Method Dumb Q: What's the issue with inert gases?

[DyingToDie123]

It doesn't seem common here even though it seems more peaceful than hanging etc. Is it hard to get? Hard to put together? I'm not super crafty which worries me re: exit bags. I'm also paranoid after my SN order got axed. :(

 

[Suicidebydeath]

People are concerned with the complexity, I think it probably feels a little less natural than other methods with the equipment seeming foreign in one sense of the word too. Oh, and I don't think it's a dumb question.

 

[username8888]

It doesn't seem common here even though it seems more peaceful than hanging etc. Is it hard to get? Hard to put together? I'm not super crafty which worries me re: exit bags. I'm also paranoid after my SN order got axed. :(

I was gonna ask the same thing. I guess gases take too much effort gather materials than SN.

People are concerned with the complexity, I think it probably feels a little less natural than other methods with the equipment seeming foreign in one sense of the word too. Oh, and I don't think it's a dumb question.

Omg your profile picture triggered me so much. Yes you are right. Death is not a problem, waiting for it is.

 

[DyingToDie123]

I guess gases take too much effort gather materials than SN.

As somebody who's been trying to find SN for the last 24 hours I'm surprised it gets worse (for something legal) lol

 

[username8888]

As somebody who's been trying to find SN for the last 24 hours I'm surprised it gets worse (for something legal) lol

Where are you from? Is it illegal to buy SN in your country?

 

[DyingToDie123]

Where are you from? Is it illegal to buy SN in your country?

US, it's legal but it looks like most dealers (or at least mine) require a business address/proof of purpose.

 

[username8888]

US, it's legal but it looks like most dealers (or at least mine) require a business address/proof of purpose.

Can you buy form other States online? (I really don't know about US)

 

[ABSOLUTION]

I think if there was very little risk of being disturbed I'd consider it.
But, like many gradual methods, the single worst thing that can happen is getting found if you did everything else correctly.
And it's not discreet or portable at all, which is an issue if finding proper isolation is already difficult like it is for me no matter what method I pick.

 

[username8888]

But, like many gradual methods, the single worst thing that can happen is getting found if you did everything else correctly.

It wouldn't be a problem for me since I am not a people person. But yeah for people with families, it would be hard.

 

[リンさん]

Setup is incredibly complex compared to other more common methods, you need a lot of gas in case things go wrong and depending on where you live, it can be very hard to acquire the tanks.

It's also expensive which stops many people who don't have money. It's nearly impossible to hide if you live with other people. There's lots of room for mistake unless you're crafty and familiar with assembling stuff - and even then you can still mess up.

If everything goes right, the method is really peaceful and painless. Just really hard to pull off.

 

[DyingToDie123]

Can you buy form other States online? (I really don't know about US)

Doesn't matter which state you buy it from, the regulations are across the whole US unfortunately :(

I think if there was very little risk of being disturbed I'd consider it.

Luckily I have basically none, I live alone in an apartment with thick walls (former military barracks) so unless someone heard me it'd be unlikely.

And it's not discreet or portable at all

yeah the vendor I found makes me sign off on the package, which isn't the worst thing (actually probably preferable, wouldn't want it left in the lobby), again being solo in an apartment makes that easier and I live close on the same floor as the delivery area.

 

[username8888]

Setup is incredibly complex compared to other more common methods, you need a lot of gas in case things go wrong and depending on where you live, it can be very hard to acquire the tanks.

It's also expensive which stops many people who don't have money. It's nearly impossible to hide if you live with other people. There's lots of room for mistake unless you're crafty and familiar with assembling stuff - and even then you can still mess up.

If everything goes right, the method is really peaceful and painless. Just really hard to pull off.

I guess I would still tackle it than SN. SN would be my second option.

 

[worldwords]

Seems less natural than other methods

 

[DyingToDie123]

Setup is incredibly complex compared to other more common methods, you need a lot of gas in case things go wrong and depending on where you live, it can be very hard to acquire the tanks.

Good point, I'd love something simple like jumping or SN pre-US regulations. Anything that requires brain and coordination seems bad for me lol. I am incompetent

It's also expensive which stops many people who don't have money. It's nearly impossible to hide if you live with other people.

Lucky for me neither are a major issue (I mean I'm broke but I have a credit card that my family can certainly pay off after I ctb)

Really informative, thank you!

Seems less natural than other methods

Depends how you define natural imo. Jumping? Yeah probably. Hanging? Maybe. SN, opioids, any drug OD? Probably less natural imo.
EDIT: Unless you mean detectable when found. Then yeah, not natural at all.

 

[ThisIsLife]

And it's not discreet or portable at all

I beg to differ, i can carry a 5L cylinder in my eastpak

Seems less natural than other methods

There's 78% nitrogen in the air we breathe; the body doesn't even notice when it replaces your oxygen; i find it very natural :)

 

[worldwords]

I beg to differ, i can carry a 5L cylinder in my eastpak



There's 78% nitrogen in the air we breathe; the body doesn't even notice when it replaces your oxygen; i find it very natural :)

With natural I meant a typical way of dying. Using inert gases requires a lot of knowledge, commitment and time

 

[reallysleepy]

Inner gas method is my preffered method and I don't find it that hard (I'm also not crafty). You just need a nitrogen tank (in the inert gas megathread it says the capacity you need), a regulator that can regulate the flow to 15 liters/minute (i understand that you can find one that's used for brewing beer), a small hose connecting the tank to the bag, an exit bag (the pacefull pill handbook explains how to make it and there are also videos) and a chair. You can over do it with a mask (that would need and special connection to the tank), a reclining chair and straps, but the exit bag has been used for a long time by the pph's people without issues.
That whole setup is around 300 us dollars I believe.

 

[MBG]

The R2D Rebreather lll supposedly made nitrogen gas asphyxiation easy and affordable using inexpensive, easy to obtain small N2 canisters.

A couple of people here said they were going to use it and then were never heard from again.

Unfortunately a couple of other people used theirs and missed the bus somehow…. IIRC they ended up using exit bags, not sure if with nitrogen or not.

 

[ClownWorld2023]

I suppose it's not accessible to some people on the forum for various reasons.

 

[HD72]

Doesn't matter which state you buy it from, the regulations are across the whole US unfortunately :(

Luckily I have basically none, I live alone in an apartment with thick walls (former military barracks) so unless someone heard me it'd be unlikely.

yeah the vendor I found makes me sign off on the package, which isn't the worst thing (actually probably preferable, wouldn't want it left in the lobby), again being solo in an apartment makes that easier and I live close on the same floor as the delivery area.

I'm confused can you or can you not buy a gas tank filled and have it sent to your home.

Doesn't matter which state you buy it from, the regulations are across the whole US unfortunately :(

Luckily I have basically none, I live alone in an apartment with thick walls (former military barracks) so unless someone heard me it'd be unlikely.

yeah the vendor I found makes me sign off on the package, which isn't the worst thing (actually probably preferable, wouldn't want it left in the lobby), again being solo in an apartment makes that easier and I live close on the same floor as the delivery area.

What are the regulations? How were you able to buy it?

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yeah- complexity in obtaining all the right equipment I think puts people off. Plus, the visibility and feasibility of ordering, receiving delivery and storing a large gas cylinder. That's enough to put me off. I once learnt welding and our tutor made a big thing about how bad it would be if the argon gas cylinder got knocked over and exploded. Maybe he was exagerating but- it was enough to frighten me.

 

[DyingToDie123]

I'm confused can you or can you not buy a gas tank filled and have it sent to your home.

You can for argon I believe

What are the regulations? How were you able to buy it?

No regulations for argon. Amazon.

 

[GhostShell]

It is the most complex method unless you have the background and already know about the various sizes, gas purity, regulators, sc(u)ba, connectors and everything.

I always question if I did my setup right. Does the exhale valve on my EEBD hood work? Do i need to activate it somehow? Is everything tight enough? Will the hose clamp be good?

These are all questions I ask. That is a ton of uncertainty but at some point you just gotta have faith I guess. EEBD seems a bit less errorprone than the DIY exit bag at least.

And yes it is expensive. 100 for tank, 100 for regulator, 100 for the hood. Now add taxes and shipping and there is a certain minimum budget you need.

Still I find it the best and most reliable painless method from my research.

 

[UKscotty]

I think its more about feeling in control and having a plan.

Ultimately, the vast majority of us will CTB by jumping or a rope, they are just the quickest and most reliable methods.

Things like N, CO, SN, H2S, fentanyl, inert gas etc are probably used a small fraction of the time and we use them more as a method to feel like we are getting some control. Many of us can spend weeks or months on any particular one, then decide its not the right one.

 

[HD72]

Inner gas method is my preffered method and I don't find it that hard (I'm also not crafty). You just need a nitrogen tank (in the inert gas megathread it says the capacity you need), a regulator that can regulate the flow to 15 liters/minute (i understand that you can find one that's used for brewing beer), a small hose connecting the tank to the bag, an exit bag (the pacefull pill handbook explains how to make it and there are also videos) and a chair. You can over do it with a mask (that would need and special connection to the tank), a reclining chair and straps, but the exit bag has been used for a long time by the pph's people without issues.
That whole setup is around 300 us dollars I believe.

For someone who has had brain injuries these things are hard. And people on this site always assume what is easy for them is easy for everyone else. It breaks my heart 10 yrs ago I'd have no issues. Doctors use me as a pill dispenser and now I can barely get up.

 

[Intoxicated]

It is the most complex method unless you have the background and already know about the various sizes, gas purity, regulators, sc(u)ba, connectors and everything.

If you have a good scientific background and critical mindset, you can understand that all those regulators, connectors, etc are unnecessary in the first place. There are different possible strategies of using inert gas asphyxiation, some methods of suicide require only filled gas tank +bag + insulating tape or filled gas tank + rubber balloon + bathtub with water. A lack of education is what pushes many people to consider only popular methods which are not necessarily the most optimal ones.

 

[reallysleepy]

For someone who has had brain injuries these things are hard. And people on this site always assume what is easy for them is easy for everyone else. It breaks my heart 10 yrs ago I'd have no issues. Doctors use me as a pill dispenser and now I can barely get up.

You are right, I'm sorry.

 

[losing hope]

For me I'm a smoker (weed) so doubt I can empty my lungs enough before i have to put the bag over my head.

 

[Antoine_Roquentin]

I was wondering the same thing, comparing to SN it seems that way fewer people are using inert gases here. But I'd disagree that it is a very complex method - at least the simple exit bag isn't. You just need to read a bit and gather some new technical knowledge. In the end you just need a gas cylinder, a regulator, a hose and a bag. Of course, EEBD, Scuba/Scba are a bit more complex. As far as availability goes, it seems to me that the items needed for inert gases are easier to obtain than SN. And the other stuff you need for SN (meto, benzos...) are prescription only in my part of the world.