Discussion Emotional Impact for those who discover someone hanging

[ManWithNoName]

In the many discussions on this forum about ctb via train there is a lot of criticism of this method citing the emotional impact it is has on the train conductor—as well the vivid horror of what happens to the body - shredded, bloodly & messy.

Ctb via hanging does not seem to be met with the same outcry, and I'm curious.

I've seen actual police recovery videos of those who hung themselves and it is equally as nasty—fuckin disgusting really. The bodies are extremely bloated, the heads are completely blackened and look inflated 4 or 5 times bigger than normal—tons of piss, excrement and other body fluids on the floor.

Eventually someone has to clean all this shit up. How than can a cbt hanging not be considered equally as traumatic for those who find the body?

 

[Rachel74]

My mom found her Dad hanging and that impact changed her life, she was only 14. That's why she couldn't get my bipolar and couldn't support me after every overdose as she was frightened.

 

[Stan]

In the many discussions on this forum about ctb via train there is a lot of criticism of this method citing the emotional impact it is has on the train conductor—as well the vivid horror of what happens to the body - shredded, bloodly & messy.

Ctb via hanging does not seem to be met with the same outcry, and I'm curious.

I've seen actual police recovery videos of those who hung themselves and it is equally as nasty—fuckin disgusting really. The bodies are extremely bloated, the heads are completely blackened and look inflated 4 or 5 times bigger than normal—tons of piss, excrement and other body fluids on the floor.

Eventually someone has to clean all this shit up. How than can a cbt hanging not be considered equally as traumatic for those who find the body?

The point of the train is more about the driver. They have become part of the act of death, regardless of whether it was their fault or not, the shock and stress can be huge.

Train driver killed himself after witnessing a death on shift

Scott Walker struggled to cope after his train struck a suicidal person, inquest hears

www.theguardian.com

The discovery of a loved ones body is also extremely distressing. I would not want any family or friends to find me, luckily I am in the position that they won't.

Which is why I always say to people who go to hotels to cbt to do it in the bathroom with the door closed and a notice outside telling housekeeping not to come in and call the police. Why should they be traumatised?

But the state of the bodies you mention looks like they have been decomposing for a while.

 

[Rachel74]

The train driver is involving someone else in your death and similar if you hang yourself. Someone as to cut you down.

 

[BPD_LE]

This is a really good point. It depends on how long the body has been hanging there, but I guess either way it's not nice. I've planned for the police to find my body. I have an issue with the police here so I'm not bothered how they would feel. They'll rally round like they always do. I wouldn't be happy knowing a member of the public might find my body.

 

[Rachel74]

This is a really good point. It depends on how long the body has been hanging there, but I guess either way it's not nice. I've planned for the police to find my body. I have an issue with the police here so I'm not bothered how they would feel. They'll rally round like they always do. I wouldn't be happy knowing a member of the public might find my body.

I think the police here have seen more than their fair share of bodies it's the new constable on the beat who hasn't and throws up and faints. Always remember the start of Quincy when a Dr does that.

 

[ManWithNoName]

The point of the train is more about the driver. They have become part of the act of death, regardless of whether it was their fault or not, the shock and stress can be huge.

Train driver killed himself after witnessing a death on shift

Scott Walker struggled to cope after his train struck a suicidal person, inquest hears

www.theguardian.com

The discovery of a loved ones body is also extremely distressing. I would not want any family or friends to find me, luckily I am in the position that they won't.

Which is why I always say to people who go to hotels to cbt to do it in the bathroom with the door closed and a notice outside telling housekeeping not to come in and call the police. Why should they be traumatised?

But the state of the bodies you mention looks like they have been decomposing for a while.

How long does it take (≈ approximately) after death for a hanging body to start getting gross?

 

[Stan]

How long does it take (≈ approximately) after death for a hanging body to start getting gross?

The Stages Of Human Decomposition [Updated June 2022] | Aftermath Services

www.aftermath.com

 

[BPD_LE]

I think the police here have seen more than their fair share of bodies it's the new constable on the beat who hasn't and throws up and faints. Always remember the start of Quincy when a Dr does that.

It's probably a right of passage or something. First dead body. They'll all go down the pub to celebrate with the rookie.

 

[DoNotLet2]

Ok I am very unempathetic. People never cared about me. Maybe not totally but if they ever cared it was for a short time. Why would I care about them? You're the very first empathetic community I've ever met. I don't want to cause you trauma, but I don't care about other people. Well I am a bad person.
I mean even if the hanging body was clean and fragrant it still would be traumatic to find. That's my heartless opinion

 

[ManWithNoName]

The Stages Of Human Decomposition [Updated June 2022] | Aftermath Services

www.aftermath.com

Thanks for posting—looks rather complete too.

 

[Let'sgetoutofHERE]

This is a really good point. It depends on how long the body has been hanging there, but I guess either way it's not nice. I've planned for the police to find my body. I have an issue with the police here so I'm not bothered how they would feel. They'll rally round like they always do. I wouldn't be happy knowing a member of the public might find my body.

Why is hanging your preferred method? Just curious

 

[BPD_LE]

Ok I am very unempathetic. People never cared about me. Maybe not totally but if they ever cared it was for a short time. Why would I care about them?

I get this. Sometimes I do think fuck you all (the world, not here) none of you give a shit or have reached out to help me. You've left me to rot. You can clear up the aftermath. I don't think you're a 'bad' person for this.

Why is hanging your preferred method? Just curious

Quick, cheap and very easy.

 

[Rachel74]

Ok I am very unempathetic. People never cared about me. Maybe not totally but if they ever cared it was for a short time. Why would I care about them? You're the very first empathetic community I've ever met. I don't want to cause you trauma, but I don't care about other people. Well I am a bad person.
I mean even if the hanging body was clean and fragrant it still would be traumatic to find. That's my heartless opinion

I totally get this too. Choose whatever is best for you. I'm a wuss so couldn't choose any of these.

 

[Soul]

Ok I am very unempathetic. People never cared about me. Maybe not totally but if they ever cared it was for a short time. Why would I care about them? You're the very first empathetic community I've ever met. I don't want to cause you trauma, but I don't care about other people. Well I am a bad person.
I mean even if the hanging body was clean and fragrant it still would be traumatic to find. That's my heartless opinion

We all want different things from our deaths, and all the methods express different things. Not giving a fuck whether my dead body traumatizes somebody doesn't make me a bad person. Some of us have had it up to here with our own distress being disregarded, and part of what hanging expresses is no, I'm not going to let you imagine I'm just asleep or anything sugarcoated like that.

 

[Roger]

How long does it take (≈ approximately) after death for a hanging body to start getting gross?

Depends on ambient temperature. When George Mallory's body was found on Everest in 1999, 75 years after his death, it could not be described as gross.

Maybe that's the answer - climb to 28,500 feet then chuck yourself off the Second Step.

Easy.

 

[BPD_LE]

Maybe that's the answer - climb to 28,500 feet then chuck yourself off the Second Step.

Trying to climb to 28,500 feet would finish me off in itself.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Depends on ambient temperature. When George Mallory's body was found on Everest in 1999, 75 years after his death, it could not be described as gross.

Maybe that's the answer - climb to 28,500 feet then chuck yourself off the Second Step.

Easy.

I seem to recall there is a video on youtube where they came across Mallory—major event among serious climbers.

Stan posted this link :

The Stages Of Human Decomposition [Updated June 2022] | Aftermath Services

www.aftermath.com

 

[DoNotLet2]

<3 Thanks :P
Oh yeah It's so relatable I would die too from climbing.

 

[Ky204]

I've witnessed both cases before.
I've seen someone jump onto the tracks as a metro was just arriving as well as found my moms body days after she had went though with partial hanging.
Both cases were probably some of the most disturbing things I've ever seen that will forever be ingrained in my mind.
But of course my moms was more scarring for obvious reasons.

 

[Wreck-it-Riley]

I used to work at a funeral home, and have seen jumpers, hangers, drownings, the lot. No matter what, you leak when you die.

Hanging has been my obsession. I have tried 4 times, and been cut down twice. When i was 6, i messed up the knot and spent a month in a hospital with bad rope burns. The next time i was quite overweight and broke the 2x4 i tied the rope to. That hurt, 10 seconds of choking and then a bused ass. When i was 17, I got saved because my Girlfriend at the time skipped school to stay home with me (i called in sick) and didnt tell me. So they where in the kitchen making soup and heard the chair tip over. She was hurt super bad, never spoke to me again. The last one, at 27, i tried when my roommate left for the weekend. I was supposed to visit another friend that afternoon, and they knew i was suicidal so they would have called a safety check. No body left for the roommate.

I have tried a few other ways too, but i always keep rope on hand. obsess over the feeling of different rope types a lot too. I think its just the best way to send a message? Like, its swinging there. not just slumped on the floor. you know the person is dead the second you see it.

 

[Let'sgetoutofHERE]

I used to work at a funeral home, and have seen jumpers, hangers, drownings, the lot. No matter what, you leak when you die.

Hanging has been my obsession. I have tried 4 times, and been cut down twice. When i was 6, i messed up the knot and spent a month in a hospital with bad rope burns. The next time i was quite overweight and broke the 2x4 i tied the rope to. That hurt, 10 seconds of choking and then a bused ass. When i was 17, I got saved because my Girlfriend at the time skipped school to stay home with me (i called in sick) and didnt tell me. So they where in the kitchen making soup and heard the chair tip over. She was hurt super bad, never spoke to me again. The last one, at 27, i tried when my roommate left for the weekend. I was supposed to visit another friend that afternoon, and they knew i was suicidal so they would have called a safety check. No body left for the roommate.

I have tried a few other ways too, but i always keep rope on hand. obsess over the feeling of different rope types a lot too. I think its just the best way to send a message? Like, its swinging there. not just slumped on the floor. you know the person is dead the second you see it.

Your first suicide attempt was when you were 6?? That is just heartbreaking

 

[Wreck-it-Riley]

I had been Suffering some horrible abuses at the time, and the foster family i was with were basically using me as free labor. I had been in scouts and knew the knot, and one of the biological kids told me how to do it properly (With a chair, tied to the right place in the basement, ect.) I got left home from "Real family" time and went for it. 6 year old me didn't know it would be suspicious to wear a scarf in the house. Spent a month in the hospital, zero visits. When i came out they put me in a different home again, and the other kids kept most of my stuff. The foster system in the early 90s was so, so bad.

 

[maka]

Hanging is pretty much my go to method, and honestly I feel like my nmom would just stand there and laugh. Then bring everyone else in the house to look at my digusting corpse. And then take pictures so she can send her friends. That's just the type of person she is. My sister commited suicide either before I was born or when I was a baby. I don't remember because she's only a step-sibling. My other sister died in the military when I was about 8 years old. My nmom has done nothing but mock both of them, laugh at their misery, and tell us that we'll end up like them. I could absolutely care less how "traumatized" that woman feels after she finds me. Maybe it takes seeing it for a third time before she realizes how sick she is.

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

The only real short term impact of hanging that bothers me is lividity, where gravity pulls the blood down since the heart isn't pumping anymore. It causes fingers and feet and sometimes parts of the face to turn almost black. Of course there's other physiological results of dying regardless of how you go.

 

[ManWithNoName]

The only real short term impact of hanging that bothers me is lividity, where gravity pulls the blood down since the heart isn't pumping anymore. It causes fingers and feet and sometimes parts of the face to turn almost black. Of course there's other physiological results of dying regardless of how you go.

That's what I'm trying to determine with hanging - I've seen some pretty nasty police forensic videos of cadavers bloated and discolored - I'm trying figure out if these happen immediately after hanging, or occur after extended time.