How Dutch Law Got a Little Too Comfortable With Euthanasia
The story of a 17-year-old’s assisted death wasn’t real—but it could have been.www.theatlantic.com
The nice thing about the Dutch euthanasia system and law is that they respect your will and the relationship with your doctor. So many people were helped dying with dignity. Why is it so hard for other countries to understand. Let people die with dignity.
the point is mental ilnesses are not like physical in the sense that a doctor is never able to guarantee you have that disease even you that got approved for euthanasia could aswell be bullshiting them and they would never be correct in their choices. This is one reason they dont make it legal. Everyone would jump claiming a mental disorder , everyone then will apply for euthanasia. This is done for moral reasons mostly they dont want people in their first missfortune like loosing their job girlfriend to go and die. Im with the dutch though
Good points and yes with mental illnesses and psychological suffering, it is very difficult to "objectively" measure the amount of suffering by the doctor. Of course, I fully agree with you that people should have the option to CTB and end their suffering if they are suffering a lot, be it physically and/or psychologically. Psychological damage is still damage at the end of the day, and people deserve to be free of suffering regardless of how bad it is. I don't really like the gatekeeping of the medical industry, but I suppose they have to have a baseline and start somewhere. After that, then work from that baseline (either to raise or lower it - appropriately).
indeed. Something i thinked 5 years before when suicide thoughts started is that someone else will never understand what you feel . This is both true but false....People who are successful good people can understand maybe not feel like you but i think maybe they have been in you position once or twice who knows. Something sad i noticed and realised a suicidal person wont give a shit for another suicidal person to actually go help him. Unless there is something to win there like a cbt partner with more efficient methords or a sex partner maybe? Its true that suicidal people for that period they are the most numb motherfkers out there... Them and criminals. Wouldnt give a damn if you are going through the same with him. This doesnt go to say that they wouldnt need a friend. But to provide a gun or something to someone who cant own one and go with this method unless its next door they wouldnt do it . This goes for others who are going their suicidal days to understand we are becoming a little scary careless.... If you know your pain and you are somehow 100% someone else in the same country is going through the same and would love to have instead of a cbt partner a friend to lend him a handgun wouldnt you go there and share your easy method? In this case its yes and no usually negative...As for me reasons would be the effort of travelling , maybe i wouldnt need a cbt partner , or wanting to do actual cbt myself fast. If i needed a friend to share moments id go but this shows my motives are not purely to help the others suffering..... When i realised this concept one day i got really scared and dissapointed. I knew that i pushed away the friends i had by not interacting with them for a long period of time , but i didnt know in all this hell im going through i wouldnt actually help another guy end his life with my gun just for being bored and not motivated enough to travel to that city/country
what you dont understand is im not saying you will lie about your history or some therapies you went do . Therapies and past trauma happens to all posibbly. Im saying that is very easy to bullshit your way through these kind of things. Its not a murder investigation that proof can be found and you can be sentenced. Its something hidden inside you and the outside appearence can be aswell be a role tha patient takes and goes through therapys and different doctors claiming something he maybe doesnt have. You cant change my mind on this. Answers like where we came from where we going or what is going on EXACTLY in a patients mind cant be proven by a regular human mind with complete accuracy. So either way this law of euthanasia cant be 100% accurate in its appliance. Not by common minds. That doesnt mean i dont approve but past records of what you might have made doctors believe after a long study of that specific disorder cant be called accurate or official results. You can even go play catatonic or just say i hear and see things and you are officially schizophrenic. Can the doctor verify the things you heard and saw? Or can he call you a liar ? Both no....
