Euthanasia

[divinemistress36]

If euthanasia was available for all who wanted to ctb then what percentage of people do you think would use it?

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Way less than 1%. Most people don't want to kill themselves.

 

[sserafim]

Probably not a lot

 

[divinemistress36]

We are such a rare breed

 

[Scythe]

If there's an evaluation process I think not a lot, since we are a minority despite the world going to shit. Suppose seriously considering death is just too extreme for most. Otherwise this forum wouldn't get as much hate as it does. But if euthanasia was avaliable to impulse suicidals then probably a lot more people would be dead.

 

[Gonnerr]

Me 100% sure but most people like their life. So less than 5%.

 

[divinemistress36]

5% of 8 billion people is a lot though

 

[rozeske]

Not a lot. Suicidal people are very less percentage in the general population to bigin with. Then from that percentage a significant amount would blackout once they have a reliable peaceful way out at hand, with the whole "prison becomes your home if you have the keys" thing.

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

If euthanasia was available for all who wanted to ctb then what percentage of people do you think would use it?

Euthanasia in Belgium is legal (even with a mental disorder) and every year figures rise. Only during COVID and during a court case about euthanasia there were less cases of euthanasia.

I think that if there were a pill of Drion, freely to be bought in a pharmacy, figures would rise significantly. Hell, I would buy it! Maybe it would lay in a closet for a while, but in the end I would definitely take it.

Not a lot. Suicidal people are very less percentage in the general population to bigin with. Then from that percentage a significant amount would blackout once they have a reliable peaceful way out at hand, with the whole "prison becomes your home if you have the keys" thing.

There are a lot of lonely, old people out there. They're just waiting to die, just like my grandfather (98yo). I'm sure they would take Drion's pill if it were available.

 

[Doemu]

I don't think to much, cause the way of thinking of the society will ever be wich that allow them to survive. Anyway i wouldn't use it, i need to kill my self by my own hand.

 

[UKscotty]

Not many, there are already plenty of ways to kill ourselves.

Less that 0.1% probably.

 

[FuneralCry]

Most probably as existence is very undesirable. It'd be such a relief for people having the option to die peacefully in a guaranteed way with no fears or risks of trying to die going wrong and leading to way more suffering as a result.
To me it'd be insane to want to decay from age in this cruel and meaningless existence where there is no limit as to how much one can suffer. I see suicide as rational to escape from and prevent suffering so of course I believe many would choose to stop existing on their own terms, ceasing to exist solves everything after all and brings peace from the burden of existing as a human.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

They made assisted suicide a crime

They put Dr Kevorkian in prison for assisting old people in pain with suicide

The Thanatron, Jack Kevorkian's Death Machine

Jack Kevorkian, the defrocked doc sent to jail after helping people kill themselves, was released today after serving 8 years of his original 10-25 year sentence for murder. One of the conditions of parole, naturally enough, is refraining from assisting suicides. “Dr. Death,” as he is called by...

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If they removed their oppressive laws making assisting suicide a crime many people would use those services.

Millions of people are suffering and with no way out. These would use assisted suicide services. Then when others hear about it use will grow as the lies will start to be exposed . No we don't have to put up with suffering, pain, oppression , problems, diseases and much less unbearable constant long lasting pain, nor old age nor anything in this prison hell

 

[aGoodDayToDie]

In Belgium about 2500 people get euthanised every year, out of 11 million people. So given lifespan of about 80 years, that's just under 2% of the population.

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

In Belgium about 2500 people get euthanised every year, out of 11 million people. So given lifespan of about 80 years, that's just under 2% of the population.

Almost 3.000 in 2022 with a total population of about 11,7 million. That's about 0,026%. But it is 10% more than the year before.

Also, comparing to the total population is wrong imho. Almost 70% of the people who made the choice were older than 70. I don't see toddlers taking Drion's pill (unless by accident :-). BTW There were no cases with minors in 2022.

Source: vrt.be

And apparently, you don't have to have Belgian nationality to ask for euthanasia (there are rules however).

But I admit I'm probably projecting in thinking 'a lot' of people would use Drion's pill if such a thing were freely available. There's no way to tell atm.

 

[Alex Fermentopathy]

Let's say about relatively young people. Even if that will be a lot of them at first, then year after year the percentage will decline due to natural selection.

 

[sserafim]

5% of 8 billion people is a lot though

I think like less than 1% of 8 billion people. Most people seem to love life and not want to die. They're grateful for their life and that they had the chance to experience it. Even if their life sucks, life has them under Stockholm Syndrome. People usually want to keep living, they're scared of death and dying. We're the abnormal and strange ones here…

 

[divinemistress36]

I think like less than 1% of 8 billion people. Most people seem to love life and not want to die. They're grateful for their life and that they had the chance to experience it. Even if their life sucks, life has them under Stockholm Syndrome. People usually want to keep living, they're scared of death and dying. We're the abnormal and strange ones here…

I definitely feel like an alien

 

[sserafim]

I definitely feel like an alien

I feel like one too

 

[divinemistress36]

I feel like one too

I wake up everyday and think everything everyone does is pointless

 

[sserafim]

I wake up everyday and think everything everyone does is pointless

Same. Life is so meaningless, nothing matters in the end. I just think it's not fair that we were brought into this world without a say in it

 

[divinemistress36]

Same. Life is so meaningless, nothing matters in the end. I just think it's not fair that we were brought into this world without a say in it

I agree. I think that's why we have looked to exploring spirituality

 

[Linda]

Not a lot of young people. But probably a much larger percentage of older people. Partly that's because they know they haven't got long left whatever happens, partly because many will know that they have achieved as much as they can hope to achieve so why hang around, and partly because the death of a partner and the resulting loneliness can be hard to handle. I think that even those who would never have considered suicide when they were young come to see that life is nothing much to lose.

Cast a cold eye
On life, on death.
Horseman, pass by!

 

[Linda]

I feel like one too

I think I know what you mean, though my take on it is a bit different. In the summer months I sometimes watch the ants in front of my house, thousands of them scurrying along their trails, intent on their own business, and not thinking much as they do it. I'm a detached observer, not hostile to them, but indifferent. Their business has nothing to do with me. Then I realise that I often feel the same way about humanity: I'm standing on the outside, watching humans go about their business, but feeling detached from it all. What has it got to do with me?

I don't have anything against humans. Some of my best friends are humans. But the species is over-rated.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Me

 

[divinemistress36]

I think I know what you mean, though my take on it is a bit different. In the summer months I sometimes watch the ants in front of my house, thousands of them scurrying along their trails, intent on their own business, and not thinking much as they do it. I'm a detached observer, not hostile to them, but indifferent. Their business has nothing to do with me. Then I realise that I often feel the same way about humanity: I'm standing on the outside, watching humans go about their business, but feeling detached from it all. What has it got to do with me?

I don't have anything against humans. Some of my best friends are humans. But the species is over-rated.

Nature and animals are incredible. People not so much

 

[barelybetter]

The truth is, we as suicidal people aren't normal. Obv suicide numbers would go up if it was way easier but it wouldn't be something crazy.

 

[sserafim]

I think I know what you mean, though my take on it is a bit different. In the summer months I sometimes watch the ants in front of my house, thousands of them scurrying along their trails, intent on their own business, and not thinking much as they do it. I'm a detached observer, not hostile to them, but indifferent. Their business has nothing to do with me. Then I realise that I often feel the same way about humanity: I'm standing on the outside, watching humans go about their business, but feeling detached from it all. What has it got to do with me?

I don't have anything against humans. Some of my best friends are humans. But the species is over-rated.

I feel detached from humanity as well. It's like I'm on the outside looking in. I feel like an observer of life rather than a participant in it. I don't even feel human, I feel like an alien on this earth. It's just a feeling of fundamentally not belonging.

 

[divinemistress36]

I feel detached from humanity as well. It's like I'm on the outside looking in. I feel like an observer of life rather than a participant in it. I don't even feel human, I feel like an alien on this earth. It's just a feeling of fundamentally not belonging.

Depersonalization . I get this a lot

 

[sserafim]

Depersonalization . I get this a lot

I don't think it's depersonalization but rather the fact that I just don't fit in with the human race. It's like I'm not even a real human. I'm an untermensch due to ASD…