do it!" Or "It's not worth it!" I scroll past it every time but each day it gets more and more tempting to angrily respond. Why is it so hard for people to understand that I refuse to play a rigged game? These anti-choice messages taunt me and unnecessarily remind me that I can't ctb yet.

I'm not calling any number. Too many negative anecdotes from others for me to unironically give it a shot. I don't want to be involuntarily commited. Plus I already made up my mind: I will ctb, it's just a matter of when. But the isolation of my decision is killing me. I wish suicide was socially acceptable.

I'm just so thankful this forum exists. Softens the loneliness a bit and makes me feel like part of a community, even if I mostly tend to lurk.

Now that you mention it, it gets to be funny... Every time I strongly think about CTB people come asking me if suicides will go to hell (or asking or affirming), comparing them to terrorists or any other evil character.

That's the bad part about being too related to the religious institution.

 

[whywhywhy]

They don't want us to leave this prison planet before they do. Factories in China installing nets so their workers would stop jumping to their deaths is a microcosm of how society views suicide. It must be prevented at all costs. Human lives are a valuable resource to society. Until automation and AI can replace all the workers they need our slave labor.

I think that suicide must be prevented at the workplace and public transport because it can hinder everyone elses daily lives.

Having said society should give peaceful means to die for people with chronic depression. Its a pretty joke that death row inmates are given a peaceful death while here the more resourceful have to literally smuggle it and the less resourceful have to choose painful ways to die

 

[Rogue Proxy]

Its a pretty joke that death row inmates are given a peaceful death while here the more resourceful have to literally smuggle it and the less resourceful have to choose painful ways to die

Actually, lethal injection causes severe agony and psychological distress to the majority of executed inmates, especially given how the personnel aren't professionally trained to properly administer the three drugs. Doctors and nurses aren't allowed to perform lethal injections due to the execution conflicting with the Hippocratic oath of "First, do no harm". Which is ironic considering that prolonging suffering causes prodigious harm compared to properly administrating painless euthanasia.

 

[Hurt]

 

[Zzzzz]

They do everything they can to force people to stay alive, yet out of the same mouth preach and preach about how precious freedom and choice are. Freedom my ass. Nobody who supports forcing people to live believes in freedom. The right to live and die are the most basic human rights, and we don't have them. Pro-lifers believe in servitude,not freedom.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Finally a truthful video. i pasted some some of the comments to that video before they take it down. i agree with the content of the video and all of the comments. Especially toward the end he says some important things imo.


Alyssa Michelle
Alyssa Michelle
2 years ago (edited)
I'm a nurse. Everyday I have witnessed people being kept alive and going through hell. They have no friends, no family, no homes, no functions, and they weep and suffer and beg for death. By law they have to lie there and waste away and when they do pass, they die horrible deaths. But a dog with the same problems receives a humane exit. This society is fucked. "It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society".
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scarytobealive
scarytobealive
4 years ago
Much respect for your opinion. It is refreshing to hear honest talking about such an important subject matter. Thanks for sharing.
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Say No More, Do No More
Say No More, Do No More
2 years ago (edited)
I have always thought it's weird people have the nerve to think they can decide for someone else they should live until their 80's. Feeling miserable. I think it's more selfish to want people to stick around because it makes them sad instead of letting them go.
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SIMONE
SIMONE
3 years ago
We are living on a prison planet, so unfortunately society wins on this one. Just let people die when they are ready. Life can be so painful and death can be the release. My ex killed him self a few months ago. I was so angry for months. Now, I understand that his emotional pain was unbearable. Thank you for this video.
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Arbaab Sheytaan
Arbaab Sheytaan
2 years ago
"Life is like animal porn, it's not for everyone"

- Doug Stanhope
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voyds
voyds
3 years ago
u kno when you're playing a game and after a while u get bored of constantly having to repeat certain missions, and failing again and again, even tho u succeeded sometimes, you already know how the game will end and its just not fun anymore, its not worth playing. and so u just quit the game and go to sleep, thats how i feel about life and i wish it was as easy to pull the plug irl as it is in game. thank you for making this video, you truly explained exactly what ive been thinking for years. its so refreshing to finally hear it from someone else.
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Gripes Plague
Gripes Plague
2 years ago
The worst thing, I ever felt in my life was "being forced to live".
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sami silverman
sami silverman
1 year ago
society needs to understand
for some people it's relief not suicide
for some people it's suffering not living
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Indol
Indol
2 years ago
this is the first rational logical video I have seen on suicide rights ever. Thank you for not lying and sugarcoating the truth
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Aly Jiselle
Aly Jiselle
3 years ago (edited)
I applaud you for sharing this. This is brutally honest in a good way-- and as someone dealing with suicidal ideation, it's the most validating video I've come across yet.
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Chuy83
Chuy83
3 years ago
Suicide prevention is not only pro suffering, they inflict more suffering. They're cynical people.
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