Euthanasia laws are cruel

[No_more]

I'm suffering so much. I'm trapped in life. I'm too scared to ctb but I'm scared of living too. I'm stuck in this horrible limbo.
I wish I could go to a clinic and have euthanasia done properly. It's cruel forcing people to live. Why does it have to be like this?

 

[Bct]

It's cruel to force people to live when their life qualities are horrible. We want to die so much to escape from this cruel reality.

 

[Chiyuki99]

I feel you.
I am scared of killing myself because of religious belief and I wish I could just go to a facility where someone could do it for me, fast and painlessly.

 

[profoundexperience]

Why does it have to be like this?

Mainly due to other people's beliefs/superstitions/cultural "programming". Many of which appear neither to be true nor even to be carefully considered.

E.g., Life is a "good thing". (Imho, this sentence is humankind's "primary/true/real religion"... Believing this is required to build any other religion upon.). Also, Death is a "bad thing". (Of course absolutely nobody has personal, first-hand experience to honestly testify to this... so this is a lie = we just can't/don't know the truth of death = only theories usually based in selfishness)

 

[Anonymoussn]

Euthanasia is a slippery slope, because if you allow anyone to do it, you risk people who are temporarily going through grief committing suicide, who could otherwise have got help and turned their lives around.

It's starting to become more accepted in many parts of the world, but it needs careful application, so that there is a balance between allowing people to end their suffering, whilst also not ending the lives of those who still can be helped.

I think we'll get there eventually, but it's just going to take more time.

 

[disabledlife]

Euthanasia is a slippery slope, because if you allow anyone to do it, you risk people who are temporarily going through grief committing suicide, who could otherwise have got help and turned their lives around.

It's starting to become more accepted in many parts of the world, but it needs careful application, so that there is a balance between allowing people to end their suffering, whilst also not ending the lives of those who still can be helped.

I think we'll get there eventually, but it's just going to take more time.

However, one does not have to live even if one can still be helped.

Others should always propose to inform someone who wants ctb that there are other solutions or AIDS to continue living.

However, it is up to the interested person to always have the choice between living or leaving, otherwise in this case, the mere fact of having possible helpers would be a reason to hold us to life.

 

[Anonymoussn]

However, one does not have to live even if one can still be helped.

Others should always propose to inform someone who wants ctb that there are other solutions or AIDS to continue living.

However, it is up to the interested person to always have the choice between living or leaving, otherwise in this case, the mere fact of having possible helpers would be a reason to hold us to life.

I agree. But I think that there are vulnerable people, who might make rash decisions if euthanasia was available to everyone.

There are people who came close to ending their lives, but for whatever reason didnt and then ended up really happy. And I think that it would be sad if these people had missed the chance to have happy lives and had been euthanised. Which I think is part of the reason euthanasia is a controversial subject

 

[Deleted member 19276]

They are forcing people to stay so they get more tax payers I assume, at least my 5 bucks bet on it.
It should be legal and it should be available for people.
Forcing someone to live with a trauma, personal pain or let alone an illness like what most people here may or may not have, it's truly a degradation.
Not just for the people forcing you to go through suffering, but to the human race as a whole.

 

[profoundexperience]

Euthanasia is a slippery slope, because if you allow anyone to do it, you risk people who are temporarily going through grief committing suicide, who could otherwise have got help and turned their lives around. ... there is a balance between allowing people to end their suffering, whilst also not ending the lives of those who still can be helped.

However, one does not have to live even if one can still be helped. ... However, it is up to the interested person to always have the choice between living or leaving, otherwise in this case, the mere fact of having possible helpers would be a reason to hold us to life.

Very well said, both of you!

Sadly, it seems unavoidable (at least for now) that there be some kind of "judge/jury" who "determines" whether a requested, "legal" suicide is "proper'"/"justified". And, of course no judge is infallible... in fact, many will be biased when it comes to ctb = and the government has certainly convicted & sentenced many innocent (proven afterwards) people to death. Valid suicide requests will always get denied this way.

Somehow could there be a system where absolutely no factual justifications/explanations are required whatsoever...? I.e., if I have to "prove" to the government/society I "deserve" a "permit" to die... then who exactly "owns" my life? If I can't freely choose for something as fundamental and intimate as my own life, it's certainly not me.

Perhaps a time-only system, based on multiple requests spread over time (days/weeks/months?)? E.g., if I request to die... once per week over a period of 3 weeks = request/"permit" granted, no questions asked! I can dream, can't I?

 

[profoundexperience]

They are forcing people to stay so they get more tax payers I assume, at least my 5 bucks bet on it.

A winning bet to be sure! Just look at China and it's revocation of it's one-child policy: They did that because they realized they wouldn't have enough young people to support the elderly/economy. Governments literally need babies to keep the economy/society "healthy"! The despicable selfishness we human beings often exhibit!

For any given life, there are all kinds of "interested parties" who "benefit" from it's continuance. This primarily isn't an issue of caring and love, but of ignorant, unacknowledged selfishness.